The MOOSE HEADS TRUTH in Code Compliance!
This post clarifies what we're up against in St. Paul. I thought it was worthy of a title.
From: "Anonymous" anonymous-comment@blogger.com
To: rbljohnson@yahoo.com
Subject: [ademocracy] 9/25/2006 08:26:34 PM
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
A lot of people do not understand the term "Code Compliance." Most people think it means that a property owner should keep the building up to code, and not have any unsafe conditions existing.
THIS IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS!
When the city of St. Paul subjects these condemned and vacant houses to "code compliance," what they are doing is in effect telling the property owner to bring the property into compliance with what would be the equivalent of the modern day building code, like it is a brand new house being built today. That means a person is stuck tearing out walls, floors, etc. replacing perfectly good and working plumbing, furnaces, stairways, etc....WHATEVER the city wants.....and at the same time your neighbors ARE NOT subjected to this and they get to maintain their homes under the code the house was built under (with some small exceptions.)
The city uses this power (even though they have NO authority to)to address behavior and prejudice issues with neighbors, and they disguise it as a law enforcement tool. The neighbors do not like someone so they call the City Council and complain. The City Council then calls out the inspectors and they come and (in some cases, not all) they lie about certain repairs so they can condemn the house and make it vacant, and BINGO....now they insist on the owner making all these costly repairs that no one else has to make.
Do these houses need repair? Yes they do, in some but not all cases, but they do not a code compliance.
Most of the code compliance's cost $40,000.00 to $50,000.00. Who can afford that?
By requiring the owner to invest so much money into the property, the City of St. Paul has practically guaranteed that the owner will not be able to rent to the low income people any longer because now the rent has to go up too high for the low incomes to afford it.
No one has ever to my knowledge complained that they do not want to or think they should not have to keep their house up to snuff. What they are saying is that they do not want to be TARGETED AND DSICRIMINATED against for repairs that no one else has to make. They want to be able to maintain their property in accordance the the city's chapter 34 housing code standards, just like all the other taxpayers, not the bankrupting code compliance scam that the city has going on.
If I am not mistaken, this is one of the elements of the lawsuits the landlords have brought, and considering how the city has acted, I personally think the landlords will win.
If the home owner cannot afford to do the repairs, then the City Council just tears down your house for you and you have nothing.....as in the Jessamine case some months ago.
Then one of their "pet developers" or "non profit" organizations winds up with the vacant lots somewhere down the road to build their projects on.
St. Paul has not been telling the truth about anything concerning the housing code inspections department, and now it seems like it is time to pay the price.
How could the city think that for 5 years they could go around condemning, requiring these expensive code compliance's, and tearing down everything they can get their hands on and not have it make an effect on the community?
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Posted by Anonymous to ademocracy at 9/25/2006 08:26:34 PM
From: "Anonymous" anonymous-comment@blogger.com
To: rbljohnson@yahoo.com
Subject: [ademocracy] 9/25/2006 08:26:34 PM
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
A lot of people do not understand the term "Code Compliance." Most people think it means that a property owner should keep the building up to code, and not have any unsafe conditions existing.
THIS IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS!
When the city of St. Paul subjects these condemned and vacant houses to "code compliance," what they are doing is in effect telling the property owner to bring the property into compliance with what would be the equivalent of the modern day building code, like it is a brand new house being built today. That means a person is stuck tearing out walls, floors, etc. replacing perfectly good and working plumbing, furnaces, stairways, etc....WHATEVER the city wants.....and at the same time your neighbors ARE NOT subjected to this and they get to maintain their homes under the code the house was built under (with some small exceptions.)
The city uses this power (even though they have NO authority to)to address behavior and prejudice issues with neighbors, and they disguise it as a law enforcement tool. The neighbors do not like someone so they call the City Council and complain. The City Council then calls out the inspectors and they come and (in some cases, not all) they lie about certain repairs so they can condemn the house and make it vacant, and BINGO....now they insist on the owner making all these costly repairs that no one else has to make.
Do these houses need repair? Yes they do, in some but not all cases, but they do not a code compliance.
Most of the code compliance's cost $40,000.00 to $50,000.00. Who can afford that?
By requiring the owner to invest so much money into the property, the City of St. Paul has practically guaranteed that the owner will not be able to rent to the low income people any longer because now the rent has to go up too high for the low incomes to afford it.
No one has ever to my knowledge complained that they do not want to or think they should not have to keep their house up to snuff. What they are saying is that they do not want to be TARGETED AND DSICRIMINATED against for repairs that no one else has to make. They want to be able to maintain their property in accordance the the city's chapter 34 housing code standards, just like all the other taxpayers, not the bankrupting code compliance scam that the city has going on.
If I am not mistaken, this is one of the elements of the lawsuits the landlords have brought, and considering how the city has acted, I personally think the landlords will win.
If the home owner cannot afford to do the repairs, then the City Council just tears down your house for you and you have nothing.....as in the Jessamine case some months ago.
Then one of their "pet developers" or "non profit" organizations winds up with the vacant lots somewhere down the road to build their projects on.
St. Paul has not been telling the truth about anything concerning the housing code inspections department, and now it seems like it is time to pay the price.
How could the city think that for 5 years they could go around condemning, requiring these expensive code compliance's, and tearing down everything they can get their hands on and not have it make an effect on the community?
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Posted by Anonymous to ademocracy at 9/25/2006 08:26:34 PM
posted by Bob at Monday, September 25, 2006
44 Comments:
Alomst everyone I know of has either had an encounter with these renegade inspectors or they know of someone who has. The city should learn a lesson in customer service. That lesson is that when you do something good, it never gets mentioned, but do something bad and a lot of people are going to talk about it and pass on the story, often getting blown out of shape along the way, but still believed by the people hearing it because they believe in the person telling it. The elections next year should be interesting because a lot of people are talking about this crap, and I don't think they are going to stop any time soon...especially if it is their elderly parents who were affected by these actions.
10:42-That lesson is that when you do something good, it never gets mentioned, but do something bad and a lot of people are going to talk about it and pass on the story, often getting blown out of shape along the way, but still believed by the people hearing it because they believe in the person telling it.
So your saying the story is blown out of shape. Which part of the story shouldn't we believe?
The inspectors also use police calls to kick out tenants who may have been too loud or not acting in a way that is acceptable with the neighbors. They have rights to play music, have backyard parties, get into family arguments, just like the rest of us. Only the city will force you into evicting your tenants even though they did nothing wrong. How can they do this? They threaten to take the landlord's rental certificate away. No rent, no mortgage payment. You also don't get to appeal it. They will also use this method to gain entrance into the building, without a search warrant, and code it to the max. So, first the police are called, then city inspectors show up or trail them on the calls, then the inspectors use the police that are on the scene to intimidate the tenant to let them in. The "plan" seems to be working quite well.
I hear they are more blazen these days. They just show up and start writing up demolish plans.
Things are blown out of shape all right by Coleman and Kessler who claim it is all for the good and safety of the city. I'll huff and puff and blow your house down.
How many of you agree with Mike Fratto's posting below of an answer to Nancy's posting in that it would be impossible for the city to do this? Didn't Dave Thune take "forever" rehabing his place. I believe he said he started in the late 70's, didn't he, and then stated it was his "understanding" that you could go ahead and work on your project as long as you are making some sort of progress on a continuing basis. How many of you spent thousands of dollars and didn't get the Thune treatment?
Posted 26 Sep 2006 08:49 by Mike Fratto
I will agree with Nancy's post regarding the issue of
the city sitting back watching good faith efforts to
rehab a property then coming and condeming the
property if that is what happens.
Granted it may happen if someone takes out the proper
permits and thentakes forever to complete the job,
However, it doesn't even seem possible that with
proper records, permits and contracts in hand the city
would do it.
--- Nancy Osterman
>
> The part that I like best is that the City sits and
> watches good faith efforts to rehab, costing many
> dollars, before stepping in and saying "Not quite up
> to code, sorry. We have to knock it down." There is
> something seriously wrong with any city department
> that is so deceptive, so unprincipled, so mean as to
> be corrupt.
> Nancy Osterman
> Northern Suburbs of St. Paul, Ham Lake
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Mike Fratto
Payne Phalen
651-771-4972
http://oyh.org
The future depends more on
what we do between now and then
Than what we did in the past.
It's also not a question of doing somthing "bad". It is illegal and corrupt and these inspectors are not doing their jobs. This isn't a game of "telephone" here, we are not children trying to get out the exact message being passed around. You can't make this stuff up or expand on it. It isn't heresay or gossip. It is real events that don't change and that put a lot of people in financial ruin.
The inspectors are not educated enough to make any decisions regarding what is a perfectly operational utility or building amenity. When the city or any affiliates do "good" they are rewarded with being re-elected and by not getting showcased and spotlighted on a blog or website such as this one. The city has been known quite often to say "code to the max" or "do a forced sale". It is predetermined that a house will never pass an inspection, re-inspection or be standing after a shit-load of money has been invested. That's fact pass it on!
You guys are a bunch of complainers. If you spent half the time fixing yout buildings as you do here, you would be in A-1 shape and maybe the rest of us could talk about something that matters.
Y'all hear that a roman soldier has spoken. He takes up the sword and with an ignorant swish fells those that suffer the wrath of the unholy and evil. He then claims his superiority over the poor, rejected and enslaven. Woe to he that proclaims himself in the highest, for his fall will be great!
HOGWASH! I'm not falling anywhere dumbell. We are cleaning up this city wether you guys like it or not. I'd suggest doing the same for your little forum here. People are sick and tired of reading about this nonsense. Got it?
hmmm, sounds like either a code inspector or a councilmember or a butt kisser to the aforementioned. Oooohhh and sounds like he's getting a might testy there. Calm down little fella, how short are ya anyways?
Ever since Repke and gang have had their way with the eastside its went to hell in a hand basket.Take a look at his house maybe he leads by example.They've ran all the lower rung tenants out of the poorer neighborhoods and into higher property valued nieghborhoods causing properties to drop in price.Thanks Chuck and the city council.Not everybody should and can own a house.Forclosures are proof of that.Some people belong being tenants which is not a bad thing.But the city has been chasing out landlords for the past five years who's going to invest in houses to rent to them?Oh, I get it let the city do all the renting.They manage things so well.Folks its cheaper to keep rental private.
I wouldn't invest a nickle in St. Paul with the way they use code enfrocement as behavior police.
here's a person who speaks at Edem on behalf of the educated white, white-collar of the st.paul community. Lot's 'o luck with coleman "How can we help you out of your house faster" is more like it! Nancy is not colored so what is the excuse for knocking down her home again. Once again Edem is full of educated mainly of white origin singing the praises of st. paul inspectors and how they would never imagine them sitting watching a load of money put into a property and then say "not good enough, tear her down". Hello it's greed and also the "plan".
Posted 27 Sep 2006 01:10 by Tom Goldstein
I think Steve's comments about his experiences in Highland Park and
Michelle's reports of how things have been treated on the east side (sorry,
Michelle, I think that's where you live) suggest there may be
inconsistencies with housing/inspection policies around the city. This
shouldn't come as a huge surprise, since I think it would be naive to assume
that in St. Paul every public employee has set aside his or her prejudices
and/or perceptions regarding people of color or those who live in low income
neighborhoods. I expect that as a middle class white guy with a law degree
I'm much better situated to navigate the system than someone earning minimum
wage who may have to work three jobs to make a mortgage payment. In other
words, both Steve and Michelle, and maybe even Nancy are right. The system's
not all bad, nor it is all good. In general, most everything I encounter
with government comes in shades of gray even though I wish that everybody
who is on a public payroll somewhere had a pleasant attitude, a strong work
ethic, and a "how can we help you" attitude. With any luck, that's where
things will be going during the Coleman administration.
Tom Goldstein
Hamline-Midway
If there is Anyone out there reading all these postings the last couple weeks and have anything like this happening to you, email Bob or go to the Watchdog Newspaper and call and ask for some good attorneys who will get right on it for you. For those of you sitting on the fence and have damages, now is the time to make that decision. People out there are being devestated as never before in st.paul. Can you imagine tearing down a perfectly good house after putting gobs of money into it? And this corruption was going on before, during and AFTER Katrina's destruction. These people are evil. Let's clean up the city for good. It starts with the administration as always.
I have noticed a few of them over at E-Democracy are basically admitting to the fact that the city has different standards when dealing with people, its all about who you are and where you live. I thought this was America where we were all suppose to be treated as equal, not depending on how much money you have or what color your skin or where you can afford to live. If your a well known fiqure in St.Paul there are different standards for you when it comes to home repair, you can take all the time you want. Thats the rule if you have the funds and sources to do repairs, if your just an average or below average your repairs are needed to be done immediately if not sooner, so you better find the funds and lots of them. Good luck because even if you do the city will add to the repair list and the result will be your not doing it good enough/fast enough, say goodbye to your home. Then we are suppose to beleive it is all in the best interest of everyone, the city cares about us! Thats the biggest joke I have ever heard the city has caused many families to become homeless and I also believe the city is causing the crime rate to increase. Sooner or later which I am sure it will be the city will learn the way to deal with issues is to actually deal with the issue not move it.
Since an earlier posting I have been watching some of those city council meetings, and I have noticed ont thing in particular that really seems unfair. The city wants to make you post a bond to be able to get a permit to fix your home. Why not just let the guy fix his house? You have a situation where most of the people prabably do not have an excess of money, and here is the city just deliberatly trying to make it harder to get the place fixed up. Maybe they are intentionaly making it easieer to fail so they can keep yout bond money.
This Steve Scholl guy sounds like a fool. He should stick to things he knows about. The city has almost a 1,000 vacant buildings that they the city had a hand in making them vacant so they could get their permit fees, etc. in getting them fixed up, foreclosures are overwehlming the poor neighborhoods, everyone and their mother is suing the city over the city's inspections program, a state Legislator has sueed the city of St. Paul for discriminatory inspections practices and not only won, but got damages for Attorney fees, and this guy thinks everything is just rosy. At least he is open to the fact that he may be naive, so maybe there is hope for him down the road.
I haven't heard anyone mention the fact thsat if the tenant really wanted their apartment repaired, they would be calling the landlord, NOT THE CITY. Most of these inspections start because the tenant does not or cannot pay the rent, and when the landlord tries to throw them out, that is the point where the tenants want the city and all of their advocates to come to bat for them. Big mean landlord, he won't let me live here for free, so please come out mr. inspector and help me punish him.
1:58 PM: Can you give some stories that happened to you or that you've heard about regarding the tenant issues and the city. Was a TRA involved. I think readers need to hear the truth about these too.
10:55 AM: Did you notice if everyone was required to post a bond? It would be interesting to see what percentage of those being condemned had to post one.
I looked at so many wideos iI cnnot keep them all straight. It seemed like 9 out of 10 had to post bail....I mean bond.....or maybe bail would be better. Come to think of it, extortion sounds good too. These people sit down there pretending to be giving you a fair hearing, and it is quite obvious that they have made up their minds before anyone says anything, and they hold your freedom in their hands and make you pay money to even think you have a chance of keeping your property. Many of the properties that come on for a hearing are ordered to be torn down "without the option to repair." these people are just a bunch of crooks masquarading as something else.
Don't worry all you property rights people it looks like St.Paul is starting to fall apart.It seems like everything concerning housing has big problems.
St.Paul will get what they deserve and its not going to be a pretty picture. Just watch how the crime rate goes up as people lose their homes and turn to a life of crime just to survive, and you know what its the city that will make these people feel like they have no other options.Todays paper has an interesting article about some of the city owned low income rental properties that are about to be sold. It states that these homes are in need of repair, about $40,000 in repairs, I would think a code compliance for these homes should be in the forcast, and how can a home in need of that many repairs be safe for these people to live in?? The city is all heart though because these low income families will get first chance to buy the home(if they qualify) I would be willing to bet ya if they were to buy the home a code compliance would be priority for the city to enforce upon the new homeowner. The other option for this one family of 7 is to move to a two bedroom apartment, wouldn't that be considered overcrowding or are they going to split the family up and give them two apartments?? The city has some idea's that are unbeleivable and to think these people get paid a real good salary.
Nancy (formerly of St.Paul)
The Jessamine house needed FAR LESS than $40,000. in repairs, but that had to be torn down cause it was so bad. Who do we call to order a :wrecking crew: for these 16 houses?
I wonder how these 16 homes got 40,000 behind on repairs with such a great proactive code enforcement department we have in St.Paul.Maybe its true what these RICO lawsuits say.Maybe the city has be treating their own differently.I would think that the city would want to protect the tenant the same no matter private or city owned property,right?Maybe the city can now feel the pinch of making costly repairs.Maybe the city feels their being watched with how they run their property.just think what would happen if the city had to bring a code compliance to every PHA home.Maybe they should just to lead by example,then will see ifthey have any housing to offer!!!!!!!!!!
I think you are all missing an important element here. Yes the PHA houses do need $40,000.00 in repairs, but what you guys are not keying into is what PHA is going to do with the money they get from selling these houses. The story in the papaer says they are going to use it to help fix their other houses that need repairs. One can only wonder what kind of shape those places are in.
It looks to me like the city of St. Paul is the real slumlord here. They pay no property taxes, no property insurance because the city is self insured, they don't pay for license plates on their repair vehicles, probably no truck insurance either, they pay NO INCOME TAX, no slaes tax, they pay no Attorney fees when they have to throw a tenant out, they have free police officers assigned to them through the Acop program, they are not nit picked to death with code inspectors like the private sector is, they don't get their properties demolished by the city, and yet not onlu can they not figure out how to maintiain their property, but they are out crushing the private sector landlords who pay for all of the above things every single month before the privste landlords even get a nickle for themselves.
From what I remember of the lawsuits by the landlords, it's starting to sound like they are not too far from right in what they are saying.
This should be interesting as it starts heating up.
To quote one of the fvorite phrases from the block clubs, "if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem."
So let me ask you Kathy Lantry....what is the city of St. Paul doing to deal with his problem of affordable housing and the citys role in making it worse or better? We are waiting for your answer Kathy.
Cities who have dilapitated houses shouldn't throw wrecking balls.
According to Wed. city counsil meeting the city feels that everyone else is to blame for the amount of vacant homes. Maybe the city needs some phone calls to refresh their memory of what they themselves are actually doing to contribute to the situation! The city needs to look at ways of helping people with property issues instead of making it an impossible task for one to acheive, new home codes for an older home is more than any home needs to be safe and habitable.
I also watched that Council meeting and had the exact same impression. Either these Council members are being lied to by the buracracy or they really believe that all is well with their inspections department and this current situation with vacant buildings and foreclosures is all the fault of someone else. Sure the market and a lot of other things are also causes in this, but the city has some fault here too. Either way, this is just the start of the problem. It is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better.
It hasn't been that long since the entire City Council was swept out of office by angry voters and if I were the Council, I don't think I would be feeling real secure right now. Property taxes are rising, crime is rising, lawsuits are mounting up, foreclosures and vacant buildings are rising, property values are dropping, and elections are coming next year. This City Council reminds me of Nero fiddling while Rome was burning.....they haven't got a clue. They wanna do research and blame it on someone else.....everyone else.....except for them that is. The events between now and next year's elections should be interesting.
That Council meeting is hilarious! Pat Harris is the only one in the whole bunch who seems to have any brains. The rest of then all have to get thier 2 cents worth in, but none of them know what they are talking about. Bostrom is probablt the biggest idiot. He thinks that because someone has a $100,000.00 in their hand, that they would rather walk away from an income producing asset they have owned for over a year, instead of putting $50.00 into replacing a water heater. These people are all brain dead!
Wheres Bob been? I haven't seen his input of thoughts or idea's at all this week????
Bob's probably sitting back and watching his site take off. This was one of the most enjoyable and longest threads thus far. Bob enjoy your weekend!
The quote of the day taken from post above:
Mike Fratto
Payne Phalen
651-771-4972
http://oyh.org
"The future depends more on
what we do between now and then
Than what we did in the past."
Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it. So when will st. Paul wake up and see what's HAPPENING now and what has in the past and do something about it? Or will it become a future example of shit gone wrong.
I've been sitting back also not believing my eyes. This city council is either a bunch of idiots with the same IQ or just a group of rejects that doesn't want to admit what they have done the last 4 years has destroyed this city.
Not once did anybody say anything worth while.Their solutions are only going to cripple this city even more.I really don't care anymore.I'll just sit back and watch it either get worse or the citizens of St.Paul to wake up.
Has anyone thought that the fact of these forclosures and vacants on rental properties might be the result of the Cities code enforcement?Why weren't any questions ask like, "How many houses were forclosed because they were put on the vacant list and unable to create rental income to support the mortgage?"
How about a house is condemned and then goes into forclosure.But why was it condemned?Was there behavior problems in the property?Did the city address them with code enforcement.Causing the landlord to lose their tenant and income to pay the mortgage?
Maybe a house was sitting vacant while trying to be rented out and the city put it on the vacant list.I've seen this happen time and time again.I've seen rental property being sold and sitting vacant when the city comes by and puts it on the vacant list.
Does anybody think its weird that its 1-2 unit structures that are the most vacant and forclosed upon?Maybe the fact that NHPI controls them and the fire dept. controls 3 and up is a sign of the predatory actions of this city.
Whats amazing is these council members and average citizens don't understand the thin profit margin month to month in rental property.Did the city understand that making landlords do unnecessary repairs,bringing TRA's against them,unlawfully putting structures on the vacant list,higher property taxes and so on might be the reason these houses are being forclosed on.
Well folks we've been saying it all along that the city wants to put private landlords out of business for some time.Now the proof and evidence is in.LOTS OF LANDLORDS ARE OUT OF BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!
Whats also funny is the cities all concerned for displaced tennants during a forclosure but when they throw them on the streets its ok.
Hey city council maybe landlords being blood thirsty slim balls trying to refi and keep rent until the property is forclosed upon sounds good but how about a structure needs to generate money for bills to be payed.Landlords aren't like the city they can't run deficits and depend on automatic rent increases like you guys can raise taxes.When landlords run deficits its bellies up.
Wake up city this is our town!!!!!!!!!!Solution: get rid of these crooks(city council) who are destroying our city.
TIM CIANI
JUMGGCS
Hey maybe by the time the GOP convention arrives St.Paul will have half the city listed as vacant, then the need for police protection of the public will be down being that there won't be many citizens left, thus leaving all the cops available for protection of the convention, what a break for the force no cost increase, no tax increase which is good cause their won't be many left to collect taxes from....What a beautiful way to show off a city( Make it a ghost town) with all the vacant condemned homes and all the homeless can hang out down town to show their support for the convention. What a plan the city counsil has going on....
So they want to show off the city huh? Maybe we should all get together and give them smme help. We could have protests at the convention just like they did at the Courthouse last year. Without too much trouble, we could make video interviews with the tenants they have put on the street as well as some of the landlords they have put out of business and post them on the U-tube thing on the internet....then link Bob's site here to it. I think there is much more we could do to expose these fools for what they are if we all put our heads together.
What scares me more about what the city is doing is their attitude about it....they realy think it is OK to act this way.
learn how to spell 2:22 and then you might get somewhere with your so called property rights group.The city's in a jam right now with all the vacants but the city council accomplished their objective and got the landlords out.Now its time to get these homes into owner occupied.No properties to rent,no undesirables.Mission complete.
3:40 Goodluck finding people to buy and occupy these homes. Most people are becoming aware of what the terms are to live in the city of St.Paul guess what, there not interested in living in St.Paul, they realize that they too will age as the years go by. Who in the right mind wants to buy a house pay for it for years then retire to have the city say get out! Like I said I wish the city the best of luck but the facts will become known by all one way or another. Maybe the city could turn these neighborhoods into corn fields I don't think corn fields cause much of a problem, just think of the money they could make (gas wise), I know theres gonna be enough vacant lots.
3:40: Learn to use proper grammar. When one cannot give a convincing argument, spelling will sometimes be used to side-step the issue. Someone also sounds very unhappy with the way things are going in the city. I think we better showcase this posting as it shows the truth as to what the objective of the city was, still is and will always be with this administration. Things are not going to go well for the people that you back 3:40! Dah, let's chase all the landlords out of st. paul and have houses sit vacant all over town. Then let's tear some down and try and put subsidized housing and condos in there. Who would want to buy into this and who would want to live there? The investors who are going to be coming in to invest are not going to be good for the city. I can't wait to see what 4-5 years in the future will look like for st. paul.
And no I'm not going to capitalize st. paul because they've been capitalizing enough on property owners!
I think 3:40 is afraid of some good old protesting. That is why he protests so loudly.
You are correct 3:40.....the city did accomplish their mission, and now they are going to pay for it, and when they do , we we'll see if you think the mission has been accomplished.
I am talking about the federal lawsuits against the city which are just allegations right now according you and your government can do no wrong buddies.
I've got some news for you pal....I know some of these landlords, and when you find out what the evidence is and who it is that has been providing a lot of it to these landlrods, you are not only going to be very suprised, but you will probably the first one trying to sell your house and bail out.
Kepp on talking. Since Repke, Mons and the other usual chickenshits are too afraid to come here with their empty arguments, you are providing us with some good entertainment.
Now if you will excuse , I am busy.........I have to go dmaage some screens and walls at a rental property.
9:26 we know that rental property ypur going to damage the screens on isn't a ciity owned one because those properties the windows are missing the screens, guess the city has different codes to follow.In fact the city just announced that most of their properties are in much needed repair in excess of $40,000 or more for each unit, I think the damage has been done! I also think the city could use someone to manage their properties for them since they don't seem to know how to manage or keep up with the maintenance on them. I wonder how someone that can't take care of their own properties can justify taking and condemning others(must be they have some connection with the housing code dept.)I have even seen some of the cityies vacant buildings with graffiti all over them yet they are still standing, maybe thats a designer paint job!
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