An Example for the City of Saint Paul.. One person can make a differance!
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Hi All,
The leadership of this City would prefer the poor black families moved on to the suburbs or even further away like Faribault or Zumbrota. A place where they will likely be subjected to institutional racism and bigotry.
The City of Saint Paul does not have a reputation of investing in the poor black neighborhoods. They destroy them. Replace them with middle to upper middle class people.
The local black leadership is silenced through grants and other funding that keeps their non- profits a float. They sit by and are voiceless for their people who need them the most.
The black leadership of Saint Paul should have demanded investments in these neighborhoods and people. Instead they sit by like sheep and watch as their people are moved from the city through a strangle hold on funding and programs that could make a difference in these neighborhoods and these peoples lives.
Bob you hit the nail on the head. All many of the non profits care about is their funding. they refuse to take a stand against their donors which makes them nothing but greedy hypocrites.
You're talking a lot of crap about stuff you have no clue about. The anger comes from me seeing these leaders LOOSE their funding and access because they do speak out all of the time.
Your blanket statement of the black community shows that you are an ass- a dumb uninformed one. But in your mind, you have the superior answers and knowledge so when they don't come to you, you automatically know they're not doing anything.
Get the hell off of your computer and take a walk to visit some of these organizations and you'll see that money is NOT flowing to them like the WHITE non-profits. These churches and organizations can barely keep the doors open. When was the last time you looked at the books of the white organizations who claim an expertise in helping the poor and minorities?
Here's your chance Bob to name the names of the black organizations that are not doing anything but collecting checks.
Go ahead.
Eric M.
In St.Paul if a black family gathers on their porch, deck or front yard the neighbors call in a complaint and the property will be considered a nuisince property. It doesn't matter if its the ethnic background of these families to gather as they do the city does not allow it because the neighborhood block clubs aka BITCHES don't like it!
Bob - let's see what happened in this story. These people were renting from private landlords and the state government took tax payers money and built a new housing development across the road from these privately owned rental properties. And, now they are going to subsidize the rent so that the renters will move out of the privately owned property.
I SMELL A RICO SUIT!!!
Kinda what they are accusing Saint Paul of Bob.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Eric said- Your blanket statement of the black community shows that you are an ass- a dumb uninformed one. But in your mind, you have the superior answers and knowledge so when they don't come to you, you automatically know they're not doing anything.
Bob response- Eric, you really need anger management classes. That anger may get you into trouble someday. Your anger clouds your ability to read and reason.
I NEVER said the black leadership wasn't doing anything. Their just not doing what they should or could. And your statement is in error. I said nothing of the black community as a whole. I spoke solely of the black leadership. You and other black leaders think you are doing your people a favor through deconcentrating poverty in the city, your nut's!
What did the black leadership do to stop it's people from losing Rondo, Selby/Dale, now Frog Town and the East Side? A BIG FAT NOTHING!
Eric said- Here's your chance Bob to name the names of the black organizations that are not doing anything but collecting checks.
Go ahead.
Bob's response- for years and years the black leadership of Saint Paul has sat ideally by as the young black brothers and sister were shaken down by the police because of the color of their skin, and black leadership said nothing until the Somalia leaders spoke out just a few months back.
Oh, I can't forget to mention that I also made an issue of this at a neighborhood meeting long before the black leadership held a news conference about this issue. I brought 5 minorities with me to tell their story at this neighborhood meeting.
Then of coarse there is NEIL MURRAY on his Sunday show back about a week ago with the City beauracrats sugar coating the extremes of code enforcement. To quote a black family member watching the show with me. He's a freakin OREO!
And I agree there is many white non-profits playing with their funds. North East Neighborhood Development Company is one, as it was shown right here at A Democracy in the Mike Taube letters.
So is the URBAN LEAGUE.. Do they really need Limousines to be transported in at anytime for any occasion?
We all know how the funds were misappropriated at Frog Town Alliance. This organization was run by a former Urban League executive.
I am sitting on a great big pile of dirt on numerous non profits. When I am through with this RICO stuff the non profits are next.
I should also mention this.. Since I said I have the dirt on many non-profits. There has been numerous attempts to access my comcast account by unknown individuals. I even caught someone running off with my comcast bill from my trash can.
I have conferred with comcast security and the ONLY way someone can access anything in my account is by going down to comcast and showing them MY photo ID..
I also want people to know I photo copy and delete all sensitive information sent to me. I store my sensitive information in a secure locked facility that specializes in maintaining document integrity.
In the event something should happen to me I have taken steps to assure this information is made public.
Chuck, this story is so far away from the basis of the RICO suit's it is like comparing water and soil.
These people helped themselves and the government helped them. No one was hurt. The landlord is still free to rent that shack out. And it was reported there were repairs made to these shacks. I also seen the documentary of this program on the documentary channel last night.
Here, the government throws innocent people on the street and victimizes a private property owner to the point they have no rental property to rent ever again.
All in the name of appeasing some Gladys Kravitz type. Usual some bigoted white neighbor who don't like black folks hanging out on the front porch.
Well Eric, let me turn your queston around on you. Tell the name of one of these saintly non profits you speak of that has taken the time to even give a cursory look into the allegations of the Federal lawsuits? You can't, and you can't cause they don't give a damn. I just called one of the plaintiffs and asked them.
By golly Repke is right. This RICO corruption is spreading like cancer in our community....and this is coming from a guy who is connected and in the know! Wow....they don't even try and hide it any longer.
Bob
Kepp up the good work. I enjoy reading here.
Repke constanly tries to "minimize" what is going on in the city with his constant remarks about "tin foil" and his condescending use of the "Rico" word whenever he can. All he is doing is trying to distract the real issue. I personally know one of the landlords in that lawsuit, I have seen the evidence and twice had the opportunity to talk to some of the others in the lawsuit. If this gets to a jury, I'll guarantee you that the city is going to dread the day they crossed paths with these people, and that goes for the city council as well. The city has not a clue what they really have for evidence, and these guys are sitting out in Bloomington laughing their asses off thinking about the day they finally let the city in on what they are up against. In th meantime Bob, keep up the good work.
7:59 - they have that double, double secret information that is really, really going to surprise the City... boy I've been hearing that a long time.
And Bob - this exactly what your people were screaming about as Housing 5000. Neighborhood organizations and the City building new housing. In Saint Paul your guys said this was the benefactor in the RICO suits. Tell me how when it is done in Virginia you think it is somehow diferent.
The only diference is you don't know the guys who were renting these houses.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Yeah Yeah Yeah Repke. You've been hearing it a long time cause you're hearing it from your city hall buddies. The last "delivery" was a box full of stuff instead of the usual mainila envolope.....bad stuff Repke.....the kind of stuff your buddies want to keep hidden in that secret room they have in the basement of the courthouse.
So you didn't answer my question Bob. That's fine allow me to take your own answer and show the difference between you an I.
You stated that you brought five minorities to talk about their experience at a neighborhood association. So you brought them to tell their story and complain about some non-action you weren't getting. Me? Since my goal and experience is increasing representation, I would have ran those five minorities for seats on that neighborhood board. Then, they're at the table and can start doing what needs to be done and, they have voting bloc of five which is enough to make some real changes.
There's a few ways to handle things, the best way is to get involved with the organization that is not producing and start the overhaul. Then people are being served.
Your way, complaining and pointing at things have yet to produce any tangible results. Except giving you yet another story to post here. But, that's what this blog seems to be about, bitching and complaining about the city. It has nothing to do with seeking out desired results.
Eric M.
Eric says he would have ran people for the board and then proceeds to run Bob down for what Eric sees as "inactions," but doesn't the first action have to do with making people aware of the problems? Isn't that what Bob is doing?
By the way Eric, you haven't mentioned the name of the one person who has tried to do anything about the city's assault on the poor and their housing in the city. Did you forget?
Hi Eric,
For years the property rights advocates tried to work out their differences with the City. All they got was condescending attitudes and tough talk from arrogant City bureaucrats. Example with a pointed finger- "YOU WILL COMPLY" Someone should have slapped Kelly's mouth when he said this!
The talk is over, now it is time for retribution and this blog and my NEWS LETTER is the instrument of retribution.
You say I and others are just complaining here and you insinuate that nothing will come of it. We'll SEE! We're complaining to the citizens of Saint Paul who will vote this year on the City council. I promise to get as many council members canned as possible!
Right now I have the funds to get Helgen, Lantry, and Thune canned. The funds are growing, thousands of dollars for distribution of my News Letter to invite people to this blog.
And if the bunch that replaces them doesn't play ball and be fair to the low income citizens of this City, I will see to it their careers are ended too!
And Oh yes I am already working with people on the next Mayoral race. GOODBYE COLEMAN!
Eric, I am working with people,,,, behind the scenes to evoke change.It just isn't with ANYONE in your party or your circles. I am working with Republicans and Independents. Because they are listening and the Democrats still have their ears in their ass so we haven't been able to negotiate any resolutions to our difference. And why bother anyway there is no trust left concerning these morons.
Look at that phony ADHOC committee, look at that phony West Saint Paul City Inspector used to inspect Jessamine. This is the kind of thing we can expect from Democrats. Treachery, deceit, and skulduggery! Is this anyway to conduct responsible governing? These morons on the council and in the Mayors office have destroyed confidence and trust in local government. They have to GO!
My blog is generating funds to get the word out. OH YES THIS BLOG IS A CASH COW and I don't use the money for personal expenses, EVER! The money will go to building participation in this blog.
This little blog will be respected by many and feared by some after these up coming elections.
Public exposure does evoke change Eric!
IF ANYONE OUT THERE WANTS TO DONATE MONEY TO BUILDING PARTISCIPATION IN THIS TOWN HALL MEETING CONTACT ME!
That ADHOC committee was a joke. They used the fire on Sherburne Ave to come up with a soloution to a problem they had not yet defined and then patted themselves on the back for a job well done. Meanwhile they never addressed a lot of the issues that were uncovered in their inforamtion gathering process prior to the ADHOC committee getting started. Typical St Paul where nothing is real and everything is made to look like something it is not.
Here's your story Bob:
You only care about property owners, and you use the plight of the poor to continue to prop up some, i repeat, some of these slumlords.
I haven't heard one person on here talk about some of the conditions that these places are in.
I only hear that you don't want the inspections. Well, poor people are less likely to complain about certain conditions as their options are few. Inspections are needed there. Those are the people I care about and will work to bounce every slumlord out of the county who doesn't beleive that poor people have dignity too.
I've got a new construction two blocks away. This house has a concrete slab where a garage should be, they never finished. There are no back stairs, just a five foot drop. The front stairs have a lean that I would not risk. Yet the family who lives there is big and can't find many other places to live so they cope with it.
We got another family in the lower Payne area that has gone without hot water for months, except for spiget that's not in the bathroom.
We've got another one where the owner has boarded it up and every few weeks there are people in there who use drugs and just crash there. It's not a good scene for the neighbors.
Now what have you done about similar incidents? Or are all property owners poor persecuted people?
You have yet to call out those who ride on the coat tails of the good people- and it really is the good renters who pay the cost.
You care about the poor? You care about those without a voice? Then use that money to join me on setting some standards in this town.
I've been running campaigns for years. If you don't have about 250,000 total for those three races, your candidates won't get anywhere and the only thing the is accomplished is you get your paper out. A little self promotion I see.
Anonymous:
Get a name if you want me to take the time to make you look ridiculous based on your question.
Eric M.
Taube sure was right about NENDC wasn't he? That letter of accusations sure went somewhere didn't it. The feds investigated, right? The state investigated, right? The non-profit's funding was pulled, right?
Publishing the crap he wrote is libelous to say the least. You did publish it, didn't you? He didn't post it himself. Did you, as a responsible citizen, check it out? In any way? Make a call? Find anyone to corroborate his story?
Taube didn't even work for NENDC.
Bob, you can't even keep the names of organizations straight, how can you be expected to help anyone?
Repke maybe a DFL hack, but at least he can keep his facts straight and he never pretends to be something he's not.
Eric I don't think anyone has ever stated that there are not some slumlords in the county,what about the rental property owners that happen to have a bad tenant that caused damage to the home then was required to do a complete new home code compliance and that is not the whole issue, what about some of the other cases where the conditions were lied about and fabricated in order for the city to throw the family out to the streets then issue a complete new home code compliance then add to it as it was nearly completed and then tear down the home or try to force the homeowner to sell to a friend of a city official?
I supppose in your world you don't beleive it happened, well I have news for you it is reality and when the evidence is presented and the facts are proven what will you think of these city officials that in your mind can do no wrong? Be prepared because the facts and evidence will be layed out in black and white to the public soon in the federal court.
12:08, so I confused Chucks company with the other one. The names closely resemble each other.
Sorry for any misunderstanding Chuck. I have stated here many times I felt Chuck was an honest business man.
And for your information Jonathan that Taube letter was made widely public long before I ever got it. It wasn't like I pulled the seal on confidential information.
I would just love it if some asshole would try to shut me up with a lawsuit. Then we could explore in a court of law the issues I speak of here.
Nice language Bob. You are losing it buddy. Everybody else seems to be keeping to a higher level of decorum but you.
12:43, Your so far above me I can't see you with binoculars. Get a life!
My profile veiwed stats are over 4000, they didn't get that way taking advice from anonymous commenters like you.
Bob - never said it wasn't available in the public. I just asked if you ever checked it out. Never hurts your credibility if you actually verify the information you publish. Anyone can say something but if you publish letters as fact without checking it out it could be construed as libel.
That would be hard to prove since the law tends to favor free speech and the person suing you needs to demonstrate that you either knew it was false or you intended to injure the party you were defaming.
I just wish you would look into things you say. This has become a popular place to look for information on the City and you should make a good faith effort to research the information you publish. Don't you have some obligation to check it out?
Bob, I have an idea. Do a man on the street with a video camera and approach black people on the street and ask them if they know who their local black leadership is.
Do this in the RED ZONES and also ask them if they think the city is running blacks out of the neighborhood.
1:00 said- I just wish you would look into things you say. This has become a popular place to look for information on the City and you should make a good faith effort to research the information you publish. Don't you have some obligation to check it out?
Bob's response-
Yes I do have a responsibility to check out information I receive.
Sometimes that can be very difficult. Many people are fearful of retaliation from others so they email me anonymously and the sources to verify information can and is often thin.
Other times like with the RICO suits I get information directly from the courts. This is an easy one for me since it is public information.
I have spoken with citizens and heard their complaints personally and I have a good judge of character. In other words I know when someone is pulling my leg.
To consider some of what Eric has said here. I do not attend any meetings among the black leadership in Saint Paul. This isn't saying I am not in touch with the black community. I am very much a part of a segment of the black community.
Eric claims there is good things within local black leadership going on that never get the media attention it deserves. I want to believe this. I wish I were more informed about what is being done because the people of color I know don't have a clue either. They only know I have spoken out publicly for them.
Eric has issue with me calling out the black leadership. I can understand this.
What I don't understand is why not kick and stomp and make waves to get what is right, done?
The black community is short on funding to help their brothers and sisters to over come some social ills they should insist the City wasn't wasting money on a precinct that cost as much as a small castle.
We need to get our priorities straight in this City and big beautiful buildings do not make a community. The people do! We need to invest in our HOME GROWN people. I'm not talking about investing in transients who transplanted here. I'm talking about our homeboys and girls right here.
Bob, keep up the good work. I have FAITH in you. You know that when you go to get the facts, sometimes the facts are not the truth. When I watch the secular, world-view and sanitized "news", I find another version and a more truthful exposure by going where few are given the option or the knowledge to go.
Bob they would invest in an immagrant from Somolia, the middle east or VeitNam before they invested in home grown people.
I seen your comment under the new precient thread. I have to agree with you.
Johnathan!
KISS MY ASS!
Póg Mo Thoin
I THINK KISSING ASS IS WHAT JONATHAN DOES BEST! WATCH OUT HE MIGHT ENJOY IT!
This is my 3rd comment here in 7 months. I read this blog several times a week.
On the front page scroll to the bottom, it states-
"On A Truth Seeking Mission"
I think this sums it up. Bob has created a space where anyone in the City can come here and say something is or isn't true.
There has never been anything like this in Saint Paul.
I love it!
All you people are something else.
Eric is going to find out what condition those slumlords places are in when the lawsuit goes to trial cause they had them inspected by a real inspector and have "date stamped" photos to prove it. Not only that, they deliberatly set up certain inspectors and then had their own inspectors go in afterwards. You're in for one hell of a suprise Eric! You're going to get the chance to pay for it too by the way when the judgements come down.
Hey Eric.....you want to talk about the conditions of some of these places how about if we start with the house at 14 Jessamine.
Could we see the photos again Bob so people can see what this piece of shit thinks is a slumlord. The guy hasn't got a brain in his head.
you can call me 9:40 Eric, and your refusal to provide the name because I don't use a name just validates my thoughts about you just trying to get points with empty words. You can't name the name because there are none and you know and rather than admit, you want to play your childish little games and acting like because someone is not going to give you their name, you'll keep the informaton that could make you look good in the argument to yourself.
Hey Bob, to reiterate: I have FAITH in you! If I was lying beaten and bleeding in the street and either you or a councilperson were there to rescue me, I'd choose you. I wouldn't want to be taken advantage of or have my pocket/purse pilfered. I trust you. I know your heart and your soul. You are a leader among many who are given the title but do nothing to uphold it! Cry out loud and never give up!
I'll stand with Bob and the slumlords any day over the likes of Repke and Eric. At Least Bob and his fiollowing are "REAL" people with "REAL" feelings and "REAL" beliefs and values. Keep it up Bobby!
14 Jessemine was a shame. I answered that question back when it was in the posts here. I feel for Nancy and what she went through. I'm simply stating that there are other cases where the landlord doesn't give a shit and the renters do NOT call in and report anything and they accept these less than tolerable conditions. Those people count on an honest tough code enforcement department.
For the anonymous assclown who called me a piece of shit, you sound just like one of the slumlords trying to point to one of the tragic cases and claim it as your own.
Eric M.
on the front page bob has the a democracy files linked right below the classifieds. there is pictures there of nancys house.
I have a name eric. It's Pat Nichols, and you don't fool me for a second with your shuck and jive and distortions. I could say more but i will let your imagination tell you what I think of you and your comments.
Eric talks about all these people who have all these problems and it is a bunch of shit.....just outright lies. Tell him to give you the addresses and you will go check the problem and get code enforcement involved if the landlord cannot provide hot water. He'll never give you the address because there isn't one......he's telling a lie.
He think all these people that are poor and have large families and no options should have the same quality of housing that the guy that works every day up inn Mac Groveland has? Sorry.....;it doesn't work that way. When ya only got half the money it takes to buy a new car, ys buy one with a dent in the fender.......when ya don't have the money for a new shit, you go to the goodwill and get one with a patch on it, when ya don't have the money for a steak you go to McDonalds, when ya don't have the money for a car you take the bus or walk or buy a bicycle. hen ys don't have $1000.00 a month for rent, you rent something that needs a paint job and has a torn screen or two.....so what?
This Eric guy is great when it comes "theoretical" outcomes and hypothetical questions, buit when it comes to reality he's as cluelesss as the rest of the DFL. He's part of the problem, not the soloution.
But Eric you are stilll accusing Bob of standing up and supporting the landlords bringing the lawsuits, and he's not. He doesn't even know them and you know nothing of what your talking about cause you don't know them either, but you sure don't mind calling them names do you?
Repke is good. I don't agree with him, but like to argue with him. At least he says what he thinks and is willing to stand by it. In my mind that puts him head and shoulders above most of the rest in this city.
I hate you Repke....why you make me say good things about you for? Your torturing me.
5:08, I have to second that.
Eric, Chuck, none of us here would ever shit you. You guy's are "our" favorite turds!
Hey Pat, 'shucking and jiving' is a racial epitet you low life lying poverty pimp. I don't shuck or jive. What you think about me is not worth flushing down the toilet.
You know better to ask about private properties but, I'll give you some info, the first house is on Payne Ave north of Maryland. The second place is on Desoto north of Lawson. The boarded up house is north of Maryland and I'll leave t there because at this point none of you are interested in solving these issues, just pretending like they don't exist and shooting the messenger when you should be shooting the landlord.
None of you on here know these conditions exist and are willing to doubt the probability of them in order to push your own agendas.
"Jamal", you don't have to assess what I really meant to say or think. You hang around here long enough and you'll see that, unlike some cowards who hide behind anonymous, I say it and sign my name to it.
Pat, we'll be talking.
Eric M.
When I use the term slumlord, it goes right to those whom that shoe fits. What you folks can't see (or refuse to see) is that there are some in your industry who are fucking it up for others. Ignore them if you want but, they are the ones that will be the arguement for more code enforcement. I haven't been to a resident meeting yet, that the question was less code enforcement.
Eric M.
Eric, I have been to these neighborhood meetings. The City dictates the dialog.
Is that a threat asshole? First off, I never knew that the phrase "Sucking and Jiving" was a racial thing at all, and I have heard it most of my life. I'm not predjudice and I don't give a damn what you think about me or say about me. Your anger and lashing out must meant that I am hitting pretty close to home. It's funny that I have some black friends, and sometimes I even go their homes for dinner or barbeques and I have used this phrase from time to time and none of them have ever said anything to me about what it supposed to mean. Didn't you have some problem before with someone here about your definition of something that you didn't like Eric? Just wondering. Have a nice night.
No one is asking for less code enforcement that I can remember. I will be willing to bet that this guy has never been to a meeting where they have wanted fair code enforcement either. To people like this guy, the ends justify the means and whoever gets hurt is just collateral damage as long as the city gets its way so they can save us from ourselves.
That's bull that the ciy dictates the dialogue. I've held enough of them here on the East Side to know that not to be true. Unless you have a weak council, or community group then, you get what you deserve. I said in the beginning the key is getting involved and shaping the agenda instead of just guessing from the outside.
Pat, I had an issue with the 'N' word and Bob was fair enough to post an entire article on why anyone of decency should have a problem with the word. And, I'm sure you have lots of black friends. Guys like you always do, or at least say that they do. You got names and addresses? You know, just to be fair.
The end goal is that people should have the opportunity to leave in decency rather they are poor or not. There should be a bottom line of standards that everyone can agree on, not just an absence of standards.
So Pat, what exactly have you done in neighborhood to help better the situation? Anything? I'll put up my credentials to yours any day. Its easy to sit in your yellow stained t-shirt and write outrageous shit on the net. Everyone here knows mt backgroundand rather you agree or not, I put the time in. How many can say the same? Not many because I would have run into you in person.
Eric M.
Yeah Eric.......Robert & Mary on the 700 block of Jessamine for a start. He's retired, she does daycare.......you must know them with your knowledege of the neighborhood. Like you said....."Guys like me always do." I also know some of the black neighbors very close to the newest "problem proeprty at 745 Geranium.....you kinow about that one don't you Eric? Come on over sometime, they'll probably chase you with baseball bats. i know the balck family very well that lives in the corner house on Lawson just a few blocks up from Payne.....know em Eric? I've spent a half an hour taling to them on the phone and none of them know you. So it seems that you're maybe not as popular as you think my man......just to be fair I mean!
I will agree with you on thing though as much as I hate to, and that is that there must be a bottom line of standards, and the bottom line that makes the foundation for those standards is fairness and honesty Eric. That seems to be something you want no part of.
And just to be fair again Eric....I don't wear yellow stained T shirts.
So if you live in an area where you have a weak Council or Community group you get what you deserve, but if your a weak renter with no options and a large family then you should ahve the full power of the code enforcement that comes out and lies about repairs so they can address behavior issues huh? I love the consistency!
Don't ya just love em? Whatever words win the arguement at the time is where they'll hang their hat.
Your not adding up in my book Eric.
I remember a meeting at the school. I was there when Bob came in with his friends and wanted to just pass out some fliers and educate people to what was going on, and Helgen tried to tell him to leave the meeting, embarrassed and humiliated him by telling him in front of everyone that what Bob was saying was misinformation, and then cut the meeting short to boot. I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds like control to me.
That was a meeting called and set up by Helgen. I remember him even posting on here. So it was a city meeting to start with.
Say what you want, you're not going to get me to stand with any of you on the removal of code enforcement. So that probably ends any conversation of decency. Your speculations are way off.
FOr the last time, I'm not a community leader. I don'tpretend or portray to be one. I stay involved on the East Side through block clubs and district council activity and have been part of a group that has increased diversity in spite of old timers complaining-Pat. Bob is the only one who thinks I'm popular. And you Pat, what have you done again? Aside from getting your fill of barbeque and having conversations about me?
SoreKeeper, who care what adds up in your book? Maybe your boyfriend. I don't.
Eric M.
And yes. If you have issues that your district council or community group is not addressing, then you need to get involved or get some like-minded people involved if you don't have the time. They are the easiest organizations to get involved in and if you are not yet spending your time complaining then you are getting the representation you deserve. Period.
Eric M.
I haven't done anything Eric except get up every morning and go to work and come home and get ready for a part time job that I work for 3 hours a night. I do not have the time to do anything, and I did not move to St Paul, buy a house and invest in the community to be saddled with a bunch of mundane tasks that I have paid others to do through the ungodly property tax that I pay.
I also don't have any conversations about you. I didn't even know you existed until yesterday. Not sure I want to know you either. You sound like an angry individual to me. Quite frankly, I'm used to a better class of people.
And where did you get the idea that anyone is calling for the removal of code enforcement? The issue I raised was fairness and honesty in code enforcement. Did you misunderstand something or are you of the opinion that it's a removal of code enforcement if they can't lie and set people up for issues that have nothing to do with code enforcement?
Yeah, huge misunderstanding.
First, I don't support any corruption by any government unit.
I'm also not in the camp that code enforcement is unnecessary. The code is becoming more uniform across the board and we have had some good results. You info on bad employees, call the news stations, radio stations and major press.
Your tax dollars also go toward open community processes. If you are not involved, you can any idiot representing you. I too moved here, bought property here, am raising a young family here and have my business here. I've too much invested to not have my voice heard in the process. Even if everyone disagrees.
Eric M.
People did call the new stations Eric. DOn't you remember? The TV whitwashed the story about Dawkins having code vioaltions on his own property while he was busy prosecuting people and giving them criminal records for lesser vioaltions. They also whitewashed the story about the Jessamine house in case you don't remember. They were all there and never once went inside and showed the public any of the photos of what the city claims was so bad. The pioneer Press whitewashed the Jessamine story also with their garbage. They also misrepresented the story on both fires on Carroll and Sherburne where people actually died, so don't come along with this "call the new" bullshit, they don't care, they're as much the problem as the city leaders are. The only ones who have ever told the truth regarding these issues are Bob and the paper called the watchdog.
Ya Eric, and Thune was handing out his brand of justice and his properties looked like they needed to be torn down.
I seen the pictures here at this blog. I think Tom Swift named him "Bucky Thune" from thee hills of Georgia.
Good Ole Thune....the "Grand Master" of the 30 year rehabs!
So let me get this straight. The city officials and county courts are against you, the media is against you, and the people are against you because they keep voting for the same politicians who are against you.
Only Bob Jonson, Bill Dahn and Leslie Davis unserstand you?
Does that sum it up?
Eric M.
Eric, you couldn't be more wrong. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND NEW PEOPLE EVERYDAY ARE BEING INFORMED.
What you just said is non-sense. I have over a year and a half of studing this issue to have an understanding of deconcentrating poverty & the actiond of code enforcement how do you expect the general public to understand such a complex issue when there is no talk of it in the mass media.
You would like people to think it is simple.
I bet you and Chuck are sitting down there on Plato at the DNC shitting a brick.
With the dirt your pals have accumulated I can grow an awful lot of corn.
This isn't a political thing. It is a right and wrong thing. Do what is right and you won't have pressures like this.
OK Bob, lot of things here.
First its the DFL, not the DNC. I spent four years working there (well two there and two at the previous building). You may not understand how the political structure works but the state party couldn't even tell you who the mayor and council members are. That's local. The state party (on Plato) focuses on the legislature and Congress. The DNC is in Washington, I spent a short amount of time there too.
I don't shit bricks for much of anything- except when I thought Saddam had WMDs and when I eat a big bag of Bar B Que Ruffles potato chips. Oh yeah, when I got caught smoking in school and they called my house and my father answered. I left a trail of bricks from the school to my house where he was waiting.
I'm kind of screwing with you here. If the whole city changed over overnight, it wouldn't affect my ability to provide for my family. I don't work for or do I do business with the city, or lobby on behalf of the city.
Chuck's been operating since I've been in diapers so I'm sure he'll adjust to the next group that takes over.
So there you have it, there is no reason for us to be defecating bricks at the DFL headquarters. Now if you've got inside information that the Republicans are going to remain in control of the White House and tilt the Congress back their way, then that's a reason for me to grab a big bag of Ruffles.
Eric M.
It's really sad that the the civil rights violations go on right under everyone's nose and people like Eric and Check are right there rooting for it with an agenda. Both of you will grow to be ashamed of the positions you have taken. Eric says he's not for any kind of corruption, but it's easy to see through who he really is and what he believes in.
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