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Saturday, August 27, 2011

The Wisconsin Governor Was Right

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posted by Bob at Saturday, August 27, 2011

12 Comments:

Blogger Bob said...

An anonymous reader of the Town Hall sent me this.


Remember the violent and disgusting demonstrations over Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker doing away with the collective bargaining for teacher's unions? The results are in. Some school districts went from a $400,000 deficit to a $1,500,000 surplus as a result. Why? It seems that the insurance company that provided all the "so-called" benefits to the teachers, was an insurance company owned and operated by the teacher's union. Since they were guaranteed to get the insurance business from the teachers and the State had to pay for it, and not the teachers, they were increasing the annual costs every single year to become the most expensive insurance company in the state. Then the insurance company was donating millions and millions of dollars to their favorite democrat politicians, who when they got elected, guaranteed to keep funding the unions outrageous costs. In other words, the insurance company was a "pass through" for Wisconsin taxpayer money directly to the democrat politicians.

Nice racket, and this is the racket that is going on in every single State that allows collective bargaining. No wonder the States are taking it away. Now that the State of Wisconsin is free to put the insurance contract out for bid, and lo and behold, they have saved so much money it has turned deficits into surplus amounts. As a result, none of the teachers had to be laid off, everyone got a raise, etc., etc., and the taxpayers of Wisconsin don't have to pay more taxes to fund the union's political ambitions.

LINK

9:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The one saving grace in the past in dealing with bureaucracy is that one unit of government despised the others. You could point one unit at another. Now with collective bargaining by state workers, they are all united. Woe be to any poor stiff who does not get good service from our 'public servants'.

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did this guy actually READ the LINK?

It doesn't say what he said it said.

No one ever desputed that if you took away collective barganing you would save money, what idiot would think that you wouldn't. The district in question forced an increase in cost onto the teachers for both their health care and pension. That is how the district "saved" 2 million dollars, it took it out of the teachers pockets.

As to this "company" that this goof ball thinks is the insurance company that was ripping off the state that was owned by the teachers union, its a purchasing group created by the union and the state is still using them. Nothing has changed there at all.

The reason why the state using a purchasing group like that is that they understand what is the terms of the health insurance agreements that have been signed and they then negosiate with health care companies to come up with offers that will meet those terms.

Re-read your own link...

So, the governor is right you will save money if you fuck employees. The only question is for how long will anyone want to do that job for that pay who has the skill sets you want to do the job?

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck, you need to reread the article.

The unions had a lock on this deal and they made money that was then directed to Democrat candidates.

You only have to look in St. Paul. Jay Benanav ran something very simular. Benanav's insurance firm was the only one allowed by state statue to sell umemployement insurance in the state. His company had a lock on the unemployment insurance sales. Benanav made a lot of money due to the DFL controlled House and Senate giving Jay Benanav monopoly. Chuck have you ever wondered how much Jay's company contributes to DFL candidates over Republican candidates? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Chuck go down to the Ramsey County Elections and ask then for the contribution records for any DFL candidate and you will find large donations from the unions. This was union dues money.

Next Chuck look at what the unions give to groups like the DFL City Committee.

Next look at the corrupt union organizations like the St. Paul Regional Labor Federation and their president Bobby Kasper.

Bobby Kasper was caught with his pants down around his ankles, recorded on tape trying to solicit an undercover cop for sex. Sure this union thug was just in the wrong place and was just an upstanding citizen.

Then to have the city attorney, John Choi, now Ramsey County Attorney and former Chief John Harrington, now State Senator Harrington drop the charges because Bobby Kasper was a friend of the mayor, Chris Coleman (DFL) and every other DFL elected official in St. Paul. That made a lot of cops in St. Paul scratch their heads and wonder why they are trying to catch bad guys in the first place when the elected officials are covering for them.

Chuck if you don't believe me here read it in the union Pioneer Press:

St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) - February 10, 2010 - B1 Local

Member of police chief search panel quits Labor leader confronted with prostitution, gambling arrests

A member of a committee to help select St. Paul's next police chief resigned Tuesday after the Pioneer Press confronted him about his own brushes with the law, including arrests on suspicion of soliciting a prostitute and of cheating at gambling. Bobby Kasper, 51, of Forest Lake, the newly elected president of the St. Paul Regional Labor Federation.

6:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not Chuck's DFL, they can't do anything wrong. Chuck you are full of it again.

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck I see you are getting beaten up on St. Paul Issues Forum, you just can't win even with your buddy Dave Thune posting. Kinda like holding to Mama's apron strings.

I also see Bob Spaulding had to suspend posting on the topic because the conversation got to negative for your feelings.

Chuck cry me a river.

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like you can do anything you want in St. Paul as long as you are part of the machine but if you are a property owner with a few minor violations they make an art out of turning your life inside out.

8:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:57 - read the article...

The group is a purchasing group. It reviews health care packages. In the contract the state was required to use them. After the governor tore up the contract, they decided to use them anyway...

All of the rest is just bull shit.

Read the damn thing.

As to Bobby Kasper, what does that have to do with anything??

JMONTOMEPPOF

chuck Repke

11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck, I see you glossed over Jay Benanav and his insurance monopoly.

This all comes down to the unions running things only for the benefit of the union and to hell with the union members and taxpayers.

You Democrats like to say we aren't willing to pay our fair share, well Chuck we are and then some. The system is broke and the onl;y solution the Demicrats is throw more money at the situation instead of trying to fix the solution. The unions have benefited from the Democrat controlled government, as there are no checks and balances.

5:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over the past 40 years the Union movement in this country has been almost wiped out. What planet do you live on? The Dem's have had the White house for 14 of the last 42 years. Dayton is the first DFL Governor in MN in twenty years! The problems that we have in the country can not be put on the DEM's or on Labor.... this mess is the product of the GOP step by step, block by block, destroying the middle class that LIBERAL Democratic Government had created in the 40's - 60's...

You are correct that in states like Minnesota we still have state employee unions that negosiate contracts, but the reason for state employee union was to stop the kind of corruption that you claim to want to stop.

If it weren't for unions then the guy who plows the highways would be fired every time an election happens. Or, teachers, or bookkeepers, or DNR workers.... that's the point of collective barganing, and employee contracts for city, county and state work. Its to keep out the political spoils system.

The reason why the unions are more supportive of Dems then Reps is because the Dems support those protections for workers.... because they support a system that doesn't allow the spoils system.

What is so amazing is how you guys are able to keep getting away with claiming it is still 1969 and unions have power and the Dems are in charge. It is 2011 the GOP has by in large run the country for 40 years and the economy is a mess... our health cares system is a disaster... the gap between the rich and poor is the biggest that it has been since 1929.... and yet you clowns think more of those policies will help the country. Its insane.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, this story ran today on the number of teachers that have decided to call it quits in Wisconsin. Again, the point of Republican government is to make wages so low, nobody will want to teach our children... I mean why do we want our kids to know all of that stupid stuff anyway????

Like I said the GOP hates government so much that at some point the country will be laid to waste. They have loyalty and no love of America.
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MADISON, Wis. -- When students return Thursday for the first day of school across Wisconsin, many familiar faces will be gone, as teachers chose retirement over coming back in the wake of a new law that forces them to pay more for benefits while taking away most of their collective bargaining rights.

Documents obtained by The Associated Press under the state's open records law show that about twice as many public school teachers decided to hang it up in the first half of this year as in each of the past two full years, part of a mass exit of public employees.

Their departures came before the new law took effect, changes pushed by Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican Legislature that led to weeks of protests at the Capitol.

The ensuing exodus of teachers and other state employees has led to fears that the jobs might not be filled, and that classroom leadership by veteran teachers will be lost.

Ginny Fleck, a German teacher from Green Bay with 30 years of experience, is among nearly 5,000 teachers who retired.

"It wouldn't make sense for me to teach one more year and basically lose $8,000," she said. Fleck, 69, decided to retire in February, even before the bill became law, in part because of the hit she would take to her $60,000 annual salary, and because of other changes the district was making.

In the first six months of 2011, overall public employee retirements were double that in all of either 2009 or 2010, according to data provided to the AP by the Wisconsin Retirement System. That includes 4,935 Wisconsin school district employees who started receiving retirement benefits, up from 2,527 teacher retirements in all of 2010 and 2,417 in 2009.

Teachers weren't the only ones heading for the exits. State agency retirements were particularly dramatic, nearly tripling from 747 in all of 2010 to 1,966 through June. Retirements from the University of Wisconsin System more than doubled, up from 480 last year to 1,091 this year. All told, 9,933 public workers had retired by the end of June, a 93 percent increase from 5,133 in 2010. The year before, there were 4,876 retirements.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

10:27 AM  
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11:21 AM  

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