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Susette Kelo and Jeff Benedict, author of "Little Pink House: A True Story of Defiance and Courage," will appear on Hannity tonight between 9 and 10pm EST on the Fox News Channel. As you know, Susette's little pink house - along with the homes of her neighbors - were seized through eminent domain in a landgrab sanctioned by the U.S. Supreme Court. New London promised to put a glitzy new private development project on the land, but now, nearly four years after the ruling and $78 million in taxpayer money spent, literally nothing has been built on the land; it remains vacant, the neighborhood bulldozed.
We hope you can tune in tonight to hear about Susette's courageous battle that sparked a nationwide property rights movement.
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Christina Walsh
Director of Community Organization
Institute for Justice
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Wow, what a spin on Mobile/Exon's assault on the City of New London. Funding this case all the way to the Supreme Court bankrupting this City that had not just all of the elected official but the vast majority of the residents of the City and the United States Constitution 100% behind them.
As the Supreme Court said any state can chose to restrict the people right of Eminent Domain if they chose to, but it is the Public's Right of Eminent Domain.
ALL LAND IN THE COUNTRY IS FIRST A PART OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
We the people have the RIGHT to take the land back after paying just compensation.
This woman was offered five times the value of the land. And the people of New Londan have the right in the constitution to take their land back.
Its a story of defiance alright the story of how Mobile/Exxon will spend whatever it takes to stop cities from forcing them to clean up their oil poluted land. They paid for this case to try and get the laws changed out of sympathy for this woman.
And check out how much money the "institute for justice" get's from Mobile/Exxon and their corporate top dogs.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
More on this story here
5 years later and nothing built.
The city of New London demolished the property tax base of this community. They angered a good many of their citizens and citizens across this country. They wasted tax dollars on destroying the foundation of property rights.
I wonder if the Supreme Court would feel the same way today about their decision after knowing nothing has been developed on this seized property.
Chuck said;
Its a story of defiance alright the story of how Mobile/Exxon will spend whatever it takes to stop cities from forcing them to clean up their oil poluted land. They paid for this case to try and get the laws changed out of sympathy for this woman.
My response;
Chuck, I really didn't want to tread this path. Here in Saint Paul against the will of a "big oil company" their land was seized and the city went ahead and developed condos right on top of our very own Love Canal toxic waste site. The basement level of these homes are right about the level of the old fuel storage tanks.
Chuck I thought Barack was going to work with both sides.Looks like it didn't work.Not a one-Yes I said not a one,even liberal republican went for the shit social bail out.Looks like its all your teams now.Good luck with it.Might as well put your name on it to so when it fails we can hang ya!About time the Republicans stood up for their principals.YES!
Brian
This is Thunes deal on West 7th. Bob, you are right these buildings are built right in this soil. The oil companies wanted to hold the land so it wouldn't be developed because of the stuff in the ground.
When these people start getting sick, Thune will be the first to blame the oil company, when it is he that should be blamed. Isn't it grand that Trader Joes is going up on Randolf and Lexington. Thune wanted it on 7th in this oil pit.
Activist angered by u.s. Supreme Courts decision ruling that homes can be demolished for developments, are trying to seize the Home of Justice Souter, who ruled on the New London case.
The activest want to build a hotel.
This I would love to see !!!
Jeff Matiatos
Bob, you are right that Mobile/Exxon successfully funded this fraud all the way to the Supreme Court taking years and destroying the small community of New London's opportunity to redevelop the site.
MOBILE/EXXON and Ms KELO'S delays are 100% the reason why the development didn't occur. It took so long that the investors finally went somewhere else. So thanks to Mobile/Exxon New London was destroyed.
As to the fight in West Seventh street, it has been as some have said here much the same thing, and a great example of why Mobile/Exxon spent the money on Kelo and continues to fund the Institute for Justice.
All of the land in the United States of America, is a part of one country, the USA. When you get deed to land, you don't get to seceed from the Union and form your own country. The land is still a part of the USA. If at some point the public/the USA wants its land back, through the public's right of eminent domain it can take its land back. It is required in the constitution to pay you "just compensation."
But, what drives Mobile/Exxon crazy is that they are still liable for the toxic waste that they have dumped on the land. The courts continue to rule that the public is able to get Mobile/Exxon to take their pollution with them when they go. So, yes on West Seventh what they wanted to do is fence off the land and leave it as a empty polluted waste land for the next thousand years.
And, you are Damn Straight that Dave Thune wasn't going to let them. That development on West Seventh Street has to be cleaned by Mobile/Exxon to the point that you should be able to eat the tomatoes grown on the site without worry. If not Mobile/Exxon has the liability.
That is the reason for Kelo.
That is the reason why they destroyed New London.
That is the fight that the public has had with the wealthy land barons for two hundred years.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
But they can't take Indian lands under eminent domain, right ?
What they want to do on West Seventh is what 3M has done with its polluted cites in Oakdale, Lake Elmo, and the pollution that has seeped into Bayports water supply.
Fence it all in.
Mary Devine is a leading reporter for Washington County and is willing to publish all sorts of news worthy matter out there.
Bob, you might want to contact her.
Jeff Matiatos
You got it Jeff.
The polluters believe that they should be able to just put a fence around their dumps and let them rot.
They don't give a damn about the property values of the land near by, its not their problem, what do they care.
So, like I said, think about it. Isn't Ms Kelo the perfect person for them to fund her case to the Supreme Court and use that to get the State's to restrict the people's power to force this multi-national corporations to clean up their messes?
As the Supreme Court said in their decision there was nothing new about Kelo. Prior Supreme Courts had ruled that "public purpose" was not restricted to use by the general public. Everyone knew that New London would win, the only issue was how long would it take and how much would it cost.
What changed was we had the face of the little old lady from salt of the Earth small town America fighting the government that wanted to turn her humble home into a hotel/convention center. Now we had a rallying point where otherwise reasonable legislator would feel forced to vote to screw their own constituants in their fight against decay and support Mobile/Exxon.
It was a purely brilliant move by Mobile/Exxon.
It changed the face of the debate.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Hey Repke if you want to build something, then the government has the whole godamn country to find a place to build whatever they want and no one would give a hoot. Stay off private land with you cokeyed development schemes you creep.
The polluters believe that they should be able to just put a fence around their dumps and let them rot.
My response-
Folks, I spoke with the crew drilling core samples at the old fuel storage site on Otto and West 7th. before the development started. This crew was determining the extent of the leeched fuel into the soil beneath the storage facility site.
They informed me there is thousands of gallons of fuel that has leeched into the ground water below the storage facility site.
There is no quick fix for this problem. You just can't pump it out. You can't remove millions of tons of contaminated dirt and rock from acres of land that stretch far beyond the site. Ground water has carried the leeched fuel.
Imagine this, a pit dug down to the river level expanding for blocks in either direction of the fuel storage site. Jeeesh, it would look like a large strip mine.
The best thing for this property would have been to leave it fenced in and let bacteria in the soil break down these toxic elements. It takes years.
So you see there is a reason for just fencing a site like this in.
Bob you really do believe that the wealthy and powerful can do what ever they want to do and the rest of the country should just sit there and take it.
No, Bob they have a responsibility to dig that shit up and pay to do it. They don't have a right to destroy the planet or a city just because the have more money than God.
Some of us are willing to fight the rich and powerful and then there are those who will always be there lackies.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
dig that shit up and pay to do it. They don't have a right to destroy the planet or a city just because the have more money than God.
Some of us are willing to fight the rich and powerful and then there are those who will always be there lackies.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
My response;
Chuck, do you read what you write. IF, you believe this, WHY did our city leaders go ahead and build on this land? Chuck, tear all those new buildings DOWN! Tear the homes down around this site. Then dig Saint Paul's very on strip mining pit.
Also, don't you think the city bares some of the responsibility? Didn't past city leaders allow this site to be constructed there? What responsibility to the citizens does the city bare? I know the city never does any wrong in your book Chuck. They are your friends.
The blame game has worked well for local politicians.
The city was happy to have Big Oil set up shop on that land as long as the city got thier dirty tax money. As time got better, then they have people like Repke preaching his "we the people" shit. Just like the landlords you say burn trenants for cash Chuck, the city moved innocent people onto that landl so they could have a devlopment going which would pay boo koo taxes so they could keep upo their insane spending.
Where was DSI when the leaks were taking place ?
Wasn't somebody watching these guys throughout the course of its operations ?
1:39 makes a great point and it seems entirely hypocritical for the city to treat present day landlords like this and to have ignored these ground polluters all this time.
You got caught with your pants down on Bobs 11:54 post.
If you can answer that Chuck with something that trumps it, you are the Greatest spinner of all time !
Jeff Matiatos
I should have also said this last night. What would we do with all the contaminated dirt excavated from the site? Create another contaminated site by moving it someplace else.
It doesn't make sense.
Actually Bob that is what they do. The contaminated soil is moved off of the site and through a process (basically burned) the contaminated soil is either cleaned or put in a hazardous land fill.
This project isn't my project and even though you think it Thune and I don't share one brain so I don't know the details of the deal, but before any of those homes were constructed the land had to be brought up to residential standard.
I believe everything that you see constructed so far is on the part of the site that was owned by Koke and not by Mobile/Exxon and that Koke paid for the clean up as a condition of selling the property.
The land that has been polluted by Mobile/Exxon is the empty land (downhill) to the East and South of where the houses have been built.
The last I knew they were still in court debating to what level Mobile/Exxon will clean the site and how much it will cost.
The only reason why there is any chance that this will be cleaned at all to any standard is because the City made their eminent domain claim BEFORE the state of Minnesota changed the damn law. Under the new laws passed in Minnesota after Kelo, this site is not considered blighted and can not be acquired through eminent domain for redevelopment.
In fact in Minnesota there may not be any site left that is "blighted" enough to be taken for redevelopment under the new law.
So, in Minnesota thanks to Ms Kelo, Mobile/Exxon and 3M and every other multinational corporation that owns polluted land can just turn out the lights, knock down the buildings and put a fence around the dump before they move on to the next site to pollute.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Let me get out my violin Repke. So what if they fold up shop and vacate. If ya don't like it, have your City Council buddies make em put in some nice trees. Call it a park of some sort. Lots of open space and then pat yourselves all on the back for being so green!
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