RACKETEERING LAWSUITS
I have added links to the RICO lawsuits against the City of St. Paul.
The links are located on the right side of the screen below my profile.
Please take the time to sort through the legal boredom and get to the meat of these stories. It's a sad drama of personal grief suffered by many.
The links are located on the right side of the screen below my profile.
Please take the time to sort through the legal boredom and get to the meat of these stories. It's a sad drama of personal grief suffered by many.
posted by Bob at Sunday, September 10, 2006
21 Comments:
There would be many more lawsuits if everyone could afford to be represented by an attorney. Also there are people out there that have been so intimidated and threatened by the St.Paul housing officials that they probaly feel they have no rights, would you feel like you have rights of any kind after being kicked out of your own private home with 24 hours to do so? A landlord can't kick someone out even if the tenant doesn't pay the rent and destroys the house. But once again we have no chose but to blame the landlord; why? Because thats what you get for buying property and paying your taxes in St.Paul.
These kind of law suits cost the plaintiffs big money. Anyone have any idea how much has been spent already?
My divorce cost me $20,000.00 for just a few months. Apparantly this has been going on for years. It has to cost a bundle.
I Heard a figure of about 300,000 plus for just the plantiffs so far.I don't know exactly how much the city has spent yet.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE FIGHTING WITH. THEY WOULD BE MILES AHEAD TO JUST SETTLE THE DAMN THING AND SHUT IT UP WHILE THEY STILL CAN.
When have you ever known the city to admit fault and pay up? They would rather wait to be humiliated completely then pay much,much more in punitive damages. Then they can scratch their heads and say what did we do wrong! Duh!
A fiend of mine was on a jury a few years ago when someone from the fire department sued the city. the city did him worng and originaly, all he wanted was an apology, but no they could not do that so they went to trial. The city was so obviously wrong in just the first day, that they settled it and the guy got his apology and a bunch of money.
And then there was Phil Krinke. The city's housing inspectors screwed with him and they paid a bunch of money out when he sued them. You would think they would learn at some point.
After reading the complaints, I see that they were not subtle in any of their actions. The city just didn't go after a few properties, they went after whole portfolios of many business owners. It doesn't matter that they are separate houses, it was their "business". And they want a jury to decide on this one. Oh I'd love to be a jury on this case. Maybe I will, last time I was called for duty I had family issue and was tossed back into the pot for a later time.
I'm just waiting to see if any more will join the suits as this looks like it could get really ugly. I'm sure most of the detective/leg work, as I'll name it, will have been done now and the cost to pursue this thing will have gone down in retainer fees.
This is something to watch and has the potential to really heat up.
You bet it's going to heat up. How come we don't have the other RICO suits posted here?
Hi All,
I posted a invitation at SPIF. Don't count on any of them commenting here. The regular posters of SPIF like the security of the class room. It's a little rough out here on the playground. :-)
I know some would like more opposition. When I pass out invitations October thru December I don't think you will get much opposition then either. Tough to find people in bed with the City in the general population.
It seems like we live in an age when if someone wants some quick cash they just sue.
Personally I don't think you's will get a dime.
What are you going to tell the judge, your honor I had a dope house rental and the City took it away from me and the neighborhood is now a nice place and the neighbors like it there now.
Nope, I think they will tell the judge they had a dope house rental and the city took it away and the way they did it violated their civil rights.
Hatter's got it wrong. It will be the city telling the judge that they took away the dope house rental and the neighbors like it fine.....and then they'll see if the jury shares your opinions Hatter.
And that the cops and courts don't keep the dealers off the streets. Remember the brilliance of "every one deserves a roof over their head, either it's a house or jail". And that landlord's have the right to conduct their business is a reasonably safe environment just as any one else has. And that the city isn't doing their job keeping the dealers locked up so that they don't corrupt the single mom out their with kids looking for companionship, and let's the guy, who should be in jail for previous offenses, crash at her place and then start up his so-called business again and in which case she agrees because it's slim pickins out there, just look at the crud who keeps posting here with all his blarney sailor talk "you's won't get a dime" I bet he even has a cackle to his voice in doing this. But all the auditions are over and you're nobody's idol, so get a clue.
I happen to know 2 of the people in those lawsuits and I have seen the evidence. I think you are misquoting the thing about these guys not getting a dime. I think when the jury speaks, the city is not going to have dime left.
I read the lawsuits in the Watchdog newspaper-- Now I have something to line my catbox with. This is good humor. I personally know most of these inspectors. They are stand up guys, they would never do what these stories say they did. I bet if you check each and every inspectors background, they aren't slobs like you slum lords are! Besides, they are not allowed to own investment properties in St Paul if they are inspectors.
These are not real lawsuits. The inspectors were just doing what they were told to do. How can they be sued for doing their job. The city should be indemnified against things like this. Who has been hurt in this? Only the wealthy landlords!!! Lets focus on lowering property taxes or something that someone cares about.
Andrew, Andrew, Andrew.
Kudos Anonymous! Is Andrew for real??? WoW if he is!!
I got some news for ya Dave T. If you really believe the things you are saying, you are a fool. A lot of the inspectors are stand up guys, but some are not, and some of those inspectors not only did do the things that you read in the lawsuits, they also did some things that are not in the lawsuits and when it finally comes out, I think you are going to be pretty suprised. You just keep on talking buddy. They need the morale boost downtown.
As for you Andrew my boy....I cannot believe someone could be as ignorant as you appear to be. Do you have to be work real hard at being this stupid or does it jsut kinda come naturally fro you?
By taking the position you have, you are gambling with your property tax that you are right.
Have you ever wondered just for a minute about "what if" you are wrong?
Your correct with your thought that "the city should be idemnified against things like this" and when it is all over they are going to wish they were.....so will you because you are going to be paying the bill when all those so called wealthy landlords get lot wealthier.
The fact that the inspectors were just doing their jobs means nothing as far as protecting them goes. You cannot just go and do what someone tells you to do and then have immunity afterwards.
When you talk about "focusing on lowering property taxes or something that someone cares about" I think you and your brain dead friends should be focusing on how you can prevent your prperty taxes from going up any more than they have to. Maybe you should be downtown asking why the city is continuing to carry out the same actions day after day that got them sued in the first place. Every day the city comes to work, they are creating another pool of potential litigants down the road, and when the city finally loses in court, the people wanting to sue will comming out of the woodwork and there will be a ton of lawyers willing to represent them for free because they will then know that it is easy money.
And finally, your remark and the flavor it was in about only the wealthy landlords have been hurt kind of makes me wonder if you have a problem with people that have worked hard, been sucessfull and have something to show for it. Is that a problem with you or is it just landlords in general that you think don't deserve to have the same rights as everyne else?
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