Andy Dawkins Broke The Law?
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Hi All,
I brought the following comment up from another thread. I have heard this story before and had intended to make issue of it in the future.
But, here it is, a commenter has beat me to the punch. Folks do you see the big picture here. Look at the names that keep coming up when something needs smoothed over for the Democrats. Is this the kind of local government we want?
*Hey Chuck, you have avoided an issue that was raised before. Just to remind you and Bob of this important issue.
When Andy Dawkins ran for State Representative during his last three terms, he did not live in his district. It seems Dawkins lived outside of his legislative district with his wife Sen. Ellen Anderson. The property he claimed to live at to get elected to the state house in the Frogtown neighborhood was written up for many violations and mail stacked up. It got so bad the US Postal Service refused to deliver Mr. Dawkins’ mail there anymore because it was too big of a pile.
Bob are you listening here? Mr. Dawkins did not live at this address (Frogtown), but he claimed it on his state filing forms as his place of residence. Had Mr. Dawkins listed his real address with his wife Sen. Ellen Anderson, he would not have been eligible to run for his State Representative seat in Frogtown. By claiming to live at an address that he did not live at Andy could keep his legislative seat and homestead two properties at the same time. Neat trick Chuck wouldn’t you say so.
There was a candidate, Fred Tenson (sp) who ran against Mr. Dawkins in the Frogtown area who even got neighbor’s statements that backed up the fact that Mr. Dawkins did not live at the address he claimed for his legislative seat. Fred even got signed statements from neighbors where Sen. Anderson lived that stated Mr. Dawkins lived outside of his legislative district and only lived at the Frogtown address on paper. Mr. Dawkins only used his Frogtown address to get elected after he married Sen. Anderson. Mr. Dawkins claimed during several election cycles that he lived in his Frogtown address, but actually lived out of his district with his wife Sen. Ellen Anderson. The marriage certificate is on file in Ramsey County along with property records with Andy and Ellen's names on the documents.
This information was given to Joe Mansky (sp), Director of Ramsey County Elections and being the DFL hack that he is, this did not go anywhere. Did you know he was fired from the Secretary of State’s office due to his partisan tendencies? Do you think Susan G. from the Ramsey County Attorney will do anything to bring justice against a fellow DFLer? Answer is simply, NO.
So Chuck, explain your way out of this one. Mr. Dawkins broke the law to keep his legislative seat. His property was written up many times, mail was stopped and he was put in charge of code inspections. Does that make sense Chuck?
I can see your response now, Mr. Dawkins was serving the public good and he was not required to follow the same laws everyone else has to follow because the end justifies the means. Right Chuck?
Bob are you looking into this? Here Mr. Dawkins was put in charge of code enforcement and he had broken the law to get elected and was unable to keep up his own property. This does not make sense.
Tired of the corruption in St. Paul.
So what Bob, they are getting away with what ever they want.
Look at Jim Metzen, "drunken driving".
Just a democrat, doing what they do best.
I think andy dawkins will look good in stripes along with a number of other city officials when he ends up in jail where he belongs.
OK - so I will bring my comments over from the other thread...
On the Dawkins and where he lived issue, I supported a young man named Reggie Edwards who lived in the district (and worked for the County) for DFL endorsement in 1998. In fact at the time I was the political director for Ted Mondale who was running for governor and wrote a good part of the speech that Mondale gave for Edwards at the SD 65 DFL convention.
It was a great speech too Ted spoke of the fact that Saint Paul has NEVER sent an Afircan American to the legislature in the history of the state and if HD65A DFL the district that holds the highest consentration of minority members in the city endorsed someone who didn't live in the district over Reggie Edwards they should be ashamed. Mondale, "If not now when? If not Edwards who?"
Dawkins and Pappas were both pissed at me for that one. I had supported Dawkins from when he first was interested in running years before, and have been friends, (and think we still are) but I couldn't support him representing a district he didn't live in.
So, I don't know what you were doing in 1998 about Dawkins representing Summit U and Frogtown while living in Como. but I was trying to do something about it.
PS - Saint Paul still hasn't sent an African American to the legislature...
But, sorry, no law is broken... the court gives great flexibility with addresses, ask Sharron and Bill. For voting purposes Dawkins claimed that he lived in a duplex on Charles that he had the legal right to reside in and he hung his hat there. The fact that he spent little time there didn't break any law.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
I want to make this perfectly clear! I am not a "democrat bash-er". There are many fine democrats. This is an open forum ALL are welcome here.
The problem is we have a number of entrenched democrats in local politics who think they can bend the rules.
This is a deep seated problem that extends from the City government to the judicial branch and it has been going on for years.
It is time for change and change is coming!
Hi Chuck,
2 things, I don't think Sharon actually plans on winning the City Council race so she isn't concerned about being taken to task for running from the East side for the Ward 2.
Bill is actually moving back to Ward 2 on the 1st of the month just in case he does win. :-)
There is too much politics in this process.
I'm afraid that Dawkins has opened the door hear for his New York style organized crime.
8:19, I believe Metzen received a fine and community service. He didn't get away with anything.
Dear Chuck,
I have to say I found what you said to be very insightful; “I had supported Dawkins from when he first was interested in running years before, and have been friends, (and think we still are) but I couldn't support him representing a district he didn't live in.”
If all of these DFLers knew about Mr. Dawkins and his residency issue, then why didn’t they say something? Being honest with the public goes a long way.
If I remember correctly, Jay Bennanav was the attorney from the DFL who went after Sue Ek over a residency issue when she wanted to run for a seat in the state house representing St. Cloud? I can even remember a picture of Jay in the St. Cloud Times pretty proud of himself for getting Ms. Ek off the ballot. Is it just me or is there a double standard going on here?
Yes, I agree with you, St. Paul needs to have at least one if not more African Americans in the state house.
Leave it up to Chuck to once again twist the story to enable him to stick up for the city and justify it! Chuck you should be a criminal defense attorney then you could represent criminals and twist stories all day long everyday.
Hey 11:45 All I know is that Mondale stood up in front of the convention and endorsed Edwards.
So, Andy was out there explaining himself and how he and Ellen had a non-conventional relationship... or something like that..
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Ramsey County should be renamed "Double Standard." That's all it is.....a bunch ofg elites with an education looking down their noses at blue collar people. I agree it is time for change!
American His-Story, if the foundations are destroyed, the good people can do nothing!
629 PM
We all have to be Whistle Blowers on bad government, on there agencies and there employees.
Every person that is hired in a city, county, state and federal government job has to swear to uphold the code of conduct and the code of ethics.
Elected people making their own rules, as they feel it fits the moment.
Wake up St.Paul, we had two mayors lately that started off as Democrats.
One was Norm Coleman, that change to Republican in his second term.
Randy Kelly kissing up to Bush, we see Bush gave him a good job in Washington DC.
All this reminds me of Susan Kimberly who was a city employee that had a sex change, then he was a she.
Democrats that see a light of a better feature, changes parties to become a Republican.
They have no loyalty to the voters, just to prosper in their own career.
I went up against all branches of government.
I never backed down, when they wanted me to shut my mouth.
For bringing out their uses of cancer causing chemicals, in some 200,000 home in Minnesota.
Bill Dahn
for St.Paul City Council Ward 2
The Whistle Blower
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The foundation was destroyed in St Paul for me a long time ago. I'll never ever trust the government again!
Tell us Chuck...Was Sara Jane Olson a friend of your too?
12;52, I will second that about repke. i still love to hate that prick. no offense chuck but you are wrong as usual.
I think with Chuck, that he sees the consequences for the city's actions better than most.
Here, a part of the city has done the unthinkable, and has become cruel and wreckless.
Other parts blindly jump to the support, and are in deep denial.
What Chuck sees is the poisonous effects, especially since the city is a huge balancing act. This could well bring everything down.
Chuck is not speaking his mind. He is trying to do damage control.
Where Chuck fails, is he is using words alone, and shares some of the denial. He will not support constructive solutions by the city, which has hell to pay for its abuse.
What the city needs is someone who is a lightning rod, to fix the poison, and to set things right. Chuck is not that person.
To add to my 6:43 comments, the leadership in the city is pathetic, with a strange assortment of instagators and jellyfish. It's time for a complete change. (Sorry Bob for the personal attack on jellyfish).
Hey Chuck,
We all have read the many documents here about the code enforcement officers like Manger. Some of us have had personal experience at the ruthless tactics of these inspectors. Chuck, you can put spin on anything, as you are good at it, as I have seen you in action. The sad thing here is you are trying to blow smoke at the landlords who have brought suit against your fellow DFLers. They have some meat to what they are saying.
Andy Dawkins does have a little explaining to do and in your own words here on this blog you stated you knew about Mr. Dawkins not living in the residence he claimed to be living in just to run for office to keep his seat in the State Legislature. Does this make you and all who knew what was going on with the residency issue a partner to the crime. If you knew about Mr. Dawkins residence issue then why didn’t you go to the proper authorities?
Your sign-off at the end of your posts should be:
I Will Do Anything To Keep Democrats In Power
IWDATKDIP
Look you dipshits, there was no crime. The law is pretty vague about your address. As long as you "own" the address you claim to live at, like Dawkins did on the Charles home, he could claim he was resident of that district. No laws were broken.
It was well publicized at the time that he probably wasn't really a resident since his wife didn't live in the district but the residents of the district still voted him into office.
Chuck is right, St Paul has not sent and African American to the legislature- yet. Minneapolis has sent 5, and one to Congress.
I too was in Mondale's camp back in '97 and '98 (that's where I first met Chuck) and Ted stood up and endorsed Reggie loud and publicly. Last year, we elected Reggie to the position of Director of the state DFL Party.
Jay Benanav works as an election attorney for the top firm that practices election law in Minnesota. Sue Ek, was homesteaded and registered to vote in Saint Cloud. Jay's firm (Wienblatt and Gaylord) does a lot of DFL legal work, as does the Republican firm that represented Sue(Tony Trimble).
I may agree that having a one party town in most cases leads to no checks and balances but, if you examine those who all call themselves DFLers, you'll see that though we are all from the same Party, we don't go to the same parties. Aside from party name, there is no way you can put Dan Bostrom, Lee Helgen, Betty McCollum, and Jay Benanav in the same category.
Eric M.
The tide is rising fast Repke. I'm afraid you, Eric and your DFL elites are going to swept out to sea when the elections come around in November.
Chuck,
There are better things to do than protect dipshits.
Hey Chuck,
Chuck you said, "And, on the Dawkins stuff, just because something is new to you doesn't mean it is NEWS. The issue of where Andy lived or didn't live was in the papers at the time... its a nonissue, eventhough I supported someone else because of it."
No, I did not see this article nor have I seen this topic printed in the Pioneer Press about Dawkins. Having kept up on politics in St. Paul I disagree with your contention this has been brought up before. Do you have any web links to what you talk about (in the papers at the time).
Maybe the Ramsey County Attorney should look into this, oh that is right she is a DFLer. Recently, I had a conversation with the former Speaker of the House when Dawkins was in the legislature. He stated that he did not know anything about the residency issue. Had he known about it he would have called for an investigation on the Dawkins residency issue.
Bob, I am sorry for posting this twice. I posted this on the wrong thread (Manger) and it should have been posted here instead.
Mr. Dawkins was in charge of code enforcement while Manger was doing this stuff. If I remember correctly it was Dawkins why stated, "code to the max" to go after landlords due to their problem tenants.
WOW - truly you would have to go back to 1997 or 1998 of the Pioneer Press also I think KMSP did a story and they interviewed the people who "shared" the house on Charles with Andy.
I am not going to look for old links for you, but I am not kidding. I wrote a speech for Ted Mondale to drop on Andy at his endorsing convention. It was an issue that was out there in the campaign. Voters were aware of his "interesting" living arrangement with his wife. He claimed to live on Charles, made it almost sound like he and Ellen were seperated or had some strange living arrangement. It was stupid.
but he won.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
this wass all over the media when it was going on. I remember watching it.
I,m..... BACK! I have officialy moved back to the West Side.
Bill Dahn for City Council. Vote in the Septmember primarys.
What I can not figure out is why didn't the DFL press Andy Dawkins on the residency issue?
Why didn't the DFL police their own?
Why didn't Sen. Anderson who is married to Andy Dawkins and knows the truth, press her husband to do the right thing?
Again, I am getting the feeling that the DFL will do anything to stay in power.
OK one last time. He was challanged on the issue at the DFL convention. There was a qualified DFL'er who sought endorsement against him. Ted Mondale gave a speech against Dawkins and for this other candidate. Dawkins claimed to have this strange living arrangement and the majority of delegates bought it. There was no law broken.
That district has about a 90% DFL index which means you could run the proverbial "yellow dog" in the district as a Democrat and it would win. So, it isn't an issue of the DFL holding onto power, any democrat would win. The issue is that they liked Andy and given the choice between him and another DFL'er they still picked Andy.
They liked him.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck,
You stated the following:
"That district has about a 90% DFL index which means you could run the proverbial "yellow dog" in the district as a Democrat and it would win. So, it isn't an issue of the DFL holding onto power, any democrat would win. The issue is that they liked Andy and given the choice between him and another DFL’er they still picked Andy."
This statement by you speaks volumes as to why change is needed. There is a high degree of corruption going on with the DFL leadership in St. Paul.
I will be emailing Bob with another revelation about the DFL in St. Paul and showing another example as to why the rules do not apply to the party in charge.
8:43 - It's much more believable if you start using your name instead of anonymous.
8:43 Look I'll I try to do is call them as I see them. Legislative races are run with party designation there are some districts that have a high enough index either GOP or DFL that it doesn't matter who is running.
I have been doing this stuff for a long time, I remember in 1984 going to a precinct in that district on election day while there was a poll watcher for CBS news there interviewing people as they left the polls as a part of creating there national election projections. I was doing get out the vote work for the DFL and the poll watcher and I eventually got into a discussion. I asked him how the race was going between Mondale and Regan and he said he had been there all day and hadn't spoken to one person who admitted to voting for Regan. He wasn't kidding. The precinct voted 95% for Mondale whil Mondale was getting clobbered nation wide.
Some districts are strong DFL and some are strong GOP... that is just life 8:43.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
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