KILLER TRAIN Claims another victim
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Light rail rider killed by train
BY EMILY GURNON AND TAD VEZNER
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 06/08/2007 08:53:05 PM CDT
Authorities said Evelyn L. Cotton, 79, was killed after stumbling under a light rail train in Minneapolis Friday at the Franklin Avenue platform. (SHERRI LAROSE-CHIGLO, Pioneer Press)The driver of a Minneapolis-bound light rail train apparently didn't realize for four stops that he had rolled over and killed a pedestrian who apparently lost her balance at the Franklin Avenue platform Friday afternoon.
But when the train pulled up at the Metrodome stop minutes later, passengers who were about to board had a clue: The side of the train was splattered with blood, and worse.
The victim was identified as Evelyn L. Cotton, 79.
Minneapolis police Capt. Mike Martin said it appeared from a security video taken of the 1:35 p.m. incident that Cotton had been walking alongside the train when she stumbled. She reached out to catch the side of the train as it was rolling out of the station, and was pulled under.
Another person standing on the platform attempted to pull her back, but was unsuccessful, the video suggested.
Someone standing on the platform called 911, but word didn't immediately reach the train's driver. When the train pulled into its final stop at the Warehouse District station, the conductor was notified by the command center what had happened.
Dakota Fujan, 16, of St. Paul, standing at the Metrodome stop, could only wonder why the train was still running when it rolled up with gruesome stains on its side. She accosted an exiting passenger.
"They heard knocking on the doors, then they heard bup, bup, bup, bup," Fujan said. She said they'd seen blood spattering the windows.
But Metro Transit spokesman Bob Gibbons said the conductor was apparently never contacted by any passengers - a process made easy by a button-operated intercom inside the passenger cabin.
"Passengers can communicate with an operator if they're on the train. Our understanding is no call was made," Gibbons said.
The Warehouse District platform is five stops, and approximately 10 minutes, away from Franklin Avenue platform. Gibbons said the train stopped at every stop.
Gibbons initially said that witnesses reported a woman was at the
Members of the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office take the body of the victim from the tracks of the Franklin Avenue Transit Station in Minneapolis on June 8, 2007. Authorities think she stumbled and fell between two cars and was dragged by the train. (Sherri LaRose-Chiglo)station, running alongside a northbound moving train and tapping on a window, apparently trying to get it to stop. But Martin said a review of surveillance video suggested that was not the case.
Earlier reports that the woman may have been pushed are also wrong, Martin said, adding that police have every reason to believe her death was accidental.
As of 4 p.m., train traffic between the Lake Street station and the Metrodome has been halted. Passengers are being shuttled around the scene of the accident by bus.
Gibbons said that as a train is pulling out of any station, the operator locks the doors and is required to focus all of his or her attention forward. He said that was a requirement because a pedestrian walkway is 10 to 15 feet in front of where the train rests at Franklin Avenue.
The death is the fourth involving light rail since the line officially opened on June 26, 2004.
In September of that year, an 87-year-old man drove under the track's safety arm at East 42nd Street and Hiawatha and was struck and killed by a train going about 40 mph. In April, 2005, a pedestrian was struck and killed at East 26th Street and Hiawatha by a train traveling about 55 mph. Last August a bicyclist was struck and killed at Hiawatha and East 46th Street by a train traveling 20 to 25 mph.
From the beginning I knew this light rail was a DUMB idea.
It has done nothing but KILL one person after another since it was put into service.
It has done nothing but hamper traffic along Hiawatha.
Now the commies want us here in Saint Paul riding the TRAIN!
I get it, it is like some Roman sport from ancient times. Ya ride the train and watch the gladiators get sacrificed beneath it's wheels.
What is acceptable numbers in lose of life yearly for this train?
Personally, I'd like to see 4 city bus drivers go POSTAL and smash into this train simutaniously and derail it from it's tracks so it will not KILL anyone else.
If this were a private business they would have shut it down after the 2nd killing.
The lite rail on University Ave, it will be stopping every 3rd block or so.It will not suit all people that now ride the bus.
Some small and large businesses will lose customers.
But no one cares about the businesses, only the union jobs that it will create.
9:23, your name calling really makes you sound intelligent. I wouldn't sign my name to a statement like that either.
My point IS, there are 500 times as many City buses and they haven't run over maimed and killed as many people as this train in the same period of time they have been operating.
Bottom line the train is a safety hazard due to the design of the system. And it waste thousands of dollars of idling motorist waiting for this commy venture to get the hell out of the way.
Bob -
What size tinfoil hat do you wear? Lets call the Dept. of Public Safety and ask them how many bus/pedestrian or bus/vehicle acidents there have been since the light rail started.
1:32, I don't have the statistics but I do watch the news and I think Bob has made a good point.
I'd like to see the statistics you speak of but neglect to post. Or, was the tin foil hat comment to Bob the substance of your post.
It's me again 1:43..
I had a second thought. I know these numbers aren't exact but it does make a good point.
There is 2 trains. I have heard of as many as 6 deaths & injuries between these 2 trains.
Now excluding the violence on the bus and just taking into consideration accidents, if there is over 500 buses to have the same mathematical ratio the buses would have had to of run over and killed 1500 people.
I'll be waiting on those statistics 1:32.
Don't you guys have a Dungeons and Dragons game waiting for you?
The DPS investigates all bus accidents. They can give you numbers of accidents, not to mention the thousands who die driving every day.
Bob - have you ever talked to a girl?
20 seconds on the web, and this is what I found, time to get rid of school buses too.
Each school day more than 25 million children ride the recognizable yellow school bus back and forth to school and school related activities. Additionally, millions take these vehicles to camp, religious, athletic and youth events. There are an approximate 450,000 school buses in service to date. School buses travel 2 million miles every school day. About 16,000 school bus collisions occur annually, resulting in 12,000 injuries and 130 deaths involving school buses yearly.
Still think LRT is the root of all evil?
From the DPS Crash reports...
http://www.dps.state.mn.us/OTS/crashdata/2005CFacts/CF05-9Train.pdf
We need to kick the Union Pacific out of Minnesota, far more accidents and fatalities from car/train crashes. But Bob says we need to get rid of that "commie" light rail.
2:13, 2:30, & 2:34, probably all the same person, anyway!
To address the 2:13 comment, "have you ever talked to a girl"? I have been a heterosexual all my life.
My lady is 12 years younger than I am, so I can safely say I talk to a GIRL daily.:-) 2:13, I'm very sorry you are homophobic. I wish there was help for you. I have met some very nice homosexual people. Some folks start losing a debate they resort to childish behavior.
To get you back on focus and away from your evasive rhetoric. I called the metro Transit for some facts.
First of all, the only viable comparison to light rail is City buses since it is light rail that is replacing parts of this safer form of public transportation.
There is 240 City buses running daily. There is 26 light rail cars that get coupled in various configurations depending upon demand for service. They get coupled in 2's & 3's.
There has been 4 deaths related to light rail since it begun service June 6, 2004. (We won't even count injuries and maiming)
An equal ratio of deaths by City buses during the same time period would be about 60 causalities. Do the MATH. There is 240 BUSES, Versus 26 rail cars that get coupled together. I sure as hell haven't heard about 60 deaths related to City Buses. You have a better chance of getting killed by the light rail train than getting shot to death by a gang banger on a City Bus.
I don't care how you try to come and and attempt to make me or others look stupid, the facts are OBVIOUS! The CITY BUS IS SAFER!
I know we could use this federal money and union jobs to construct this thing. At what long term cost to the residence of Saint Paul?
Oh ya, we are in a financial squeeze and desperate people do desperate things like run poor folk out of town and show favoritism to big developers and do half ass planning just to get a bone!
I'm all for a LIGHT RAIL! IF it is built on a rail far above the street. This way it will be safer and won't disrupt the lives of other commuters. It will truly be "green friendly" since it won't be holding up thousands of idiling cars & trucks emitting Co2 into the air, wasting gas & diesel fuel waiting for the KILLER TRAIN to pass.
It is time consuming now, getting to the other side of University during rush hours. Imagine Hiawatha & Lake street without that over pass for the Killer Train. What the heck are they going to do with University and Snelling? Time is money and this damn train consumes other commuters expenditures in the form of labor cost, fuel, gas, just waiting for this thing to pass.
My idea makes sense. Any thing short of what I propose will have a long lasting negative impact on Saint Paul.
30 something years from now I will have a Killer Train Death Toll Tally here at this blog in the hundreds. I probably should post revenue causalities also. :-)
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