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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:38:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Nancy Lazaryan" nancylazaryan@yahoo.com
Subject: HELP!...another attack.
To: "bob johnson" rbljohnson@yahoo.com
Bob,
My daughter called me shortly after 8:00PM and two men had driven up to the house at 1033 Colne in a white pickup truck that had a City of St. Paul Inspections sign on the door. The men were in plain clothes, but the driver was wearing a baseball cap that said "St. Paul Police Department".
They got out of the truck and approached the house, yelling at my daughter that she had to leave the house, that it was a registered vacant building. My daughter said the matter was appealed in the district court. They told her that the city attorney said the appeal had been lost. She told them they were wrong and showed them the court papers. Then my daughter asked why the city attorney was not in court on Friday when we were asking the judge for a restraining order.
My daughter asked for a warrant, and when they did not produce a warrant she demanded they leave the property. The men then told my daughter they would be back in the morning and that they were going to TAKE the dumpster, not just remove the garbage that was in the dumpster.
I called the Ramsey County sheriff's department. They refused to take a complaint, saying that we had to go to the St. Paul police department and make a complaint to the St. Paul police about the police harassing us.
This is NUTS...I'm going to be at the judge's chambers first thing in the morning demanding the restraining order. If I don't get it, I'll be over at the Court of Appeals griping a Judge Touissant.
BOB---could you please POST this?
Nancy
When you get to the judge, tell them that two idiots came to your house impersonating a police officer !!
Have your daughter put it in an affidavit and redo the restraining order on new grounds.
Jeff Matiatos
I just got more informaton from my daughter. There were THREE men that came to the house and none of them identified themselves.
She did get the number that was on the white pickup truck.
She also called the St. Paul police and made a report on the phone and will follow up with the police at the station in the morning. The guy with the cap that said "St. Paul Police" was in plain clothes and NO ONE showed her a badge or any identification. Was this guy impersonating a police officer?
Nancy,
You stated your daughter said 3 men came to the house.
Have your daughter click above to attempt to identify the men in photos.
These corrupt bastards can't even follow their own rules! It says in the city code that if it's under appeal, then the matter is stayed until it is finally decided. Don't go to the Police and give them anything. Call the ricomens Attorney and have him kick their ass for them. These corrupt city officials really do believe they are above the law and the ends justify whatever means they have to use to carry out their agenda.
If the matter truely has not been decided, I wonder why the City Attorney would say she lost? There's been talk here before of evidence of the city fixing the Court, and I wonder if the City Attorney is thinking out loud because he knows what the outcome of this case is going to be. The end will be interesting.
Every single thing the city says is a lie and everything they do is a trick of some sort. Follow that in your dealings with these people and you won't be far from wrong.
Lets hear it Chucky boy....we'll start the violin music and you can tell us how the city has the right to come with their government Police and terrorize and threaten people when they're in the middle of an appeal process.
Cheat & deceit is the name of the game and the St. Paul City Council should get the blame.
OK - Help me. When I look this up it says that it was vacant since May of 2006. Is Nancy saying that she has actually been in there since 2006 and has been appealing it that long?
Or is this new injustice that we are talking about that a building is on the vacant building list and someone ignores it, moves in and challanges the City's ability to have a vacant building list and/or to enforce the public safety issues on properties that are no longer habitable?
Because if Nancy has been in there since 2006 and has been involved in the courts on this since that time then she is right and should be able to stay until there is a final ruling. If on the other hand if she is challanging the City's ability to enforce basic health and safety issues and this is some type of non-violent civil disobediance then she should expect the law to enforce the law.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Anybody recall that very big and old victorian home across from the ex-cel center that was moved downtown that the homeless people were living in that the state police actually ended up being called and fenced it off with razor wire ?
With all the vacant homes in the city, how do they keep the homeless and riff raf out of these places.
I hear they go in there and really make them un inhabitable .
So maybe the city should have to repair the damage to these vacant buildings because it was their action that precipitated the continued deterioration of these propertys.
The city ought to razor wire and fence in all these vacant buildings.
Wounldnt that look great.
Jeff Matiatos
Chuck Repke
8:45 AM JMONTOMEPPOF
I did a search on JMONTOMEPPOF?
Here is the first thing to come up, it was posted July 26,2004 at E Democracy.
From: Bill Dahn Date: Jul 26 04:46 UTC Short link
What is a SPicy?
What is JMONTOMEPPOF? It is Chuck Repke
"He" was Ex Aide to "Dave Thune" St.Paul
City Councilman, in the past.
Chuck is a person that brags of being part of about 100 campaign in his
career.
He must be some kind of a good person, to get some help from the city with
his Development on the East Side of St.Paul.
I think city council people should be the person that take the blame for
their blatant way to help 1 person, when he asked Dave Thune of ward 2.
Chuck Repke > went to Humboldt High School of St.Paul, on the West Side in
ward 2.
I would say Chuck should run for office.
He was loyal to his boss Dave Thune in 1996 when ask to look at the Bad
Insulation that Ramsey Action Program aka RAP installed in Bill Dahn's home in
September 1995.
Then the city started one big cover up about RAP installing "formaldehyde
Soaked Insulation" in the poor, disabled, minority's and the elderly people
homes for free.
That was a price that Jesus Christ would not past by.
I found out the insulation was banned in Canada for the high levels of
formaldehyde in it.
Violated my constitutional issues of FREE SPEECH.
So RAP and their weatherizing part of Ramsey Action Program was buying up
"BAD Insulation for "pennies"
and There reimbursement was 'Dollars on he penny.
So you asked who JMONTOMEPPOF is.
Just one past St.Paul City Government Employee, that know people in city
hall.
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Bill Dahn
West Side
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It looks like Thune and others in the city could not shut up Bill Dahn.
How can they every shut Nancy up.
Get Them Nancy, show St.Paul what a women can do.
Right, the United States Government
that put thousands of people in formeldahyde infested trailers after hurricane katrina.
Jeff Matiatos
It is time that anyone who deals with the inspections gang start using their weapons.
Make a diary, record Everything -times, dates, places, who said what, questions at the time, phone numbers, who-what-where-why-when-how-how much.
Make it indisputable in case it goes to court - bound book, use ink, consistent format, no skipped lines. Get expert withesses to key events, get a camera and keep it handy, maybe even a body wire. Ask for documentation from the inspectors, Keep every document and make a documentation trail a mile wide.
Maybe Bob could keep track of pattern of intimidation -what intimidation and how much, such as inspectors sending notices with only a few days lead time.
Give the city representatives every opportunity to trip themselves up and hang themselves.
9:28 you said, "I did a search on JMONTOMEPPOF"
If you are for real and new here, I sign my posts JMONTOMEPPOF
Just My Opinion Not Those Of My Employers Past Present Or Future
JMONTOMEPPOF get it?
The reason I do that is because whenever I post someone want to say that because I said it, it must mean that one of my employers must think it.
On this list you will keep seeing people linking me to Dave Thune. I worked for Dave at the City Council from January 2, 1990 until December 31, 1997... MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO! But, still anytime I post the bright guys here think that because I typed it someone I worked for over ten years ago must believe it. Pretty amazing.
Now on another list for two years they kept linking me to Ted Mondale who I worked for in 1998. No one has brought up David Minge that I free lanced for, but for just the longest time I was tied to Don Moe... I was his campaign manager in 1980, 1982, and 1986.
I am also a registered lobbyist and an independent contractor for a couple of neighborhood groups so the folks on this list will at time attack them for me as well.
So, no, JMONTOMEPPOF is no secret code of the under ground government out to get Bill or Nancy.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
You don't like abortions? Don't have one. Problem solved.
You can't stand gay marriage? Don't marry a guy. Problem solved.
You don't like Jews (obviously), so leave the country. Take ten people who think like you with you. Problem solved.
See? Democrats solve problems.
Oh, the bridges project? It was fought and killed by the DFL who took an official position against it. Luna would not be in that group, he is a Randy Kelly guy and that's where his loyalty and DFL credentials extend.
You thank the DFL on your way to 1938 Germany. Asshat.
Eric
Government agents terrorizing people in their homes?.....In the dark?.....No identification?....Threats made when citiznes assert their rights?.....This is very disturbing news Chuck....what say you? No problem at all with Eric I know, but I'm interested in what Repke the "Spin Wizzard" has to say.
Is are legislature above the Law?
Judge Gearin in Ramsey County dismissed a court challange concerning the legislatures increase in daily expense payments by a group called " Citizens for the rule of law "
The group sought to make lawmakers repay the state for per diem alleging the higher payments amount to a pay increase.
Senators can claim $96 a day and house members can claim up to $77
dollars a day.
Jeff Matiatos
I give you Dave Thune. Democrat Saint Paul city councilman.
"Did you know there was a 'Deadheads for Obama' Web site?" asked a wowed St. Paul City Council Member Dave Thune after he and the group of roughly 20 emerged from the private session. "Barack Obama told me that. He took one look at my (tie-dyed) shirt and told me."
LO-f*cking-L!
I swear, Bucky Thune would have emerged from a private meeting with Christ and anounced "he gets his Birkenstocks from the same store I do!"
He's alllll yours, moonbats, all yours.
Code enforcement people often misrepresent themselves as Policemen. That slippery little slimball they had from Code Enforcement that was working over at the Force unit always identified himself as with the St. Paul Police when he had contact with landlords. He even wore his silly little badge on his belt like a detective does. These code guys think they're real cops!
We went downtown to city hall today ,with camera rolling...
got swarmed and threatened by deputies...
going on TV tonite...
will post video on web later.
Internal affairs were the only people that seemed bothered and willing to investigate...VERY possible a person WAS impersonating an officer.
Seems like the only thing these cops are good for is threatening landlords and other law abiding people while they let the killers run lose. I don't get it.
Hey Eric how about the DFL controlled city of New Orleans?Must I add the last 60 years.Yeah they really took care of the low income there.Lets see:They had ready and able buses to take the the so called people out of town but chose not to use the buses.They had a levy systen that was as old as Dave Thunes undies that they chose not to fix.They have one of the poorest cities in America.I could go on but I'll keep it short.The Republicans were no where near the city for the last 60 years and its looking really good huh?Oh wait though when you guys fucked up on running the town and Katrina rolled through you called on Bush to wave his magic wand to save the people you've been fucking for the last 60 years.Yep Georges fault.The guy was shitting in his diaper when the dfl started destroying the city!How come most poverty struck citys are all controlled by the dfl?You and your party keep up the good work.
Sid
Hey Sid,
Bush let all of those people sit in the metrodome for damn near a week before he allowed food and water, that had already been delivered to the affected areas, to be distributed. And guess what? Water and other emergency items were delivered to the area on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Supplies began to arrive the day AFTER Katrina hit. That is a FACT! If you don't believe it, check with BellSouth, the company that provided and managed most of the logistical and infastructural repair services immediately folowing the hurricane. But, FEMA would not allow the supplies to be distributed until Bush rolled in, like a hero on a white horse, on FRIDAY. IF you want to place blame, be fair about it.
Bush should have been impeached after the way he and his administration handled Katrina.
I just discovered that the St. Paul City council had the property that the "inspectors" had raided on Tuesday night on the agenda for Wednesday.
WE WERE NEVER NOTICED of this being on the agenda.
How many OTHER people has the City done this to? At the last council meeting I was at there were NUMEROUS properties that the council ordered to have TORN DOWN, and no one spoke objecting.
OH...MY...GOD!
How many times does the City put items on the agenda without noticing the property owner???
This is absolutely CRAZY.
Ok, how come everybody comes here to complain instead of showing up at those city council meetings to protest? Sorry, but NOTHING will be accomplished unless if you start putting your words into action. Besides Bob working hard to report all of the stuff thats happening, Nancy seems to be the only person who goes out on a limb here. How come no one is going to these meetings with her to show her some support? You cannot demand change unless if you are willing to fight for it.
Just an observation.
I see all kinds of people show up at these Council meetings and it makes no difference. Most of the time they look bored even listening to you. Dail up the meeting and watch how they treat Nancy when she goes down there! It's no wonder people don't go......when they know about it that is. Many many people have appeared down there and claimed they didn't get noticed about things. Seems to me that's mentioned in teh lawsuits somewhere too. They don't give people notice on purpose and then make it seem as if the people don't care because they never showed up.
Nancy, why should the city notice anybody, they believed the property to be vacant.
Who were they supposed to notice, Casper the ghost ?
Odds are, you end up blowing it for yourself and you violate your probation.
Good luck in jail you dizzy broad.
You have the vaseline so it shouldn't be to rough of an experience.
Harold s
Maybe you can get that swiftee fella to put some on for you.
Harold s.
Just an observation.
2:07 AM
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Nancy is the fighter that most men wish they could be.
Some of us do show up in support of Nancy,
at the capital and at the city council meeting.
I love how Nancy tells these people the law and they don't know how to act.
Or like Kathy Lantry did, shake her gavel at Nancy like she wanted to hit her with it.
When Nancy bewilder them with her knowledge, they only do one thing.
Call security on her.
Watching Nancy in action is hart warming.
We might not be kicking ass on these crooks every day, but we are kicking ass as silent worriers.
This might just be the beginning of a new era for all government and there employees,
they all will face the piper.
The poor person lost everything, now they will give their life for real justice.
The State Capital is the violators of our rights, they think they are above the law.
No Way!
I woke up this morning and read what Sid had said and thought it made a lot of sense.So what do you say to that Chuck and Eric?
LINDA
There are a lot of people fighting to rid the corruption at city hall. Ricomen are after the city, Nancy is in court with them, there has been another lawsuit filed concerning the citys criminal code inspectors.....yes that's right, CRIMINAL.....civil rights violations are criminal. Jsut cause these people are using the civil part of the law doesn't mean that the criminal element of it won't rear it's head at some time in the future. Banks are also starting to sue the city because of their inspections policies, and lets not forget Morris vs Sax from the Supreme Court. Watch for more lawsuits this summer as the city continues it's assault on property owners and business people. This is far from over.
This all started with an effort to clean up the city that needed it.
Now It's gotten ugly. The city used clumsy and apparently illegal tactics, and is now in a big pickle which will be picked by the ricomen.
I object to Chuck's approach. It looks like he has forced Nancy to lay her cards on the table beforehand, to aid and abet the city's muddling.
Well Linda, I didn't answer because I have shown to be an ignorant bigot in the past on this list and thought him to be gone. He answers a false question.
Let's start with the statement: "How come most poverty struck citys are all controlled by the dfl?"
First, its Democrats. Only in Minnesota do we go by the merged name represented by the acronym DFL.
Second, the best big cities are also ran by Democrats.
2007 Best big cities (more than 250,000 pop) to live in as ranked by CNN/Money Magazine:
1. Chicago
2. Dallas
3. Houston
4. Los Angeles
5. New York
6. Philadelphia
7. Phoenix
8. San Antonio
9. San Diego
10. San Jose
This was based on rankings of:
Affordable housing
Public Schools
Higher Education
Plentiful leisure activities Plentiful cultural options
Job growth
Commute time
Good health care access
Of course a credible magazine that has been tracking and publishing these trends for years has nothing against what Sid says. Of course you can look at each of those cities and find some bad parts but, every pretty woman has to go to bathroom and uses toilet paper for the same reason you do.
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Now about New Orleans and the buses, a lie that is often repeated by the pugnacious Shawn Hannity. Bush is to blame for the following reasons:
*January 2001: Bush appoints Joe Allbaugh, a crony from Texas, as head of FEMA. Allbaugh has no previous experience in disaster management.
*April 2001: Budget Director Mitch Daniels announces the Bush administration's goal of privatizing much of FEMA's work. In May, Allbaugh confirms that FEMA will be downsized: "Many are concerned that federal disaster assistance may have evolved into both an oversized entitlement program...." he said. "Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level."
*2001: FEMA designates a major hurricane hitting New Orleans as one of the three "likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country."
*December 2002: After less than two years at FEMA, Allbaugh announces he is leaving to start up a consulting firm that advises companies seeking to do business in Iraq. He is succeeded by his deputy and former college friend, Michael Brown, who has no previous experience in disaster management and was fired from his previous job for mismanagement.
*March 2003: FEMA is downgraded from a cabinet level position and folded into the Department of Homeland Security. Its mission is refocused on fighting acts of terrorism.
*2003: Under its new organization chart within DHS, FEMA's preparation and planning functions are reassigned to a new Office of Preparedness and Response. FEMA will henceforth focus only on response and recovery.
*Summer 2004: FEMA denies Louisiana's pre-disaster mitigation funding requests. Says Jefferson Parish flood zone manager Tom Rodrigue: "You would think we would get maximum consideration....This is what the grant program called for. We were more than qualified for it."
*June 2004: The Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in New Orleans is slashed. Jefferson Parish emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri comments: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay."
*June 2005: Funding for the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is cut by a record $71.2 million. One of the hardest-hit areas is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes.
*August 2005: While New Orleans is undergoing a slow motion catastrophe, Bush mugs for the cameras, cuts a cake for John McCain, plays the guitar for Mark Wills, delivers an address about V-J day, and continues with his vacation. When he finally gets around to acknowledging the scope of the unfolding disaster, he delivers only a photo op on Air Force One and a flat, defensive, laundry list speech in the Rose Garden.
So: A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. Mitigation budgets for New Orleans were slashed even though it was known to be one of the top three risks in the country. FEMA was deliberately downsized as part of the Bush administration's conservative agenda to reduce the role of government. After DHS was created, FEMA's preparation and planning functions were taken away.
Actions have consequences. No one could predict that a hurricane the size of Katrina would hit this year, but the slow federal response when it did happen was no accident. It was the result of four years of deliberate Republican policy and budget choices that favor ideology and partisan loyalty at the expense of operational competence.
You got anything else?
Eric
It doesn't make any difference who lays what cards on the table when. The facts are cast in stone and people like ricomen and Nancy are going to take them to the mat over it. The only thing the city knows how to do is lie, cheat, decieve, use their thug cops for intimidation, etc. and that's not going to work forever....all it's going to do is dig the hole deeper for the city. There's going to be a very ugly ending to all of this and the city is going to be bankrupt, that will be the legacy of this City Council.
Swiftee is going to have a field day with that first sentence of mine.
I should say that I have shown Sid to be ignorant and a bigot. He pulls things out of his ass (or FOX NEWS, same difference) and posts them as fact.
Eric
11:48
You forgot about destroying evidence and trying to throw people in jail on false criminal charges. This city is real piece of work.
Eric -
Don't worry - no one thinks you're a bigot.
Jonathan
Nancy, I'm and a-hole? You want to send of angry posts full of name calling? OK
Crazy Hag,
You have pistol-whipped us with your legal narcissism and bragged post after post on your knowledge of the law and how you've got these public employees, judges and lawyers over a barrel with your superior knowledge and skills.
Now you need help?
You'll have to excuse me if I pause to stick my neck out for you.
You have been unwilling to listen to sound or safe advice in the past - not just from me or Chuck but from others who actually agree with your cause. You only want to hear how to 'sock it to them' or expose how dumb everyone is, not how to even figure what angle may be best for your end goal.
Now shut your fucking trap and listen:
1. There are a couple of real cops assigned to Inspections. They are not ex-cops, or rent-a-cops or half wannabe cops. They are Saint Paul Police Officers trained at the academy and spent years on the street. I actually think one is a detective.
So, for the know-it-all who suggested that they aren't cops, know that its possible that they can be and its legal.
2. You've already gone to IA and reported this. They will follow through. Stay with them for updates. The Sheriff doesn't have jurisdiction- don't argue charter with me, just accept the Sheriff's Office doesn't have jurisdiction over inspections in the city.
3. Call the council member and have your daughter talk with him and tell her story and ask for a follow up meeting.
4. Be sure she had a right to be in there. If that's debatable, then you'll have to win that debate first.
Until you get names and numbers, that's pretty much all you can do for now. Try to have your daughter take care of this as you have proven to be unreasonable and hostile toward city employees- don't argue with me, just understand that's how it is.
There. Now get off my ass.
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On 'your people' helping 'my people' and 'bleeding for my people'. Let me tell you about 'my people'.
On the Native side, we didn't invite 'your people' here and the reservations we were sent to were not the prime property of the time. Screw off.
On the black side, we didn't request to come here and be put into permanent servitude. I know that's hard to believe but its true. We didn't ask for it. But lets not dwell on ancient history.
After slavery, this country accepted apartheid-like Jim Crow norms that put blacks as second class citizens where their freedom and life was at the whim of whites. Yet, my relative went off to fight and free Cuba in 1898 from Spain to return to a country marred in even more racism toward them. In WWI, 'my people' went off to the European front to protect American freedoms, only to return to find they can't partake in much of that freedom. They went off to protect freedom and, deliver tyranny to hell in WWII, to only return and find family members murdered and land stolen due to the southern Jim Crow norms. Oh, the greatest generation weren't so inclusive to 'my people' on the GI Bill, homeloans, saving farms, help for education and such.
So when the late 50's and 60's rolled around, 'my people' decided that the Constitution should be for all Americans and five or six generations born here is enough to make you a full citizens.
So thanks for all of your 'blood shedding' but, you didn't give us shit. By right of birth in this country, we had those rights and by the history of our contributions to protecting this country, even when we were not afforded luxuries such as equality, we earned them.
Since nobody else will, go screw yourself Nancy.
Eric
This is fun! Although I have always felt that it was unfair to pick on the mentally challenged no matter how much the ask for it Eric.
Jonathan
Nancy Said:
"My family personally fought and stood for the rights of "your people" and the native Americans.
I guess it is okay for "your people" to have "my people" shed their blood when it comes to protecting "your people's" rights."
Nancy, what history books have you been reading? They must have been "fiction" books. Next time, try the "non-fiction" section of the library. What wars are you referring to? The Civil War? Do you honestly believe that the Civil War was about "freeing" the slaves? FYI: The Civil War was about preserving the Union, NOT freeing the slaves.
Now, tell us which war that your people fought in and shed their blood for to protect the rights of Native Americans? I know of none.
Did I mention that I am white?
Learn what your talking about Eric. There are NO cops assigned to DSI.....they have been reassigned several months ago. Call one of your asshole politician friends and check it out.
Huh.
Until I read all of this racial bigotry I hadn't suspected that this website was populated by a majority of Democrats.
Don't be hatin', people. Calm down and have a nice cup of kool-aid.
And Nancy? Why not just move the frickin' dumpster, for God's sake?
what guy?
Swiftee,
Quit dipping in my kool-aid when you don't know the flavor.
There is no "law" that says I can't have a dumpster. There is no "law" that says how long a dumpster can be in my driveway. I asked the city council to tell me the "law" that they are trying to enforce..and they did not know.
How's this Swiftee. The City says you can't have a motorcycle...no law...they just say so. What are you going to do when they come to your house I take your motorcycle?
Is there a veteran that posts on this blog?
Can you answer the question?
Did you EVER fight for this country, for our rights, for ALL of us? And when you served the people, even to the point of your blood being shed, did you do so for ALL of us? Black, white, red, greeen and purple colored skin Americans?
Eric,
You are the perfect representation of a proper Uncle Tom, fully indoctrinated by the DFL. You believe that I should sit down, shut up and roll over when my rights are violated...just like you? Just like the "good blacks" have been taught to do?
Citizens that actually knew how to stand and defend each other, (like Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.) would be ashamed at your divisive bigoted rhedoric.
I called you out for the phony that you are.
You respond with the only weapon "your people", that don't want to BE CITIZENS is left with, vulgar language.
Nancy you're not being reasonable. Even you have to admit that a dumpster is an eyesore.
They're necessary for big construction jobs, but really, to have one sitting (out in front?) at a house for almost a year is a bit much. Plus, you've admitted that it started te get used for non-construction garbage which is just nasty.
Listen. As I've said before, I'm fundamentally on your side; I love to see people fight city hall. But I like to see them fight a winnable fight.
You can pick any fight you choose, hon. Best of luck.
ps: You're right, I don't know what flavor your kool-aid is (I didn't notice that you were engaged in the racist Democrat poo-flinging contest going on in here, so that comment really wasn't directed your way).
Calling me an Uncle Tom? You're not black, I'm not obligated to give a damn about you. I don't.
First, it only matters when other blacks call blacks that. You are in no position to put it out there with any credibility.
Second, your problem is with government, DFL or Republican doesn't matter, its the point they do what YOU think they should be doing.
Third, you're so insignificant to me that your words mean nothing. You're a lonely old woman who can't keep her mouth shut or a man around so, you lash out.
My rhetoric has not been divisive just the opposite. You're the crazy c*nt that started with the your people doing all this shit for my people. I reminded you that my people earned those rights on their own. You can't even handle your local problems, how can you take credit for doing anything for anyone.
You can't even bitch at us/me without trying to be a know-it-all lecturing us. How about you try being a citizen and follow through on the process before bitching about it? At least let it fail you before you tear it down.
You called me and Chuck out. Where are all of your backers on here in this? They get a pass for anonymously supporting you with empty rhetoric nutty old bag? Where's your RICOmen helping you out? Where's Leslie?
I'm the kind of black person you hate Nancy, the kind that doesn't need your backwards logic or handouts. The kind that can fend for himself. Makes you feel a little inadequate doesn't it?
Good luck with the City, I'll be watching.
Eric
Nancy Said:
Is there a veteran that posts on this blog?
Can you answer the question?
Did you EVER fight for this country, for our rights, for ALL of us? And when you served the people, even to the point of your blood being shed, did you do so for ALL of us? Black, white, red, greeen and purple colored skin Americans?"
C'mon Nancy! Don't try to spin it, we all know how you meant what you said! You were saying that YOUR people fought for blacks and Native Americans SPECIFICALLY!
Don't try to generalize it, now. And, if you insist on doing so, then that means that Eric's ancestors fought for your rights. And, if that is true, then why did you say:
"I guess it is okay for "your people" to have "my people" shed their blood when it comes to protecting "your people's" rights.
But we we get attacked you say and do nothing.
TYPICAL "black" (and DFL) mentality...it is ALL about you and not about US as Citizens."?
And, I did not know til now that the problem you are having is because you have a friggin dumpster in your front yard that has been there for over a year. If I were your neighbor I'd call the city 10 times a day every day until they forced you to remove it. Have some respect and consideration for your neighbors.
Hey 4:20
Here's a crash course in Civil War History for you!
QUOTE:
Lincoln made it clear that the North was fighting the war to preserve the Union. On August 22, 1862, just a few weeks before signing the Proclamation and after he had already discussed a draft of it with his cabinet in July, he wrote a letter in response to an editorial by Horace Greeley of the New York Tribune which had urged complete abolition:
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.
I'd have to defer to Nancy on the dumpster thing cause I don't know all the facts, but I believe I know enough to know the city is wrong. She got the dumpster to do major repairs on her property.....something the city claims it wants....something Eric and Chuck complain about all the time with these property owners who want to do nothing. Then they give her shit about the vacant buidling thing and she appeals it which means all the vacant building stuff is stayed until the appeal is over....which it IS NOT! So with all the orders stayed, and for Chuck & Eric, that means stopped....she tries to get a permit to do the work she is supposed to do, but guess what? The city choses to break the law and not give her the permit. SO the appeal goes on and the dumster sits. What's she supposed to do with it? Reutrn it and spend another $500.00 on one when the city decides they want to comply with the law and give her a permit?
Nancy's been having a very public fight, and she raises a number of constitutional issues. I wonder if this is one the Pacific Legal Foundation might get interested in.
All of those men went into all of those wars for all of our rights to live under the Constitution of the United States. Private property rights are the foundation of all the rights we have today thanks to all those men who fought and sacrificed. They did it so we wouldn't have a NAZI style Government here. Naturally Eric and Chuck are going to to obviscate this because they support the NAZI tactics being used by the city of St. Paul. Think about it....the more problems with people in the neighborhoods the more need for Eric and his phoney neighborhood group who can't think for themselves long enough to call the Police when there's a problem. They have to call some shit suckin political something to find out what they should do. The more bad problems in the neighborhoods is meat and potatoes on Repke's plate cause he gets to to the redevelopment work that these same worthless neighbors want done. And lets not forget Kathy Lantry, the more unhappy there are in her ward, the more complaints she can get in her office so she can build up her worthless ego slandering and going after law abiding people so she can have the same worthless pieces of shit vote for her again. These politicians have no desire whatsoever to stop crime or any other problem that's common to most urban areas. It's their bread & butter. They get power and control from the problems they refuse to take care of. DFL'rs is the politicaly correct name for them.....communist how they're know in conservative circles and they're out looking every day how to take control of you, your life and everything you have. Throw them out of office next election and you'll have a much better life.
"Where are all of your backers on here in this? They get a pass for anonymously supporting you with empty rhetoric nutty old bag? Where's your RICOmen helping you out? Where's Leslie?"
I believe Les is out educating the neighborhood as to what's going on and ricomen are devloping the evidence that in time everyone will use to hang the city for their criminal acts. What more do you want? Sure nice of Bob Johnson to spread the word for all to see!
8:35 you are correct.
But it goes deeper than the issue of WHY the dumpster is there.
Swiftee I didn't know you were a socialist.
What if the "neighbors" decide your motorcycle is ugly and offends them, and so they can just call the City and have your ugly bike taken away?
I guess YOUR rights to your ugly property is different than mine.
Oh...Eric, let's use this analogy with black folks.
The white folks say the blacks are ugly, wear saggy pants, have nappy haired and are "trash".
So, is is "okay" to call DSI to "get the trash out of the neighborhood", right?
Oops..that's what happened in St. Paul that caused the whole RICO lawsuit.
And Eric, I always find it fascinating how quickly people that have no intelligent argument quickly resort to personal insults.
Eric, Chuck and
other a--holes and Democrats
Did you know Hitler was also part Jewish.
The way this city is run, you could think that not all Hitler's
family are accounted for.
Lets vote for Jesse, he say he is honest and he was a Navy Seal.
Best of all, he is "NOT" a Democrat or a Republican.
10:41 aka Nancy
FYI: Jewish is NOT a race. It is a religion!!! Get an education and get back to us...
"And Eric, I always find it fascinating how quickly people that have no intelligent argument quickly resort to personal insults."
Yeah like talking down to a whole race of people because you think they owe you their God-given freedom?
Do as Nancy say or you are worthless thankless Uncle Tom shits! Is that about right Nancy?
I feel sorry for your daughter. You have taken a problem that is easily solved and made a grand case out of it for your own self serving goals- not the goal of helping your daughter.
May 2006 was two years ago, what's the problem?
11:03
I was quoting from a poster by the name of Froggy from a while back.
And I was making an illustration of what certain white people in St. Paul have done to "clean up their neighborhoods" of what THEY perceive as "trash".
Are you really going to say that are ARE NOT white people with this attitude?
Dang...the crackers around here are really dense. Get some yeast and lighten up.
11:07
I did not post at 10:41. I always us my name when I post...unlike you.
And I suggest you do some research yourself. And talk with some "Jewish" people about what "their" definition is of the word "Jew".
Isn't this great?
We can't even decide on the proper method to racially insult others because we now are arguing the Hitler went after the "Jews" because he was attempting the genocide of a religion and not a race.
Wow...just because someone has a keyboard doesn't mean they have a brain.
Are you really going to say that are ARE NOT white people with this attitude?
Wow...just because someone has a keyboard doesn't mean they have a brain.
Yes, Kettle, there are people (Pots) who think like that.
You really are kinda mental, aren't you Nancy?
Nancy is calling it like is I think. The St Paul neighborhoods are full of bigots who use the City Council and code inspections to target, harrass, and get rid of black renters they do not like. That's a fact loud mouth.
with regard to personal insults, it's the DFL people that use this tactic much more than anyone else.
"And I suggest you do some research yourself. And talk with some "Jewish" people about what "their" definition is of the word "Jew".
Honey, I've done my research...like I said, you need to spend more time in the "non-fiction" section of the library.
You are very condescending for someone with such limited intelligence and understanding of the world you live in.
Oh, another FYI:
It was the NAZIS who deemed "Jewish" as a race, NOT the Jews:
Who did the Nazis define as Jews?
Immediately following the Nuremberg Laws in 1935, the Nazis issued the official definition of a Jew. According to German law, anyone with three Jewish grandparents was a Jew, as was anyone with two Jewish grandparents. In addition, anyone married to a Jewish person or who had one Jewish parent was also considered a Jew in the eyes of the law."
ON THE CONTRARY:
Being Jewish is not a race
Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.
Being Jewish is not a nationality
Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.
AND:
(One of countless sources: http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm)
Are Jews a Race?
In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.
But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.
But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.
Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.
Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).
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Nancy Said:
"Wow...just because someone has a keyboard doesn't mean they have a brain."
WE FINALLY AGREE ON SOMETHING. BE CAREFUL NOT TO SPILL YOUR KOOL AID ON YOUR KEYBOARD, NANCY.
I wish I could say i was shocked that Nancy is using (unsuccessfully of course) the same words and tactics of the Nazis.
I think Nancy should know that the Nazis killed lesbians too. She may want to think about that before imitating them.
"It was the NAZIS who deemed "Jewish" as a race, NOT the Jews:
Who did the Nazis define as Jews?"
Why stop there? Why don't you tell us how the very first thing the NAZIs went after was the homes? How about how they enlisted the neighbors to snitch people out and how about how they held innocent people responsible for the actions of others just like the city of St Paul is doing?
Swiftee is stuck on a trash dumpster when this is the crux of Nancy message.
*They got out of the truck and approached the house, yelling at my daughter that she had to leave the house, that it was a registered vacant building.
They don't have a right to tell Nancy's daughter to leave.
eric and chuck,
You two can stand up for the city that is ok. You have rights to do so. And I have right to infor my
friends about the bull shit the city is trying to pull.
When the city do wrong to people
its every one rights to stand up
to them. I have called AG and
asked them to enforced the state law. They said all we do is lawsuits. You need to call the county. I called susan G. office
and they said we need police report to act. The city police
said that we do not handle that stuff.
I am going to call the sheriff office today to file a report with
them. That the city of St.Paul is
broking state law.
The code enforcement program is wrong. And we all tell them that.
it takes one person to take away someone rights. In Nancy case
the city is doing wrong to her.
The more she tell them that fact.
The more they mess with her because she does not live in St.Paul.
What hell is bullshit about civil war and uncle tom shit.
That is the past not in today problems. My were in miltray.
My dad was in WWII. My brother
in srevice during viet war. I did my time too. My family have serve
for you people. And you tell me
that I have no rights.
I say to go screw yourself. And the city council can go screqw themself. You do not change the law to mess with people.
That is what St.Paul did. And they know that they are in the wrong. That way they hide and
called people crazy. So, noone will listner to them.
When you breaked the law you need to pay. Do time or with money.
I am looking at what the city did to landlords and other homowners.
And makes me piss because I will to
pay for it. That is high taxes.
You all should be piss too.
When comes to pay they will get by
saying we did the right thing for the time. To bad we were wrong.
Lets look at what the city to Nancy. first not letting her fix her roof. Not giving a permit.
then telling her need move the trash. The sending some inspector to force her off her property. That is three law that were broken. Ask anyone in the building trades how crook the city.
At leip and sdi.
Chuck you said that you are builder and you have no problems .
You are full of shit. The only reason that you not have problems is because of buddy Dave T.
If you had work for living. You could not makeit. My family lived in this for more than 100 Years.
My great great grandfather would go down city hall tell them that
they are wrong and need to stop.
Maybe eric and chuck should help
nancy. We need to help each other
Nancy, you are not worth arguing with. And, where did you get those 19th century terms you are using?
Good Morning dfl.
Where did you leave the key to the city.
Bostrom gave it to his son.
Bostrom, Lantry and Thune has to go, its time for some NEW BLOOD running our town.
I see about Alice K. and how W.S.P. used their authority to ruin her life.
People like Eric and Chuck deserves to lose all they niched out of life, just to see how it feels to get screwed
by these elected officials in the dfl party.
Nancy, I'll say this too. I gave you a course of action although I knew you wouldn't take it. First step. When things go wrong there then you can start the process of complaints.
If you inbreeds can read, you'll see that I rarely defend the city in so much as I go after you as individuals. I go after Nancy, Froggy, George Anonymous 1 to 100 because you say the dumbest shit that doesn't make sense. For instance, the guy that's going to call the county Sheriff because of what the city did- why? Does he even understand how government works? No. The course of action I suggested is exactly what I would do. If I have to play departments or council members against each other to get a solution- I'd do it.
For the jackass that has it all together on my angle, go back to research, I don't serve on the District Council anymore. Even I have my level of bullshit I can suffer before taking a break.
Say what you want about my mother Nancy but, she raised three pretty good kids who can stand up for themselves, take care of their families and move things when they need something done. Sounds like she did better than you.
I'm not going to re-hash pre-WWII Europe or the Civil Rights movement. You may not see yourself as a bigot, but your words betray you. You have done nothing for no one but bring more angst, and frustration to every situation you've been in. I feel sorry for your daughter. She gets no assistance or breaks because of YOU. You Nancy.
Eric
I don't think anyone has a problem with you standing up for yourself Eric, the problem people have is that you refuse to stand up for anyone else when they're getting screwed to death with illegal actions on the citys part. You pretend to care, but in the end, your just like all the other DFL assholes and if it doesn't bother you or has a benifet to you, then the hell with the others as they are just slumlords or trouble makers or whtever. Your disgusting!
Here's the video of what happened at city hall on Wednesday:
Eric said: "I'm the kind of black person you hate Nancy, the kind that doesn't need your backwards logic or handouts. The kind that can fend for himself."
WTF?? A self sufficient black man?
Better watch yourself Eric, St. Paul is a DFL stronghold and to a Democrat, them's fighting words coming from any racial minority...especially right now, in the middle of pandering season.
Better take it back and start complaining about social program cutbacks like you've been taught.
Just a comment on why the City tries to get people to leave buildings that they have tagged as unfit for habbitation, guess what Nancy (or someone like Nancy) would do if their daughter got injured while living in the house?
Come on, you know what happens then don't you? They would sue the City for not enforsing the placcard and allowing their poor child for being in the building!!
How dare the City allow this poor innocent child to live in those conditions! They would demand the Mayor be removed from office and everyone in DSI should be fired for allowing those injuries to occur!
You know it. Because that shit happens just as much as the silliness Nancy pulls.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck,
How many times do I have to say this.
The administrative order that the house is a "registered vacant building" has been appealed to the district court.
When an administrative order is under appeal it is AUTOMATICALLY STAYED.
Meaning...this house is NOT a registered vacant building unless and until the COURT says it is.
So the City is trying enforce an adminstrative order theat DOES NOT EXIST.
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