St. Paul's new pigeon policy: Just fight the poop
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City gives up on control, but its cleanup proposal rankles
By Devin Henry
dhenry@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 09/11/2009 12:00:06 AM CDT
The St. Paul City Council is on the verge of waving the white flag in its fight against the city's pigeon population.
After a series of failed or stalled initiatives aimed at reducing pigeon numbers, an ordinance was introduced at Wednesday's council meeting that would require property owners to clean pigeon droppings from their property.
Many buildings in the city already clean their properties of pigeon poop, Safety and Inspections director Bob Kessler said. But the city would enforce the new ordinance with those that don't, a plan that has raised the ire of some downtown building owners.
Ordinance supporters say this is likely the last measure the city will take against its pigeon problem, following a long line of attempts at curbing the population. A plan to give the birds feed laced with a birth-control chemical proved too costly to enact citywide, Kessler said. Animal-rights groups were opposed to a plan to trap pigeons and send them south for target shooting practice, council member Dave Thune said.
"I think we're just going to throw up our hands and kind of coexist," he said.
But some downtown building owners contend that if the city is to enforce the new ordinance, it shouldn't end its efforts to reduce the population.
John Manillo, chair of the Downtown Building Owners Association, said the city's plan would ignore the bigger issue of the pigeon population, adding that the cleaning of pigeon droppings should still be an owner's priority.
"If you have to clean it up, then you should try to spend some money to prevent it," Manillo said. "It would be nice to control the pigeon poop, but it would be nicer to control the pigeons."
Matt Anfang, president of the Greater St. Paul Building Owners and Managers Association, agreed and said the city's plan will unfairly target property owners downtown, where pigeon waste has been attributed to major issues such as the collapse of the facade on the Alliance Bank parking ramp.
But Thune equated cleaning pigeon droppings to shoveling snow in the winter: a public health issue needing to be resolved by individual property owners.
"For health issues, they ought to be able to clear the sidewalk of pigeon droppings," he said.
Thune said he expects the proposal to pass the council in the next several weeks.
Devin Henry can be reached at 651-288-5480.
Earlier this summer I posted a topic with concern over this issue.
I was seeing what appeared to be numerous healthy pigeons laying dead near the downtown area. I pondered whether they had been poisoned.
There is effective ways of keeping these birds from landing on buildings.
No poison in Saint Paul Bob.
We had been netting them years ago and sending them to Iowa for target practice, but they cut that out.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck, I am not saying the city of Saint Paul poisoned them. I'm not even sure they were poisoned at all.
There is the possibility a building owner is poisoning these pigeons. Would be a very sad thing if these ordinances provoke an owner into this kind of action, since birds of prey eat pigeons.
What the City was trying to do was to put something in grain that would make their eggs not form hard shells and therefore they wouldn't have successful ofspring, but it was to difficult to control their feeding.
The buildings downtown use nets to keep them off, wooden owls to keep them off, spikes on ledges to keep them off and we have falcons downtown to scare the shit out of them.
Its amazing the stupid things you learn while working for a city council member...
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
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Who's idea was it to catch them and send them to be used for target practice, the city's? What a cruel and inhumane thing for a city government to come up with.
Actually,. pigeons from other communities are coming over to St. Paul to shit.
1:13 - what they use to do was allow someone to go to the railroad transfer station with huge nets and baskets of grain and harvest as many pigeons as they could take.
NO charge in either direction.
But people that felt like you found out about it, and then so did the council and the council wouldn't approve it.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
If the controlling city government can't handle the pigeon population or their after math, how do they think they can handle St.Paul four more years.
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