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17 Comments:
How Bout that.. Some people should have kept their mouth shut I guess their statements have become exhibits in The Racketeering suits.
I wonder how many more of these there are. :-)
Posted 20 Feb 2006 19:56 by caty royce
There is a huge obstacle to unifrom insepctions of all rental units and that is
the problem of two departments. Many times over the years there has been tal
of merging the fire department's inspections unit, which does the c of o
program and does it well and the code enforcement unit. It has always
stalled and failed, why, I'm not sure.
As it stated in a post not long ago, the community stabilization suggested
regular inspections of singel family and duplex properties years ago, in fact
we were calling norm, mayor elect at a public meeting where we made the
suggestion. To no avail. The reason norm gave back in the day was it would be
too expensive. I am sure we will hear the same today, more than a decade
later.
caty royce, selby avenue, south minneapolis
Posted 20 Feb 2006 21:21 by Dave Thune
I'll give you the short version.
1. Homestead - Pulled permit and reroofed this summer and fall; shorter
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structure with historic cedar shingles. Went thru the HPC process. Home
was built in pre Civil War era and is constantly being repaired and
restored. Rear railings removed to accomodate roofing. Squirrels and
racoons (wildlife) have damaged eaves. We'll be doing that this spring.
Needed to do the the roof first.
2. Relative homestead - residence of my elderly father. Paint is well
within standards. Tarp in back was to cover lawnmower from snow.
Interior railing on porch was just removed to install electric stairway.
3. Commercial property - Inspected every year for c of o. Permits pulled
for roofwork and garage. Garage does need to be finished this spring.
Stove in rear was replaced by new one and awaits removal to transfer
station. Foliage near stove is a limestone wall with beautiful summer
garden. Brown stuff is what we call plants waiting for spring. Front
door is being replaced due to recent break-in. Trim had to come off to
reframe door.
My point: Everyone with property knows it is a constant struggle to keep
ahead of weathering and repairs. Historic properties have even more
hurdles. Good landlords do replace older stoves, roofs, etc. as I do.
Am I a perfect homeowner, son or landlord. Of course not.
Do I constantly perform work on my older properties? absolutely.
This construction season you'll see most of the referenced stuff done
and another 12 things ready for doing. Other good landlords and
neighbors do the same.
dave
>>> "GLORIA E BOGEN" 02/20/06 5:30 PM >>:
Mr. Ciani - do you own any properties? Would you give me the
address(es) so that I can visit your property? Because if you do have
property, I am sure you would not mind at all to have pictures posted
here - Your property must be in perfect shape. (Since you have "cast
the first stone".)
Gloria Bogen
GeblOlS-1 ( at ) msn.com~mailto:Gebl018~(1 a t ) msn.com>
West Side = Best Side
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ciani mailto:city-watchman ( at ) yahoo.com
To: SPIF
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: [SPIF] City Of St Paul Code Enforcement-- Double Standard??
See Pictures--You Decide!!
What is the motive of The City Of St Paul?? What frustrates me is
that only a certain group of people are being targeted with exsessive
code enforcement. Whe have many City Officials and Un-informed
residents that preach about how The City Of St Paul should be cleaned up
and support the Vague and Unfair enforcement. What I found is that many
proponents of this process are some of our Biggest Violators!!!!
Click on my photo-site and you will see what I mean:
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Frank Steinhauser
From: "Dave Thune" ~Dave.Thune@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
To: cst~aulissues@forums.edemocracv.ora~~:I TICS. W-.O D~@V~~~OmOitc.hC. ~Obe~ra>@: vahoo.com>
Sent: ~hursday~. eb6ary16 ,2006 10:11 h -
Subject: Re: [SPIF] Alternatives for problem property enforcement
If you look at last night's council public hearing agenda you'll see the
enormous number of orders to clean up property. These are property
owners who have finally had their property abated by the city. Of course
the vast majority of orders never even make it to a hearing. They get
cleaned up by the owner.
This will give you an idea of the magnitude - and of course to the
negative impact on adjacent property owners, who are relieved that their
neighbors' trash has gone away.
When an order or assessment for work done is appealed by the owner it
goes to a hearing officer. That in turn can be appealed to the city
council and that result can be appealed to the courts.
These checks and balances mean that there are numerous ways to challenge
an inspector's judgement beyond simply complying by cleaning up or
pulling a permit to do the work.
I would suggest that the problem doesn't lie in the system, it is with
some owners who can't seem to get what 99.99% of the rest of the
citizens of st. paul do: Be respectful of your neighbors and give a
care about the people who who live in their properties.
dave
>>> M Charles Swope h oo om> 02/16/06 9:s 1 AM >>>
Is the city council the best place to place the
decision as to whether to issue a demolition order? A
political body like the council may not be the best
place to go to for an impartial, fact-based decision
uninfluenced by political concerns. I'd suggest that
this type of decision belongs in the hands of an
impartial judiciay.
If a court, after a hearing involving all parties, had
issued this demolition order, I doubt that it would
have generated the controversy the council's decision
did.
So, perhaps it's time to take the lessons of this case
and consider changing the code to provide for a
fairer, more transparent procedure for demolition
orders.
And, BTW, I still haven't gotten any explanation of
Good one Bob.
Again you show the way they do thing in the city of St.Paul.
Don't underestimate them though, they are very smooth and slick. They can talk their way out of just about anything and put ideas into your head that aren't even true. Which is why they either work for, are an official of, or seek furtherance in the city.
It makes one head spin watching them in action to the point of puking. Not a good thing to have to see constantly! Well, if you'll excuse me the room is spinning and I have to go puke.
They're jsut talking and getting people included in the process. I thought that was what E Dem was all about was getting everyone involved in the process. Now when someone wants to get the City Council involved in a "process" they don't want to because they know they have to tell the truth, and they probably can't!
Does anyone know this Magner guy? I've heard from a lot of people he's dirty and has a good friend who is the biggest vacant home buyer in the city. Sounds like a conflict of interest.
HEY, I JUST NOTICED BOB HAS BUCKY'S HOUSE PHOTOS LINKED IN THE TITLE OF THIS POST.
HI ALL,
I almost forgot about little bob. I believe little bob is an entrenched SPIFer here at A Democracy and I told him I would dedicate this post to him for his efforts here.
Sorry I forgot about you little bob. This post is for you..
Thank little Bob SPIFers..
Caty Royce is another HOG at the troft. Come tell us why you want the inspection of single and duplex rentals Caty. How would this benifit your Non-Profit?
Bob, I noticed Caty mentioned C of O here, can you eloberate your opinion of the new policies the City Coumcil wants to implement concerning C of O?
9:49, i agree with mr. Swope. the council has no business making these decesions. They have put ustax payers at risk for their liability.
I was just sitting here listening to Nazareth "Hair of Dog".:-)
I thought of Councilman Helgen. Remember that post I made at Saint Paul Issues and Forums "Bad News 14 E.Jessamine Demolished".
Then Councilman Helgen comes out with "Good News 14 E. Jessamine Demolished".. Wow, I hope that one is an exhibit.. I'd like to be watching the juries face on that one.
That really upset me enlight of all the horrible stuff getting exposed by myself and others concerning Nancy's house.
Nancy's home ignited a revolution of sorts. It made me and many others look at multiple stories concerning this issue. And it has sadden me what I have learned, discovering friends of mine have become victims of a renegade few.One victim after another.
People are going to be held accountable.
"People are going to be held accountable."
Anyone who posts here ever wonder why landlords claim poverty and that keeping the houses in a respectable condition is too expensive, while Sec. 8 rental properties are kept in the highest standards and is a money making business?
You guys are so blinded by your hatred of the City that you refuse to see the gray area. The blind hatred is also seen in the reactions to depositions...you are so eager to hang the guilty without allowing them to defend themselves....hmmm, maybe those taking the depositions are lying too!
STEVE SCHILLER - I'd like you to know that I am praying for you. You may have it tough at your work place right now.
I think you need to know that no matter what you have done, the Lord will forgive you, all you have to do is ask.
I also want you to know that I'm in a tough spot right now because of St. Paul code enforcement and have been the past couple years, but I know that this will pass just as any pain will pass that you are in.
3:41, first of all there is no hatred for the "City". There is dislike for a few rouge people within City government.
I have posted public information only.Anyone of these people can come here and defend themselves.
Innocent people declare their innocents proudly when in question.
Why do some fear giving a deposition?
What are they hiding from?
They are hiding from the truth! They can't give a deposition because they would have to lie throught their teeth, and then be held accountable on "sworn testimony."
So Section 8 is a money making business and they keep their houses up to the highest standards huh?" Wanna bet? Let me know how much....Bob can hold the money and I will prove beyond a doubt to you that the City of St. Paul and it's section 8 is the biggest slumlord in the city.
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August 22,2001
DAVID THUNE
** IRVINE PARK
SAINT PAUL MN 55 102
RE: CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITH DEFICIENCIES
*** 7TH ST W
Ref. # 1 1992
Dear Property Representative:
Your building was inspected on August 22,2001 for the renewal of your Certificate of Occupancy. Approval for
occupancy will be granted upon compliance with the following deficiency list. The items on the list must be
corrected immediately. A reinspection will be made on September 24,2001 at 9.30 am.
Failure to comply may result in a criminal citation or the revocation of the Certificate of Occupancy. The Saint
Paul Legislative Code requires that no building shall be occupied without a Certificate of Occupancy. The code
also provides for the assessment of additional reinspection fees.
YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTIFYING TENANTS IF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING LIST OF
DEFICIENCIES ARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
DEFICIENCY LIST
all areas - MUFC 1001.5.2 - Provide required annual maintenance of the fire extinguishers by a qualified person
and tag the fire extinguishers with the date of service.
all areas - MUFC 1002.1, MN Stat. 299F.361 - Provide approved fire extinguishers in accordance with the
following types, sizes and locations. -Provide minimum 2AlOBC fire extinguishers spaced not more than 75 feet
travel distance from any point in the building to an extinguisher. They must be permanently mounted between
3 and 5 feet high in readily visible and easily accessible locations.
back constrution exit - SPLC 34.10 (3), 34.33(2) -Repair or replace the unsafe stairway in an approved manner. -
permently attach steps
EXHIBIT L 100011
Case 0:05-cv-01348-JNE-SRN Document 36 Filed 01/16/2007 Page 4 of 25
September 14, 2005
Page 2 of 2
back steps art shop - SPLC 34.10 (3), 34.33(2) -Provide an approved handrail. The top of the handrail must be
between 34 and 38 inches above the treads and run the entire length of the stair.
basement outlets - MUFC 8504 -Provide electrical cover plates to all outlets, switches and junction boxes where
missing.
unit #3 - MUFC 8506 - Discontinue use of extension cords used in lieu of permanent wiring.
units #2 - SPLC 34.14 (2) c - Provide or replace the duplex convenience outlet with ground fault protection
within 3 feet of the basin on an adjacent wall in all bathrooms. This work may require a permit(s). Call LIEP
at (65 1) 266-9090.
units#2 - MN Stat. 299F.362 - Immediately provide and maintain a smoke detector located outside each
sleeping area. - move detectors to outside the sleeping area
upper back rail - SPLC 34.09 (2) 34.32 (2) -Provide an approved guardrail with intermediate ballistrade or rails
4 inches or less apart. This work may require a permit(s). Call LIEP at (651) 266-9090.
SPLC 39.02 (c) - Complete and sign the provided smoke detector affidavit and return it to this office.
You have the right to appeal these orders to the Legislative Hearing Officer. Applications for appeals may be
obtained at the City Clerks Office, 170 City Hall (651-266-8989) and must be filed within 10 days of the date
of the original orders.
If you have any questions, call me at 651-228-6245 between 7:30 a.m - 9:00 a.m. Please help to make Saint Paul
a safer place in which to live and work.
Sincerely,
Carl Comparoni
Fire Inspector
Ref. # 1 1992
EXHIBIT L 100012
Case 0:05-cv-01348-JNE-SRN Document 36 Filed 01/16/2007 Page 5 of 25
FROM:
DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND SAFETY SERVICES
TimothyK Fuller, Fire Chief
1
DIVISION OF FIRE PREVENTION
Stewn Zocea~dF, ire Marshal
100 Em1 Eleventh Slreer Telephone: 651-228-6230
Saint Paul, MN55lOl Facsimile: 651-228-6241
October 1,2001
DAVID THUNE
** IRVINE PARK
SAINT PAUL MN 55102
RE: CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITH DEFICIENCIES
*** 7TH ST W
Ref. # 1 1992
Dear Property Representative:
Your building was inspected on August 22,2001 for the renewal of your Certificate of Occupancy. Approval for
occupancy will be granted upon compliance with the following deficiency list. The items on the list must be
corrected immediately. A reinspection will be made on October 11,2001 at 8.30 am.
Failure to comply may result in a criminal citation or the revocation of the Certificate of Occupancy. The Saint
Paul Legislative Code requires that no building shall be occupied without a Certificate of Occupancy. The code
also provides for the assessment of additional reinspection fees.
YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTIFYING TENANTS IF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING LIST OF
DEFICIENCIES ARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
DEFICIENCY LIST
all areas - MUFC 1001.5.2 - Provide required annual maintenance of the fire extinguishers by a qualified person
and tag the fire extinguishers with the date of service.
all areas - MUFC 1002.1, MN Stat. 299F.361 - Provide approved fire extinguishers in accordance with the
following types, sizes and locations. -Provide minimum 2AlOBC fire extinguishers spaced not more than 75 feet
travel distance from any point in the building to an extinguisher. They must be permanently mounted between
3 and 5 feet high in readily visible and easily accessible locations.
back constrution exit - SPLC 34.10 (3), 34.33(2) -Repair or replace the unsafe stairway in an approved manner. -
permently attach steps
EXHIBIT L 100013
Case 0:05-cv-01348-JNE-SRN Document 36 Filed 01/16/2007 Page 6 of 25
September 13,2005
Page 2 of 2
back steps art shop - SPLC 34.10 (3), 34.33(2) - Provide an approved handrail. The top of the handrail must be
between 34 and 38 inches above the treads and run the entire length of the stair.
basement outlets - MUFC 8504 -Provide electrical cover plates to all outlets, switches and junction boxes where
missing.
unit #3 - MUFC 8506 - Discontinue use of extension cords used in lieu of permanent wiring.
units #2 - SPLC 34.14 (2) c - Provide or replace the duplex convenience outlet with ground fault protection
within 3 feet of the basin on an adjacent wall in all bathrooms. This work may require a permit(s). Call LIEP
at (65 1) 266-9090.
units#2 - MN Stat. 299F.362 - Immediately provide and maintain a smoke detector located outside each
sleeping area. - move detectors to outside the sleeping area
upper back rail - SPLC 34.09 (2) 34.32 (2) - Provide an approved guardrail with intermediate ballistrade or rails
4 inches or less apart. This work may require a permit(s). Call LIEP at (651) 266-9090.
SPLC 39.02 (c) - Complete and sign the provided smoke detector affidavit and return it to this office.
You have the right to appeal these orders to the Legislative Hearing Officer. Applications for appeals may be
obtained at the City Clerks Office, 170 City Hall (651-266-8989) and must be filed within 10 days of the date
of the original orders.
If you have any questions, call me at 651-228-6245 between 7:30 a.m - 9:00 a.m. Please help to make Saint Paul
a safer place in which to live and work.
Sincerely,
Carl Comparoni
Fire Inspector
Ref. # 11992
EXHIBIT L 100014
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