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Hi All,
You regulars here all seen it...! Councilman Helgen posted here and invited folks to his little get together at the Bruce Vento Elementary and many of us took him up on the offer.
I think maybe... he was referring to people other than myself and Bill M. of the Watchdog News.I'll get to that issue a little on down the lines here. Yes folks the DOG's were barking at the Bruce Vento Elementary the noise was deafening.Terrifing to some!
Well on with the story-
I took 4 minority people with me,(all of whom have been harassed for "Walking While Black") one of which was my son. My son took the video of the meeting for us. Proud of him, Saint Paul's youngest black business man and taking an interest in his community. :-)
I am not going to get into every little detail of what was said. IT WAS A LONG MEETING and I am lazy! That's a lot of typing.
We get there and walk in and help pass out chairs. I noticed Mr. Helgen right away. He is a towering man with a bit of a pair shape. I sat in the second to the last row of chairs next to this very attractive woman to my left.
It wasn't long into the meeting that I felt the whole get together was more than informing citizens of what the city is doing but a sort of rally for Councilman Helgen.
I asked the Fire Marshall, "In the past it is believed that code enforcement has been used to address behavioral issues, and if that is the case will it be used again? Yes was the answer...Then I asked, There is no available assistance for housing the homeless, what will we do with the displaced people that are condemned from their homes? I was told the numbers would be small. they are working on a plan. They can go to family and friends.< Ya sure...? Ya said you were looking for over crowding too!And we know you take sleeping bags and tents from the homeless in the middle of the winter. ya analogy better on the street freezing to death than in a warm home is barbaric.
After that I passed some Watchdogs & the A-democracy news Letter down the row of seats. They came back around to the row in front of me and the jondus looking woman in front of me almost let out an OH ICK, and she set the papers on the empty chair next to her. I retrieved them.
I think Magner seen the Watchdog going around.I was staring at him directly in the face. He was beat red and vibrating like a cell phone on the ledge he was sitting on.
I handed a "A-Democracy News Letter" to the attractive lady next to me and shortly after Helgen announced she was the City Attorney. Do all these City Attorneys look like this?
Really folks, if you weren't privy to all the information right here at this Town hall meeting you would of thought Lee Helgen is a great guy.
Then just before my son runs out of film Bill of the Watchdog stands up and ask Helgen if Nancy was pressured to be a snitch or there would be a big whole in the ground where her house sits?
Helgen was saying in a loud voice that is misinformation it isn't true. I was saying YES IT IS! Every time he stated this.
Helgen adjourned the meeting early! My son handed me the camera and he and his friends passed out the A-Democracy news Letter that was abruptly stopped by the Jondus looking woman.
As Bill, I and my group are approaching the door to leave Helgen rushes us and states in a stern voice, "you 2 gentleman can leave with your misinformation"!
I said this is a public building, you have no right to say that!You don't have that authority.Helgen says well it's misinformation. Bill says tell me how it's misinformation.
We went back and forth like that until Helgen walked away. I think maybe Bill stayed to talk to him. I had to leave because I had to puke.
I would really like to know how that threat is misinformation whan I have several witnesses to that fact! I wish so much that I could of been there to have Mr Helgen say to my face that it is misinformation when it is indeed a fact. My option in front of several witnesses were to snitch on one particular individual or I would lose my children, my freedom and inspectors would write my house up beyond my affordability to repair. City officials even discussed the dollar figures in front of us as to how much to write me up, of course I was allowed ample time to think about becoming a snitch first, like a couple weeks, oh and as for my fears of becoming a snitch they said they would relocate me if it became a threat to my life, but the threat had to be very direct and proven. In other words in my mind after I was dead they would realize I was in danger, but even with the relocation that did not include other innocent family that would also become in danger, like my mother or brothers and etc...
My question is; does Mr. Helgen really believe that I was not threatened or is he just as guilty as the officials that threatened me?
Nancy
Bob,
You have to understand Lee gets confused a lot (most of the time). Have you ever watched the council meetings? It is like a game of “Who's On First” with Lee. If it is not spelled out for him, Lee just does not get it no matter how many times it is explained to him.
Lee was happy when Nancy’s house was torn down. It is never a happy day when a house is torn down that was in good shape like Nancy’s. As someone who works for St. Paul, I can tell you that there are some very questionable things that go on. Bob you have only touched on just a fraction of the stuff that goes on.
The sad thing about all this mess is you and I and the rest of St. Paul pay for this due to higher taxes.
Lee is not the brightest bulb that walked the earth, Haas will be a BIG improvement over Lee.
As for your comments on the lawyerettes, I agree with you on that one.
We should have a poll right here at A-Democracy, "who is the hottest babe in the City Attorneys office"?
Still gotta give Lee credit for having the guts to tread upon our play ground.
Nancy, my heart goes out to you.
I was at the meeting and the more I thought about what went on with Helgen last night and the more I thought about the information I recieved last night after having read it when I got home and again today, the more outraged I am. I believe what Bob and others are saying about these city officials.
Nancy's home would have sold for a good price, if it hit the market.
But as we know, we who went though it -- the news people lied about the condition of it.
CH 5 KSTP News Lady Cyndy the Bitch Brucato Cyndy Brucato.
She helped cover up for who ever condemned Nancy's nice home.
We seen that when she worked for EX Governor Arne Carlson, she was a kiss butt at that time.
I went to Gov. Carlson about my home, that was useless,
They have ways to shut you up.
But some of us have more guts, then others.
Nancy is a nice person, that was trying to save her home.
Most Crooks use Guns, the city uses Code Enforcement.
Bill Dahn www.BillDahn.com
Bill do you have to call people names?
Hey Bill, you seem to be mad at all of the Republicans. KSTP is owned and operated by supre conservative Stan Hubbard. Cyndi was a conservative consultant before going back into tv and Arne like the U.
I thought liberals were your problem.
Bob, when did lee try to throw you out?
7:57, you know Haas?
We have a bit of a confrontive crowd here at A-Democracy. They let you know exactly what's on their mind. Unlike another forum many of us are aware of that shuns the truth to maintain their sacred bond with City officials who don't give a crap about a certain economic class of our city.
BUT, if anyone wishing to run for an office came here and gave us reason to support them, well, I think we could help get the right person elected.
If you have been following what's going on here at A-Democracy you would see that I am generously building a grass roots fire. I am capitalizing on a tactic of the City elites and using a wrecking ball attitude to demolish the opposition.
10:34, As I said in my post.QUOTE
As Bill, I and my group are approaching the door to leave Helgen rushes us and states in a stern voice, "you 2 gentleman can leave with your misinformation"!
Helgen is a member of Saint Paul Issues and Forums. So I am not surprised he approves of censoring.
Helgen sits at the coucil meetings every Wednesday and spews misinformation and he has the nerve to say this to you? How is he so sure it is misinformation when they refuese to do an investigation on all this crap? If he had any integrity at all he would refer these corruption matters over to the FBI and get to the bottom of it, but I guess when you are too busy trying to hide the city council from attending a deposition.....well that says something about whether it is misinformation or not. I don't believe you Lee.
Dear Anonymous 11:59 P. M.
I agree with you, have you ever watched the council meetings? Lee gets confused a lot (most of the time).
You should hear what some of the other staffers at city hall call Lee. Most I can not print here. I could see a first year city council member being confused, but after three years Lee still does not seem get it. Lee would be lost if he did not have Kathy, Jay and Dave.
His "Good News" post on St. Paul Issues Forum was really poor.
I need to tell my friends in the insurance business about Lee, they could really make some money off this individual. I guess, if he is called into court and is asked what he knows, Lee can honestly say he does not know. Lee really has no clue at all.
I read someplace here Bob said he was going to all these meetings.
Are you going to other public meetings Bob? Or is it just Helgens meetings?
I suggest you go to all the public events with your questions, camera, and News Letter. You have enlighten me, I feel you should do the same for others.
Someone mentioned Haas as an alternative to Helgen, if Haas is a democrat... FORGET IT! He don't have my vote. I know there is good democrats in this City,but,it seems the one party rule has destroyed the harmony of discoarse on our City Council.
Personally, I would like to see some opposition to each other occasionally on some of the issues that come before the council.
We have insects (Ants) on the council now. Speaking to them is like speaking to a single entity that has been dissected and the pieces of the dissection still communicate with each other.
I will vote for Libertarians, Independent, cows, horses, dogs and cats.. But NO DEMOCRATS!
To 10:05 AM
Thank you.
That is how even the Democrats feel.
The one party rules has to go.
GOOD TOP OF THE MORNING TO ALL!
Yes I will be attending any public meeting I hear about, if they don't cancel all of them!
Tri-District Council Meeting Cancellation"
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The "Tri-District Council Meeting Cancellation" Topic contains these posts:
Date Posted Posted By
Feb 17, 2007 9:40 am Diane Gerth
Posted Feb 17, 2007 9:40 am by Diane Gerth
A meeting that had been scheduled for the Tri-District Council that will be
reviewing proposals for the site of the now-withdrawn Bridges of St. Paul
project has been cancelled and will be rescheduled at a later time. It was
to have taken place Monday evening at 7:00 p.m. at Neighborhood House.
The rescheduling was done at the request of Council Member Thune on Friday
afternoon. While most of the members of the group have been contacted, we know
that there were members of the public who were going to attend. If you know of
anyone who might have planned on attending, please let them know about the
change.
We'll let people know when it's rescheduled.
Diane Gerth
West Endtop
The above post was copied from the bowels of Saint Paul Issues and Forums. You can find a link to SPIF to the right of the screen on the front page.
So why do you think it was cancelled? Could it be that Thune doesn't want the condition of his properties brought to light by
"intruders" coming in and breaking up their tea party? Okay, I see it was requested on Friday and that would have been the day after Helgen's tea party. So am I jumping to the wrong conclusion,or what?
Intruders is a very fitting description. The attitude the City council has is that "it's us against them," and I am sick and tired of it. I can't tell you how many times I have wondered what it si that Kathy Lantry has on all these other Councilmen that they go along with such an air head on everything she says and does.
I don't know why anyone is so suprised by the events of this meeting. Whenever you want to know if a politician is telling a lie, just look to see if his lips are moving! That's all these people do is lie and spread misinformation and that is exactly why they do not want to go to any depositions. By doing so, they know that they will be exposed for what they are. It is exactly why they want Bob to leave the meeting, they know they will be be exposed for what they are and also what they are not! They think thier policies are so good and have worked so well, why not debate them and take credit.....especially in an election year
Blogs tell the story: Where does Helgen Live, what are his property taxs and Mortgage if any
www.minnesotamortgagemassacre.blogspot.com and www.msnusers.com/AndersonAdvocates
PLEASE, do not post Councilman Helgens address here.
That would upset me...
I'd like to know what his address is so i can go see if his house has all its codes.
What does it matter if his house meets the codes? Look at Thunes, it doesn't matter if you hold a position such as they do with in the city of St.Paul. The ordinences are just for the average citzens.
A little more Tim Ciani work please! Where is he anyways?
I am new to this so I admit I dont know alot of what is going on. I went to this meeting and I thought this guy is looking out for the community and what a nice guy. Helgen had me fooled during the meeting, then things changed when the meeting was over on the way out the door Helgen was handed a news letter and when he looked at it he was telling Bob and other people they had to leave all because he did not like the news letter about the truth. That showed me is a liar and could not be trusted. I beleive this meeting was all for selfish reasons like votes.Thank you Bob for looking out for all of us.
About the City Council.
Ward 1 - Debbie Montgomery
Ward 2 - Dave Thune Ward
3 - Pat Harris
Ward 4 - Jay Benanav
Ward 5 - Lee Helgen
Ward 6 - Dan Bostrom
Ward 7 - President, Kathy Lantry
Dogs that "LIE" together, wake up with Flees
BillDahn
www.BillDahn.com
St,Paul's
Mayor Chris Coleman,
Tells the Police, Fire, Code, Health Departments and the other City Agencies what to do.
As you point the finger at City Government, point at Mayor Chris Coleman first.
Bill Dahn
www.billdahn.com
http://billdahn.blogspot.com
Coleman was on the city council when the housing corruption started. He helped start it and now he is keeping it going rather than stop it.
What do you mean by "keep it going?" The city is presently ramping up for an all out assault on the city property owners...one which will be remembered for a looooong time. They are bringing in a new and much meaner breed of inspectors to finish off the landlords. They want to double the number of "closed up" buildings by the end of the summer.
What meeting is next for the exposing?
Bob,
Reply from 7:57.
Yes, I know Haas. Lets just say Haas is the one I am supporting. Jim R. would have been proud of Haas.
The difference between Haas and Helgen are like day and night.
12:02- tell us why you think he will do a better job. If you know him ask him if he will come here and talk to us.
What can this group do for him? Go after Helgen? You're already doing that.
7:49, don't you think maybe we vote and possibly through our efforts we may influence votes?
Change is coming.
We are new to the area and have been looking to buy a home in St.Paul when I happen to be discussing the matter of location with a co-worker. They directed me to this site and said I would find the information I needed about the city of St.Paul. I am shocked at what I have read on this site for the past two hours, I now understand why this person advised me to stay out of the city limits. They felt I should read about the way the city is handling properties and make my own judgement as to whether or not I still wanted to invest in St.Paul. I am very thankful to whom ever Bob is for furnishing me with this information here. I will be looking at buying my home outside of the city now.
Thank you very much!
Sarah & Micheal
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