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By GREGORY A. PATTERSON, Star Tribune
Last update: April 20, 2009 - 3:21 PM
St. Paul is initiating a program to give first time home buyers who are public employees and health care workers a $15,000 interest-free loan that can be totally forgiven of the owners stay in their home for longer than 10 years.
Called the "Saint Paul Heroes" program, the loans will be available to those on active duty in the military, veterans, firefighters, police officers, teachers and others, said St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman announcing the program Monday in his annual state of the city address.
Coleman also announced a jobs program that is a partnership between the city's Port Authority, the McKnight and Saint Paul Foundations and Employer Solutions, a non-profit community organization, that aims to train and place 200 people in jobs at Regions Hospital over the next two years.
The city also is partnering with the Saint Paul Ramsey County Workforce Investment Board to develop a jobs training program for health care occupations. Mayor Coleman gave the address at the de Paul Tower, the newest addition to St. Joseph's Hospital that opened last fall.
Most of Coleman's talk was organized around a theme of resurgence. "We are struggling with a historic state budget deficit," Coleman said. "These are excruciating times. Yet I continue to be optimistic about this great city."
Reviewing some of the city's recent accomplishments, Coleman said he was proud the number of vacant structures in the city - about 2000 - did not increase between June 2008 and March 2009.
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Heros my ass. Now the taxpayers are buying homes for the city workers? Looks like socialism and communism are a lot closer than we thought.
"Hey" soon to be Ex St.Paul Mayor Chris Coleman what's pulling off now, some people get forgivable loans and other get shit on by our loving Democrats that run St Paul.
Everyone out here is pointing at Bob Fletcher, but Billy D. and friends are pointing the finger at soon to be the Ex Mayor, and why did you turn in your Law License when you took office as mayor?
White Collar Crime, The Whistle Blower Bill Dahn.
To St. Paul, Ramsey County, and the State of Minnesota
Now you Crooks wear different clothing and Don't use Guns, but you are still Crooks.
Win - Lose or Draw >> this is the election that will bring out all the trash on you in all three fazes of government.
We see how I got no help from these loud mouth politicians, covering the asses of people like Dale Anderson and Ex St.Paul Mayor Jim Schiebel that ran Ramsey Action Program that missed up 200,000 homes in Minnesota and laughed at the poor people that lived in these homes.
Remember one thing, you are just a bunch of small time hoodlum politician's hiding behind the DFL Union.
So I was holding a sign of Uncle Sam giving the finger, Chris Coleman ask why I flipped him the finger?
I told him that it was Uncle Sam and not me.
Over the years of Dave Thune, Norm Coleman and city council "BOY" Chris Coleman denial about substandard work done on a disabled German, Native American Bill Dahn's home with the
1.51 formaldehyde soaked insulation,
If you throw Enough shit at these dirty political crooks, most will stick.
Your arch political rival Billy D.
Bill Dahn for mayor!
Heres Coleman idea of others that lost there homes do to code corruption in St.Paul
Reviewing some of the city's recent accomplishments, Coleman said he was proud the number of vacant structures in the city - about 2000 - did not increase between June 2008 and March 2009.
Billy D. and it not the index finger BOYS.
Bill,
All I can say is "Oh Boy!"
That's a nice comment Billy D
Thune's buddy Repke, he will try to down grade you.
He and the other guy shure wil get yuo for this one.
So I was holding a sign of Uncle Sam giving the finger, Chris Coleman ask why I flipped him the finger?
I told him that it was Uncle Sam and not me.So back on March 11th Bob said:
Bill Dahn attended and presented Mayor Coleman personally with the A Democracy Town Hall invitation.
The Mayor accused Bill of flipping him the bird outside prior to coming in the building for the meeting. Bill said he didn't do this.I didn't believe it, I said:
I'd bet the farm that Bill did do this.Whoa Boy! Bob quickly cam back with:
I think I know Bill better than you Eric and I would know if Bill had been arrested in the last two years. He hasn't! Why are you and Chuck resorting to out right LIES lately?
And why do you think someone should even be arrested for flipping someone the bird? I will answer that for you. You entrenched dflers in city government hate the first amendement. Kill the messenger, hide the truth.So, I'll just sit smugly over here and wait for that apology.
Eric
So I was holding a sign of Uncle Sam giving the finger, Chris Coleman ask why I flipped him the finger?
I told him that it was Uncle Sam and not me.So back on March 11th Bob said:
Bill Dahn attended and presented Mayor Coleman personally with the A Democracy Town Hall invitation.
The Mayor accused Bill of flipping him the bird outside prior to coming in the building for the meeting. Bill said he didn't do this.I didn't believe it, I said:
I'd bet the farm that Bill did do this.Whoa Boy! Bob quickly cam back with:
I think I know Bill better than you Eric and I would know if Bill had been arrested in the last two years. He hasn't! Why are you and Chuck resorting to out right LIES lately?
And why do you think someone should even be arrested for flipping someone the bird? I will answer that for you. You entrenched dflers in city government hate the first amendement. Kill the messenger, hide the truth.So, I'll just sit smugly over here and wait for that apology.
Eric
Why not start buying people houses. When they buy the house they control where you live. They'll control every other aspect of your life too when they control all the money through taxation.
And don't get too fond of those damn guns, they'll be comin for em in the future.
Now that they've been cleansing the city, it's high time they bring in the Master Race.
I bet they will have a lot of money for Mr. Magner and his friends.
The number of vacant properties have not increased.
The population has increased.
There has not been a reduction in minority renters.
Most RICO landlords admitted in court that there was no clear attempt to go after their minority tenants.
They lost the case because after all of these years and accusations, RICO landlords could not show a pattern in court. The only thing they consistently were able to show is they didn't keep their properties up.
That's why the case was dismissed.
Of course on A-Democracy truth and reality takes a backseat to rumor and accusation.
Eric
So, a month and a half ago when Bob wrote that the mayor accused Bill of flipping him the bird and I said it sounds like something Bill would do, I was right.
Bob and the usual band of losers tore after me about how Bill is not like that and they believe him.
Finally we see that Bill used a sign to flip the mayor the bird.
Classy.
Eric
So it appears the MAYOR and Bill have a history of flipping each other the bird. Maybe they both should grow up!
Oh and Eric, Bill hasn't been arrested in the last 2 years. I done a background check on Bill.
Doesn't look like your DFL endorsed candidate has a chance in hell of being elected again Eric.
rmroeser
this is stupid,what about the other people that live in your city.dont they deserve a deal on a house?same old dirty politics.who is going to pay for it coleman hell no he wont.the other people that cant get it will end up paying for it,dont seem right.
posted by rmroeser on Apr. 20, 09 at 3:41 PM |
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What a joke Coleman is
All he wants to do is lock in the union vote.
posted by tipster on Apr. 20, 09 at 3:48 PM |
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Yes this is wrong
What about the baker who makes the bread you eat daily to live, or the butcher who puts meat on the menu? Don't they help us as much?
posted by callmemiddle on Apr. 20, 09 at 3:51 PM |
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Seriously?
This has got to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. Why is our local government paying people to buy homes? I'm sorry, but just because you work for the city, it doesn't make you a hero, and just because you're a "hero" doesn't mean you deserve $15,000 from the city of St. Paul.
posted by josiah88 on Apr. 20, 09 at 3:56 PM |
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Heroes, But?
Many of these government workers are probably great people, but this can also be seen as pandering to the political base on which Coleman relies. In general, government workers have not been affected as much by the recession as those in the private sector, and they continue to enjoy good insurance and other benefits that most of us dream about.
posted by eman2002 on Apr. 20, 09 at 3:56 PM |
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WTF??? Whose money is Mayor Coleman giving away??
St. Paul is already begging for more LGA-state aid and this guy is giving away money???? VOTE COLEMAN OUT OF OFFICE FOR GOOD!
posted by nojustice on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:07 PM |
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WTF??? Whose money is Mayor Coleman giving away??
St. Paul is already begging for more LGA-state aid and this guy is giving away money???? VOTE COLEMAN OUT OF OFFICE FOR GOOD!
posted by nojustice on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:07 PM |
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I guess St. Paul Mayor Coleman thinks he will get the money back ...
when he has to raise property taxes through the roof to make up for the LGA-state aid that has to be cut....slimey....
posted by nojustice on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:08 PM |
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From builderoneline.com: "It's (for) that everyday hero -- it's that teacher, it's that firefighter," said Council Member Lee Helgen during Wednesday's meeting of the HRA. "Somebody who's going to care about the community."
posted by jsdlminn on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:22 PM |
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That should be builderonline.com. The federal program is called "Take Credit." Why not stick with that rather than add to the devaluing of the word hero? Anyone can be a hero, and your job title doesn't automatically make you one.
posted by jsdlminn on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:29 PM |
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More Welfare
I might consider help to active combat military vets as a possibilty. As if the police and fire do not get paid enough already. These people already have above average incomes for the area and can well afford to buy homes. These are not volunteer jobs. Why do taxpayers need to hand them another welfare check. The term hero is getting far to overused. these are jobs. The modern definition should be as follows: Hero - Someone who gets paid to do what a decent person would do for free.
posted by maddawg on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:38 PM |
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smacks of racism
every hard working family should be called heroes, not just those who kill others for a living or a select few; that's communism.
posted by larrymease on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:38 PM |
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I Want to be a Hero Too!
The story reads: City employees, and health care workers. $15,000 that can be forgiven in 10 years; not bad coupled with benefits, pensions, and nearly as many days off as school teachers, and you have a pretty good gig going. Poor me being self employed, trying to feed the world instead.
posted by herdboar on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:45 PM |
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Union Suck up
Nothing more then paying off AFSCME and Education MN. TPaw better cut St Paul's LGA grant even more if they've got this kind of money to throw around.
posted by mnrob32 on Apr. 20, 09 at 4:59 PM |
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How can city/public workers be heroes ????
Most of them are just union lackeys with no work ethic and no ambition ....... According to Coleman, a person who is corrupt, overpaid and has no ambition is a hero ......
posted by tomar on Apr. 20, 09 at 5:02 PM |
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St Paul's pandering mayor!
Heck of a nerve to announce this and beg for state money Mayor Coleman! This dam guy wants to be Governor????
posted by nojustice on Apr. 20, 09 at 5:19 PM |
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HEROES ????????????????????
Let's see now ........... You are a hero if you are a public employee, are overpaid, are underworked, and lack enough backbone that you need a union to represent you ...... But a Coleman does not consider a hero to be someone who has their own business, works 60+ hours per week to support his family, pays a substantial amount of taxes, and pays the wages of these union loafers............. Coleman obviously does not live in the real world ...... A Public official who has freeloaded off the government for all of his working years ......
posted by tomar on Apr. 20, 09 at 5:28 PM |
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favors
Glad my taxes are going to further fund the easy lifestyles of all of St Paul's union workers. thanks mayor. jerk.
posted by highlandguy on Apr. 20, 09 at 5:45 PM |
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Must be nice......
Gee.....it must be nice to be "handed" 15,000.00 that can be totally "forgiven".....I work my a-- off EVERYDAY and will probably never be able to own my own home for lack of "funding". I used to work as a registrar in an ER at a hospital in downtown St. Paul (which shall remain nameless....). Everyday I would bust my butt...sometimes for 12+ hours a night. We would have people waiting to go back to a room for hours while the "unionized" nurses did NOTHING but chat it up with the paramedics, read magazines, have long personal phone conversations and provide what I like to call "second rate care".....pure laziness....please explain to me "why" these "health care workers" should be considered "hereos"? A "hero" is going above AND beyond your call of duty.....who's funding these loans anyway? There are litterally THOUSANDS of "public service" workers in St. paul.....are these "loans" going to be given to anyone that wants it? Shouldn't there be some type of criteria to be eligible for them? I applaud the Mayor and the City of St. Paul for trying to create more jobs and "affordable" housing, however, this is NOT the way to do it.....
posted by jen911782 on Apr. 20, 09 at 6:57 PM |
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I like this article
its a great idea rewarding heros!! But all this article listed was public sector employees! They aren't heros they is just annoying. And they already get paid enough. Can you imagine the silliness of calling those annoying TEACHERS heros? doesn't anyone remember SCHOOL and how bothersome and MEAN teachers are? Or the cop handing out PARKING TICKETS? I mean, come on, military veterens (of which I am one by the way) heros? They are getting PAID for the jobs they do they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. And they already get mighty fine bonuses too!! Who are the others mentioned? It said and others.
posted by jmuielewicz on Apr. 20, 09 at 8:08 PM |
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Settle Down Folks
Did any of you bother to actually find out more specific details on this program? Probably not, so here they are: This program will ONLY cover 33 people. They must be first time home-buyers, they must meet income limitations, and there will be limitations on houses purchased under this program. Also, this is NOT for any public worker. This is specifically for vetrans, firefighters, police, teachers and health care workers. The people who put their lives on the line for us, the people who work to save our lives, and the people who help our kids prepare for the future. Lady who used to work as a registrar at an ER, you probably would be able to apply under this program. NOWHERE did coleman say this is for union people only. And the implication that ALL union people are lazy, corrupt and over paid is frankly extremely offensive. And this is NOT the only housing assitance program. There is a big new federal program coming soon. There are neighborhood programs, there are state programs. If you don't qualify for any of them, then you make enough to afford a house on your own, and shut up and quit your bitching
posted by Spideyo on Apr. 20, 09 at 8:12 PM |
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@Spideyo
They're all already paid for the work they do. You act like they're all volunteering.
posted by ebrandel on Apr. 20, 09 at 8:47 PM |
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Get used to it!
They are not heros. They are the elite and the rest of us are servants and our new responsibility in life is to sustain these government people. It's going to get worse and at the end, you will all be living in communism. You will have what you voted for.
posted by nichole1957 on Apr. 20, 09 at 10:33 PM |
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My is my tax money
being used to buy someone a house that I can't afford?
posted by Mooja on Apr. 20, 09 at 11:05 PM |
Yes Eric
I was out side holding the signs one was Sitting Bull with the words on top said.
SURE YOU CAN TRUST THE GOVERNMENT
JUST ASK AN INDIAN.
AND THE OTHER SIGN WAS OUR UNCLE SAM WITH HIS FINGER UP SAYING
To Those "Responsible"
We're Coming For "You".
Thats a good 9/11/2001 SIGN.
and as Chris and I was walking in together talking he said Bill You flipped in the finger, and I told him no not me it was Uncle Sam.
He knew I didn't flip him off. he was surely joking and I always have the two sign when I attend the city council meeting and no one EVER said I "flipping or giving some one the finger.
I wouldn't give the finger.
If I wanted a laugh from someone, I would just say that I'm pointing the finger at "you " and its not the index finger.
So if a sign offend ya?
Pluck it out.
Now you two cent democrat that feels tour better then others because ya kiss up to people like Chris and Dave Thune.
You don't know the whole story and you want people to think you do.
No one can say that I didn't tell the truth about my home from day 1 in September 1995, even people like Chuck, Jesse, and Dean Barkly all told the story of Bill Dahn's house.
My house caused more trouble for our government then any person could.
9/1995 till 9/11/2001 I was fighting government about my home.
Yes Eric I lost my home by using every penny I evry had calling Washington and wait till the recording are used from DOE Washington DC.
More people will vote for me just because of you bad mouthing Me and Bob, there are to many Democrats that don't like being told how or who to vote for.
Billy D. For St. Paul Mayor
If you take your ques from anonymous postings on the city paper's site, then I understand why you may be out of touch with the people of Saint Paul.
I have yet to read an open comment section anywhere that isn't negative. 99% of those people don't live in the city- or the real world. I stop going to the comment section after posting here. I get all of the crazy ignorance I can handle here.
Bob,
I'll give you the Broadway Joe Namath guarantee that Chris Coleman will be re-elected Mayor of St Paul with more than 60% of the vote.
Eric
More people will vote for me just because of you bad mouthing Me and Bob, there are to many Democrats that don't like being told how or who to vote for.Bill, nobody is going to vote for yet again. Let's be honest here, you're lucky you're allowed to run in your condition. Why don't you spend all of this time getting help?
You lost your house Bill because you fucked up. Nobody forced you to do anything. You then lost credibility by trying to make an illegal campaign deal with Jesse Ventura because he was going to pay for your lawyer and filing fees. That's a crime a Bill and if you mattered at all to anyone or anything, you would have been arrested.
You brought this upon yourself by looking for a handout. Just like the landlords (according to their own testimony)brought code enforcement down on themselves.
What has happened is that those with money know that if they toss a few dollars toward Bob, which they do, they can keep a forum going where people who may have legit complaints, can join in with those who got burnt trying to game the system. It gives a little credibility to the overall complaint.
Bill, you're a chump. You're being used like the little yapping dog you are. Bob, you're being used and you know it. That's pretty bad.
You read the same records I did. You know some of these landlords are full of shit. You refuse to separate them from the pack because they are paying your bills.
Pitiful.
Eric
just the facts jack.
the law lic.?
Bill's a chump, landlords are swine and Bob's on someone's payroll! That pretty much dismisses anything credible here I'd say. What's left to talk about? Insulation?
First 9:52 - it isn't unusual for full time elected officials to let their law license go because of the continuing education requirement. The Mayor would have to take off work of being mayor and go to classes to meet the requirement. So, legislator that are out of session most of the year take the classes then and keep their license, most Mayors that are full-time Mayors let the license go.
As to the "heroes" program its a $15K loan that you have to pay back if you move in ten years. Its a grant if you stay. The Mayor is trying to get people buying again and City workers and our returning Vets would be good buyers.
So, if you know a Vet that might want to live in Saint Paul as a first time home buyer, the City will cough up $15K as a forgivable second mortgage. If the house is in 55106 I have $8K from the Pohlad Foundation that can go towards the house and then the Fed's will give you $8K back as a tax credit.
So, if you know someone that wants to buy a house in 55106 for lets say $150K we can knock $31K off of the bottom line!
Have them call me!
Its huge.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
just the facts jack.
the law lic.?Why didn't you ask your resident legal know it all Jeff about this?
You people on this site are the nuttiest bunch of know-nothings. How do you make it through life so ignorant?
Attorneys have to take continuing legal education classes throughout their career, or CLE's. Most association they belong offer them (Bar Association, Trial Lawyers, Defense Lawyers etc). They also have to pay a fee.
If they are not practicing law, they let their license lapse. Most attorneys who do other things like run non-profits, run major firms or run for Office, allow their license to lapse.
Some attorneys, like Chris, go into another field where having a law degree is interesting but the actuality of going into the courtroom is zero. That's what Chris did after he ran for Congress. He went to work for an investment firm in 2000.
According to the Minnesota Courts, Christopher B. Coleman VOLUNTARILY suspended his authorization by not paying his fees. Yes, it says VOLUNTARILY.
You know who else is not authorized to practice law here? A guy from Eagan named Tim Pawlenty.
You know who else is not authorized? An umemployed guy named Norm Coleman. Now, he may want to look into getting his back in play.
Eric
How about Nancy Lazaryan?
Hey Chuck, does that mean that those who get the loan, won't get a visit from code ?
Knock off $31'000.00 from the bottom line and add $25'000.00 in code work orders.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
10:29 AM
Yes Chuck more of you Bull Shit, just like you stick up for Norm Coleman when you were at my home in 1996.
Every time Eric and you are always sticking up for someone on the DFL Party.
I am going to start putting all these voice messages from these Democrats that left messages know about the air quality in my home and what it was doing to my health.
Did I say how much I think OBAMA stinks like all politicians, My idea of unions is that if they was no unions, people would be making $2.00 a hour and "NO" fringe benefits.
I do not think they or anyone has a right to know how you vote, at that point Hitler has returned as the TEAMSTERS.
I think Bill Clinton was the best President we had in my life time, he even knew the best place to get a blow job. and a 'blow job" is sex.
I will win or the Democratic Party will cry uncle.
Billy D.
.
So if he is mentally disturbed, why does everyone encourage him? Why not try to get him too do something productive instead of run for office.
Is he the only one from the group that will run, or are you putting him up as some kind of joke?
This is like high school. You know he is mentally disturbed and you just push him because he'll say something that will make you laugh.
Shame on all of you.
Hey what gives?
I was asking a real question and it gets deleted?
Who the hell deleted my posting?
Ask your question at the Union hall
Slandering Bill Dahn isn't stopping him.
Why not try your old tactics and have some of St.Paul's finest fuck with him again . ( St. Paul's Police )
By not singing your comment shows the people that either St.Paul is and was hiding something or Bill was right from the beginning?
Bill's web page tell it all www.billdahn.com.
The movie of Jesse Ventura and Dean Barkley at Bill's home in 1998 pulling a illegal stunt, and the litter sent to Dean Barkley from Ramsey Action Program saying there was sewer gases in the home.
That alone show that St.Paul pulls things that should be investigated by the FBI, or all government has their hands in the same cookie jar.
Like Bill or not he has the facts on either paper, video's, or voice recordings.
Like it or not Bill was right about St.Paul's Government being all dikes and queers, and a straight women has no place in this state.
I'm just one of Bill's friends.
Mary V.
Inver Grove Heights
More of the finest this website has to offer I see.
How many of you took the time to listen to the Budget Hearing this morning, HRA targeting East Side re: 901 Conway, then City Agenda creating an Ordinance to Steal your propertys Bait and Switch triggering Anti Trust,
Thanks to Bill Dahn for having the guts to speak out O buy thge way Thune is the Author of "taking" realestate without paying for it
http://sicko-citystpaul.blogspot.com
Thank God Bill Dahn has been my buddy for over 10 yrs now, Please view the YouTubes forensic evidence, leaving for a Wake for now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHDA7twqjW4
We're going for Money Damages against the city
Maybe instead of being the "St Paul Heroes Program" they should call it the "St Paul DipShits Program".
what white collar crime is Thune, Lantry and the other council members up to now.
Condemn homes and then buy & sell, where does all the money come from and where does it go.
http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/CivicAlerts.asp?AID=451
The Saint Paul Heroes First-time Home Buyers Loan Program was created to honor those who dedicate their lives to serving the community by providing a loan up to $15,000 to purchase a home in Saint Paul in conjunction with the Take Credit!! Mortgage Certificate Program.
[Additional info...] DSI,Cops and Sheriffs bleeding the poor Homeowner to steal propertys for pecuniary gain. Hero's??? While many Veterans are HOMELESS
even tho qualified. www.cityliving.org
Can I also open a savings account with the city ?
Aims to train and place 200 people in jobs at St.Paul Regions ?
Doesn't Regions have it's own Human Resources Department that does the hiring ?
St.Paul already ruined its property tax base with the common citizens, so now it is kissing up to the only people left with any money ( teachers and city employees ).
Oh, firefighters and police ?
This loan plan to police and fire fighters seems to conflict with Colemans plan to lay them off because of the city budget.
I suppose Coleman thinks he is still going to be around in ten years to see if his misappropriation of public funds has payed off ?
Coleman is trying to get re-elected and surely this is part of his overall Scheme to harness favorable public opinion.
When are all the job cuts coming Coleman ?
Or was that just tough talk so you could coerce the legislature to send you that LGA money youv'e been whining about.
We see right through you Coleman and your on your way out !
Jeff Matiatos
Its like coming to a fun house to read the stuff here. Up is down, black is white, good is evil.
On the houses being condemned to be given to developers, so that someone makes money. Please, please, please, show me which one.
Bob has had this list going for years now. You all have been tracking properties. There has been the RICO case.... give me some freaking addresses!!!
You guys create a great story in your minds to do these things and share them and add on to them but they just flat out never happened the way you tell them.
Has the city condemned houses for code issues yes. Have some of those houses gone back to the bank yes. Have any of those houses been redeveloped by the City? Don't know, still waiting on you guys to even show one of them.
There are thousands of vacant buildings now and they have become vacant and on the City's list not because code went after them, but because the owners quit paying the mortgage and the heat and the water. Have some of them been redeveloped? Sure. Is the City acquiring some of those lots? Of course.
But 2 plus 2 doesn't equal 22 folks.
Global warming is not caused be the lack of pirates in the Caribbean since the start of the twentieth century.
And Sharon I am sure the City lost money buy towing away your dead van.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Hey Repke my 1991 Chrysler was in perfect shape, check out YouTube Boy, The city will lose more money by their "takings" re Thune and Lantrys Larceny Go o my Face Book, Twitter, Repke are you afraid to show your FACE? or is it because you and Thune have such POT BELLYS for men of your ages?
Sorry to get personal,
4 Morality Marry your Lawyer, why live in SIN
Scrool to the cop corruption http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1516152589&ref=name
Jeff continues to prove that being stunningly ignorant has not gone completely out of style.
If Jeff could look anything up or read the news, he'd know that down payment assistance from the city government is not out of line or - misappropriation of funds. That's a term that means its illegal and even a dolt like Jeff knows its not illegal.
Many cities across the country offer incentives to buy within city limits or certain neighborhoods. For cops and fireman, there has been some type of program like this across the board since residence requirements were being repealed across the country in the 1980's. It extended to city employees and why not? If you work, live, shop, and raise your family in the city, your more likely to have ties that improve the quality of life.
Before I give Jeff a list to look of cities, counties and states that offer these kinds of programs, he should know that the Federal Government offers it to first time homebuyers- ANYWHERE in the country.
Some cities that I found with additional programs that offer down payment assistance are:
Parma CA
Ventura CA
The entire state of Virginia
The entire state of Florida
The entire state of Washington
Baltimore, MD
Simi Valley, CA
The entire state of Arizona
The entire state of Ohio
Minneapolis, MN
Johnson County Kansas
The entire Kansas City Mo/Ks metro
Springfield Oregon
Houston, Tx
Austin, Tx
St. Louis, Mo
Ogden, Ut
Medford, Or
Cambridge, MA
Madison, WI
Milwaukee, Wi
Chicago, Il
Los Angeles, CA
Oklahoma City, OK
Broomfield, Co (city and county)
New York City, NY
Atlanta, GA
DeKalb County, GA
Demver, CO
Boulder, Co
Colorado City, CO
Aurora, Co
Fullerton Ca
Fargo, ND
Souix Falls, SD
So, which one are you going to file citizens complaint against Jeff?
Eric
Sharon - you're mean. I have lost 50 pounds since I quit working at City Hall in 1997. And kept it off. Six foot one and 205 I'll have you know!
Chuck
Latest WatchDog Issue Vacant Bldgs have not gone away. Wheels of Justice turn slow, with all of Thune and Lantrys Grease
http://www.watchdog-news.com/WD62-09Red.pdf
Down payment assistance my ass.
Police and firefighters( most of them )who work for St.Paul don't want to live here.
Hence this is in part why it's being offered.
It may not be uncommon for cities to offer this type of incentive, but where does the money come from ? Tax payors of course.
We all believe that tax revenue is intended to provide for public services, not a slush fund for city employees.
You want a loan for your home, go to your local bank or financial institution.
Help the banks Coleman, don't take business from them. ( LAUGH ).
Just what would the $15'000.00 be used for ?
I know, to take care of some code issues right ?
What kind of loopholes would this loan have ?
St.Paul needs to be fair by offering this loan to any person who wants to live here, not just city employees.
Again, a PR stunt by Coleman and a desperation lunge to help bolster public opinion in time for re-election.
Eric, it doesn't take even an ignorant person to look things up on the web to become informed.
Your problem is that you do it all the time and now we understand the extent of just how dumb you really are when all the information and things you know come off the web.
Jeff Matiatos
Man, do city cops and firefighters get paid that little that they need to beg the city for money ?
Jeff,
the money does come from bank you blank slate. The city backs it up.
The federal government also does the same.
You made the premise that it was a misappropriation without checking your 'facts'. Facts show that this type of program has worked in other cities, suburbs, small towns and counties. It is supported by conservative and liberal lawmakers both local and federal.
You're not an idiot because you have a low iq or something, you're one because you're lazy. You are one loudmouth lazy SOB. Yet, you're the same one to go out and rally about immigration and taxes.
You don't work. You don't pay taxes. You take from the government. What the hell are you complaining about taxes for? Do you even own a home?
Eric
Check your facts Eric, I do work and I own 18 acres of property.
Where I work and what I do is non of your business.
Good luck trying to check your facts !
9:58 I have lost 50 pounds since I quit working at City Hall in 1997. And kept it off. Six foot one and 205 I'll have you know!
Chuck
That's great Chuck, I am very proud of you for that.
I wouldn't even recognize you, but I glad that you in good health.
That helps in our lives , now you must have the energy you had back at Humboldt.
You treated me nice while you was at my home, you must see why no one want me talking about my home.
It was all so nice of St.Paul telling me to shut up or I would be put in Anoka.
I just went down and signed up for governor, Dean Barkley and Jesse helped get my home in the news.
My web sit is up and running at its best,
>> www.billdahn.com <<
just so people with MAC or a PC can watch the Jesse Ventura Video, and in a few days the video will be up on U-TUBE.
The Good Old Days are back.
It was 85 today and I hope everyone had the opportunity to enjoy it.
Billy D.
Jeff,
Your parents property outside of Circle Pines don't count. Its not yours.
You talk so much you forget what you say on here.
You live in an apartment on or near Ashland- according to you.
You don't work because you're working on some patent. According to you.
You got some kind of semi-custody of your kids, According to you.
You have problems with people of other races and jews, according to you.
I, or any of us, wouldn't know any of this without you telling us.
So we know you bitch about taxes, yet pay none. You went to court and won custody but don't have the moxie to get a job to take care of the kids you fought for. Yet you bitch about illegal immigrants taking jobs- you're giving them away.
You're also a terrible liar and a phony.
Now here's where we are, you can come back with some smart ass remark and I'll just copy and paste your own words and insult you some more.
Go away Loser.
Eric
Look who's talking.
The sentiment against your kind goes back thousands of years.
Looks like your in company with alot more adverse sentiment than of those that would oppose my views.
If you and I were around back in the days of slavery, I would probably have used you as a slave.
It was acceptable back in those days when people like Jefferson owned slaves.
(Because its a slow Friday)
Look who's talking.
The sentiment against your kind goes back thousands of years.So what? Every group has had their trials and tribulations over the years. What is relevant about this statement to anything?
Looks like your in company with alot more adverse sentiment than of those that would oppose my views.That sentence makes no sense but we know what you meant.
"You're" instead of 'your' for starters.
It appears you're reaffirming my point that your cowardly views are welcome among these readers and par for the course around here. Congrats.
If you and I were around back in the days of slavery, I would probably have used you as a slave.Wrong.
First, you're a lazy piece of trash and more likely would have been an indentured servant at that time. We certainly know you wouldn't have been self sufficient enough to have enough wealth and land to own slaves.
Second, you may have a point that in order for a guy like you to be better than a guy like me, you'd have to go back to period where skin color strongly dictated ones destiny. You just had to be born one or the other.
However, you also confirm that in a society where you have to compete to be successful of even content, you fail. You need a society that project liberty and freedom on some, and enslavement and chains for others. Your ideal world.
You're uneducated, unemployed, lazy, ignorant and a bigot. I'm glad you realize in today's world, we have little use for you. Go shoot yourself.
It was acceptable back in those days when people like Jefferson owned slaves.Well, them days ain't coming back Dixie. However, if you take about 50 sleeping pills, you can go and live in those times forever. You may be disappointed find out that Jefferson had no use for your ilk. He was harsh on ignorance. Of course you didn't know that or even think of that.
So typical.
Eric
The 9:38 AM loser really needs to take a long look in the mirror and get a life before writing and reacting in such a poor manner.
9:38 AM you have more then proved yourself to be a complete loser and should be ashamed of yourself and your choice of words to Eric!
Nancy O.
Hey Bob, I thought you deleted words like nigger ?
You mustr have a good reason for leaving it there.
Some of us are not to happy that you delete our other posts, but then you wont delete this word ?
Go figure.
Thanks Nancy and Bob.
I sent Bob an email asking him to leave it up.
It reflects on the character of the author.
Eric
Nancy O is one of those if ya can't beat em, join em people.
She got beat with her no pot to piss in bitch about someone booting her out and stealing her shit. She posts here every once in awhile when someone else is getting ripped on so she can be part of the bigger picture.
Eric, it looks like nobody really cares about this guys character.
At least as far as your concerned.
But, we know where Bob stands.
3:43 you are right I did get booted out of my home, bitched about it and felt I was treated unfairly....but guess what, I have moved on in life and am doing quite well.
I do read here frequently but you are correct I do not write here much due to ignorant people like you. And yes I guess you might be right that I do have the attitude "if you can't beat em join em" that might explain my strong interest in studying criminal law.
Oh...and as for wanting to be part of the bigger picture... I am who I am and your approval is not needed or wanted. I speak up when I feel like it and if you notice I also sign my name to my comments versus hiding behind my computer ramaining anonymous like you and many others do.
Nancy O.
Thanks Nancy,
You've had quite an experience with abusive code enforcement. You are appreciated by those who are genuinely concerned about the people of St. Paul. There is a real need to correct the excesses and politicization of code enforcement.
Nancy O.
We are who we are, because we are not bowing down to the city government.
We all watched the code people who made it hard for Nancy after investing all the money to up-grade her home to comply to code and then they condemned it and then tour it down on her.
But the code people were cleaning out her new supplies in the garage, the three had their red pick-up and putting the stuff in it from the garage as we pulled up in the alley.
I said all this before about the thieve in Nancy O's. garage, like at the time many people checked the house out and seen that each person raved about how nice it was.
CH.5 New Lady Cindy B. said the house was held up with a hydraulic jack, we all seen it was a screw jack, and Nancy was just screwed by the city and the crooked code people.
Now the city council is involved in buying and selling these home, and calling it a HUD organized program.
Taking of peoples homes and property has became a big white collar crime in city government, until it happened to you, you will be blind to the real corruption in this city.
We all thank you Nancy, your place gathered people together to fight for our own rights at A Democracy
Billy D. Your Next Mayor
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Nancy+Osterman+MN&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
Nancy Thanks for the records
WTF Sharon?!?
Bob remove her post. if Nancy wanted people to have her personal info- she'd give it to them.
This is not Sharon's first time providing this kind of spam. Its time to give her a break.
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