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No arrests, no suspects, no answers. Just grief.
Police cast wide net to solve three slayings in St. Paul family
BY MARA H. GOTTFRIED
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 03/25/2007 12:04:19 AM CDT
Tracy Anderson says a prayer Saturday in front of the St. Paul home where three people were shot and killed Friday. "I'm very sad," said Anderson, a friend of the family. "This is just horrible." (BEN GARVIN, Pioneer Press)As candles burned throughout the day Saturday in front of the St. Paul home where masked intruders shot three people the day before, a feverish police investigation continued.
No one has been arrested in the slayings of Otahl "Telly" Osei Saunders, 31; his fiancée, Maria Lynn McLay, 32; and McLay's daughter, Brittany Kekedakis, 15. McLay's two other children, a 7-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl, reportedly witnessed the crime.
Investigators returned to 292 Burgess St. on Saturday to continue combing through the crime scene, work that police Chief John Harrington said might continue today because the home had been so ransacked. Police also kept up the search for suspects.
Police have said Friday's killings probably weren't random, and, according to family friend Deon Hunter, the masked gunmen who broke into the North End home asked for drugs and cash. But family members on Saturday urged people not to make assumptions about the family, saying the three weren't involved in drugs and were "innocent victims."
"There really was no funny business going on," said a cousin of McLay's.
A close friend of McLay's said she believes the victims were targeted because they lived in one of the nicest homes on the block, built two years ago. Family and friends of the victims have asked not to be identified because they said they fear for their safety.
Police say it probably wasn't a random attack because such a scenario happens so infrequently, Harrington said.
"These kinds of incidents typically don't happen randomly and to everyday people," he said. "There's always the possibility of them being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but that would be unusual."
Also, because Saunders had a criminal record (he was convicted of receiving stolen property in 2002 and possession of dangerous weapons in 1997), "that at least gives us some pause," Harrington said.
As many as five gunmen broke in through a back door of the home after 6 a.m. Friday, said Hunter, a friend of Saunders' who said he heard the 10-year-old girl's account to police. The men rounded up the three victims, along with McLay's 7-year-old son and 10-year-old daughter, into an upstairs bedroom.
The suspects "trashed" the house as they ransacked it, so it's been difficult for police to determine whether anything other than a television was stolen, Harrington said.
The three victims each were shot in the head. Saunders and Brittany were dead when police arrived in response to the 911 call at 6:43 a.m. McLay died soon after at Regions Hospital. The Ramsey County medical examiner's office has done preliminary examinations of the bodies, police said Saturday.
"It strikes me as particularly cowardly to break into a home in the middle of the night and kill a mother and a child," Harrington said.
McLay's younger children ran for help afterward, Hunter said.
"They're in a daze. They're not really doing well," another family member said of the children, who are being cared for by relatives.
Family members plan to start a memorial fund for the children and perhaps to help with funeral arrangements.
A close friend of the family said a single service for Saunders, McKay and Brittany probably would be held this week. Services hadn't been finalized Saturday.
Rome Hanson, president of the Ben Doran Foundation, said if no arrests are made over the weekend, he intends to begin a reward fund Monday. Like Brittany, Ben Doran was 15 and a Como Park Senior High School student living in the city's North End when he was beaten to death on March 31, 2003.
Hanson, who co-founded the foundation with Ben's mother, said the foundation would seek money from local businesses and community members for a reward.
"If we can put some money out there as a community and as a city, maybe some tongues will start wagging," he said.
About one-quarter of the Police Department's investigative staff is working on the Burgess Street homicides, and police are throwing a wide net at this point because they have "no specific motive and no specific suspect pool," Harrington said.
Police are looking for a dark sport utility vehicle, which a neighbor saw at about the time the shootings happened, Harrington said. A suspect might have driven it, or it might have been a newspaper carrier or someone leaving for work who could give police information about what he or she saw in the neighborhood Friday morning, he said.
A community meeting is scheduled for Wednesday evening at the St. Paul Public Library branch at 1011 N. Rice St., with the time to be announced.
Dozens of candles, stuffed animals, angel figurines and bouquets of flowers made up a makeshift memorial outside the victims' home Saturday.
The finality of a peer's death has stunned Brittany's Como classmates and friends, several of whom said it was the first time anyone they knew had died. Only a few days ago, they had been worried about how Brittany was handling the death of her maternal great-grandmother, who was buried Thursday.
"I just saw her; I just talked to her after the funeral," said Solmonique Harris, a Como sophomore. "She said she was fine. She was sad, but that was Brittany. She never stayed sad, never stayed angry. She'd make you smile."
Isaac Funches has known the family since McLay bought the home next to his about two years ago. He was home when the shootings occurred but said he didn't hear anything.
Funches' children used to play with McLay's children. His youngest son, 10, has been asking why the violence happened.
"I say, 'Son, I don't know, but it's going to be all right,' " Funches said. "I tell him, 'Things happen for a reason, but only God knows.' "
Staff writer Dave Orrick contributed to this report.
Mara H. Gottfried covers St. Paul public safety. She can be reached at mgottfried@pioneerpress.com or 651-228-5262. Police ask anyone with information to call them at 651-266-5650 or 651-291-1111.
I know you fucken cops and City Council would just love to say these people were bad, deserved to die because of the company they kept. Then you could say this was a Problem Property.
A message to the police and the City Council. LISTEN FOOLS, people commit crimes not buildings.
Let's say the victims were drug dealers.. Doesn't change a thing! WE HAVE SERIAL KILLERS ON THE LOOSE FOR GOD SAKE!
As Bob said weeks ago. It is going to be a long hot summer because we don't have an effective crime strategy.Get a clue MORANS...
Also, because Saunders had a criminal record (he was convicted of receiving stolen property in 2002 and possession of dangerous weapons in 1997), "that at least gives us some pause," Harrington said.
*So the guy had a record. BIG DEAL. YOU SAY "PAUSE" Harrington. I hope this was just a poor choice of words.
they tore a problem property to put a new house in it's place , to attract a better type of criminal? do something about the people not the housing. who will fix the new house? the dead guys family,no the owner, who will rent this house next?
Coleman, City Council, Harrington.
Our City is in a crisis and you people better start doing something about it. I am not talking about doing a sweep of problem properties either.
There is no such thing as a problem property. Only problem people!
As far as I am concerned you folks are done!
Hi All,
I want people to know I feel there will be a arrest very soon in this matter.
The police feel the perps knew their victims.I agree.
I also don't believe the perps went to the house with the intentions to kill everybody.
Right now someplace there is some one scared shit-less due to their involvement in this incident.
They just can't believe their pal who accompanied them to this house actually went off the deep end and killed these people.
In their minds they are contemplating what to do next. Some may even be considering going to the police and telling the story to get lienency.
Others have run and left town if they have any money to do so.
The perps out of fear will be confiding in people they trust looking for answers.
The killing may not be over. Some where there is a killer concerned about the people who accompanied him to this house. He may start killing his associates to silence them.
I say this because after a violent situation like this the perps all get together and talk. I find it hard to believe that if 5 guys went into this house to rob the people that all of them are perfectly OK with these people being shot to death.
I am sure there is a level of fear toward the actual killer and this serves to keep some silenced. However, all it will take is to get one of these guys downtown to police head quaters and they will sing their ass off.
These kids now a days like to talk tough and yet this generation has no back bone. The cops will tell you that these kids now a days are the biggest bunch of snitches they have ever seen.
They're not sitting around scared shitless. The killers are long gone. They probably went back to Chicogo or wherever they came from right after they killed the people.
I love how all of the problems are blamed on out of towners. Let me give you a hint, people have been blaming Chicago since the 30's. I'll bet any million that StPaul has grown its own group thugs and muderers.
Responsibility doesn't mean we can't stop it because its from elsewhere. It means that whatever happens within our borders is our issue and we'll take care of it.
I agree with Bob. Five guys with no ethics trying to live with a secret like this is not going to go for long. Somebody will talk to either clear a conscience or make a deal. Its matter of time.
The rest of the comments I got to say are pretty gutter-quality and irresponsible. Its the negative effect of being able to post anonymously.
They won't be turning anyone in to clear their conscience I guarantee you that. These guys are sitting somehwere laughing about it becuase that;s how they prove they are a "man" is by hurting people.
Gutter quality?
You don't by chance work for the city do you?
As I read this, I can recall the city council meetings and the discussion about not adding more police officers to handle the gangs coming from Minneapolis. They argument was it costs too much.
Our mayor, a former city council member seems to take the view of four members of the city council (Kathy, Lee, Dave and Jay) that we have enough police and we should spend our money on "Green" causes. Look at Chris Coleman's buddy in Minneapolis. It seems Rybak spends more time in St. Paul than in Minneapolis where he is mayor or pretends to be mayor.
As I have been recently informed, the gangs are already settling in on the East Side as I write this, but Mayor Coleman does not care. Our mayor is so out of touch with reality it scares me.
It will be interesting to see what Lee "Little Boy" Helgen has to say this week at the community meeting. I will be hanging onto his every word. Haas will be also be listening.
Bill
I like how 10:13 points out the make deal with city law officials, that is the way the city operates lets make a deal then you can risk you and your families life but us law officers can tell the public to look at how effective and what a good job we are doing we caught the killers when in reality you are creating the murder scene for the informants family!
Bill,
I like the name Little Boy Helgen.
anonymous...
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John M.Harrington
CHIEF OF POLICE
March 25, 2007
292 Burgess Update
Earlier today detectives from the Saint Paul police department’s homicide unit released the home at 292 Burgess to family members of the victims of Friday’s shootings. The home had been held as a crime scene until both the medical examiner and the crime lab had completed their initial work.
Maria McLay age 32, Othal Saunders age 31, and, Brittany Kekedakis age 15, were killed in the upstairs of their home on the morning of March 23rd. Since that time members of the Saint Paul police crime lab have recovered a great deal of forensic evidence and the medical examiner has completed the preliminary report. This information is assisting detectives in determining the sequence of events and in identifying potential suspects.
The suspects and the suspect vehicle are still at large. Police are looking for a dark SUV seen leaving the scene at about 6:40 A.M. on Friday. People with information about the suspects or the vehicle involved are asked to call 651-291-1111
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St. Paul Police Sgt.Jon Loretz, wants to return to work.
$60,000 a year for staying home.
Chief John Harrington put the sergeant on paid leave a year ago.
How many other police officers are on paid leave.
Tax dollars go to treat Ex Police Chief William Finney son, to a paid vacation.
We can't afford more police at this time.
More empty speeches which means they really have nothing.
St Paul tries to cover up everything they do wrong. they didn't give him a paid vacation, they moved him out of the public eyes and away from contact with people to keep him quiet.
When Loretz comes back to work they will probably bring him back with a nice fat promotion to shut him up. St Paul doesn't like people who spill the beans and if they can't fire you for it then they give you a promotion or a pay raise.
You don't know how close to the mark you are. I work for St. Paul and have seen this happen several times.
No arrests, no suspects, no answers, just grief....
and an assurance of more murder victims in the future from a city that puts more emphasis on beating up landlords and tearing down buildings than they do an effective crime control.
This type of strategy is really starting to get old.
loosing brittany, ria, and tc is the worst thing to happen in so long, the police need to step it up!
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