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Tuesday, August 05, 2008

2nd Lake Phalen baseball-bat beating occurs near scene of vigil for Friday assault (There is an UPDATE to this post in the comments)

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Blogger Bob said...

By Bob Shaw and Mara H. Gottfried
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 08/05/2008 12:19:04 AM CDT

It was like an attack on peace itself.

A candlelight vigil following last week's baseball-bat beating was under way Monday evening at St. Paul's Lake Phalen when another baseball-bat assault happened only blocks away.

"This only shows we can't go out anymore in the neighborhood we grew up in," snapped one woman, furious at the similar attacks on the trail around Lake Phalen. "We can't even be safe during the day!"

St. Paul police arrested three suspects in the Monday assault who roughly match the description of the assailants in Friday's assault — three young Asian men.

The two 18-year-old victims in the latest attack, a man and a woman, had minor injuries and declined medical attention.

St. Paul police spokesman Peter Panos said Monday night it remains unclear whether the two attacks are related. But vigil marchers made a connection.

"It certainly seems ironic to me," said Sue Frelich, a 30-year friend of the victim of the Friday assault.

The evening began quietly in the parking lot of Arlington Hills Presbyterian Church, near the scene of the Friday attack.

The 100 people at the 7 p.m. vigil were marching in support of the victim identified only as "Tammie," who is in her 40s and suffering from breast cancer.

The church's interim pastor, the Rev. Howard Dotson, helped organized the community march. He had only been on the job three weeks but said his years in the rough neighborhoods of Los Angeles had prepared him well.

"We need to reclaim this space that has been polluted by violence," he said. "We need to push back, in a loving way."
Frelich said Tammie's breast cancer had metastasized into about 40 separate tumors. Chemotherapy made her sensitive to sunlight — which is why she walked by the neighborhood lake at night.

About 12:30 a.m. Friday, she saw the three attackers by a willow tree.

"She told me she said, 'Stop! I have cancer!' " Frelich said, sipping a Diet Coke in the heat.

Tammie's middle finger was severed as a result of the attack, and she suffered multiple fractures in both hands and a broken wrist. She had surgery at Regions Hospital to put pins in her left hand.

Frelich was outraged.

"How long will it take her to recover from this — so she can move on to the rest of her suffering?" she said.

Just as the march was ready to begin, several police cars shot past the church.

Suddenly, a sister of Tammie's pulled into the parking lot and told onlookers she and her children had just witnessed another baseball-bat assault.

The news rattled the crowd, but the vigil proceeded as planned.

During the march, Kurt Adamson of KJ Catering said he had just delivered a week's supply of food. It was donated not only for Tammie, he said, but for the others she cares for — two aging Alzheimer's disease sufferers in a foster care program, her two children and one grandchild.

When the group got to the site of the attack, Dotson recalled how Tammie was assaulted.

"This is tragedy upon tragedy," said Dotson. Amid the occasional bark of a dog and honking of horns, Dotson led the group in prayer.

The vigil ended when the flames from a few cigarette lighters were passed from candle to candle until the whole crowd glowed. Thin and off-key strains of "We Shall Overcome" rose through the downcast branches of the willow tree.

One of Tammie's sisters, Linda, gritted her teeth.

"We have to remain" — she clenched a fist — "positive."

Bob Shaw can be reached at or 651-228-5433. Mara H. Gottfried can be reached at or 651-228-5262.

10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Push back with love ? WTF!!!!!!!!

12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, this is what I am hearing on the streets. Victims last night were South East Asians and they are lock solid on the ID's of the perps from last night. Victims were out for a walk around the lake, male and female. No relation to the attackers.

Chances are actually good that these guys are the same one's that hit the woman the other night.

One of the perps live not far from the scene and was picked up at his house.

No motives other than young drunk and stupid.


Chuck Repke

1:45 PM  
Anonymous alex said...

Thanks Chuck...

I live near the attacks. My wife and I didn't dare to go outside.

Alex Wendt
East Side Pride

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Says a great deal about the way the children are being educated by their parents. Children on the east side seem to have lost their moral compass - or were never raised with one. I fear this is only the beginning of the further decline of the east side and more specifically, the Payne-Phalen neighborhood.


2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just keep prosecuting the landlords and demolishing houses.....everything's gonna be just fine.

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


West 7th. Street is going to hell too!

2:46 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

7 arrested in baseball bat attack on couple near vigil
By Mara H. Gottfried
Article Last Updated: 08/05/2008 12:33:44 PM CDT

Seven people are under arrest in Monday's baseball bat assault on a couple at St. Paul's Lake Phalen, which occurred around the time of a candlelight vigil for a woman who was attacked at the lake Friday, police said today.

Police continue to investigate whether the attacks are connected, said Peter Panos, St. Paul police spokesman.

Six juveniles and one adult were arrested. Three of the people are believed to be in a gang and the others are thought to have gang ties, Panos said.

Monday's assault occurred about 6:50 p.m., as a married couple, both 18, were walking around Lake Phalen. A group of people had been chasing someone and, as they passed the couple, "they stopped and turned on them," Panos said.

After the bat assault, the couple had minor injuries, but declined medical attention, Panos said.

Three juveniles were caught running from the scene and arrested, Panos said. Their ages weren't known today.

A witness described a white van connected with the attack and police later stopped it. Three juveniles — two 17-year-olds and one 16-year-old — who were inside were arrested. A 22-year-old man in the van, Richard Lor, was arrested on suspicion of possessing a pistol without a permit and crime benefitting a gang.

A gun found in the van wasn't used during the assault, Panos said.

Monday night's vigil at Lake Phalen, which started at 7 p.m., was for a woman in her 40s who was attacked early Friday as he walked around the lake.

The woman, who asked to be only identified as Tammie, has breast cancer and pleaded with the strangers who came after her with baseball bats, "I have cancer. What are you beating me for?"

Tammie said three people tried to repeatedly smash her head with baseball bats, but she held up her hands to protect her head. Her hands and arms took the brunt of the blows — her middle finger was severed, and she has multiple fractures in both hands and a broken wrist. She needed surgery to put pins in her hand.

Leslie McMurray, executive director of the Payne Phalen District Five Planning Council, said the best thing people in the neighborhood can do now is participate in National Night Out events tonight.

"Fear festers when there is a sense of isolation," she wrote in an e-mail. "Neighbors who know their neighbors are our best tool for building a safe, strong community."

People who want to create a neighborhood watch or "peace patrol" can call the council at 651-774-5234.

2:52 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Leslie McMurray, executive director of the Payne Phalen District Five Planning Council, said the best thing people in the neighborhood can do now is participate in National Night Out events tonight.

my response-
Something else citizens can do is-

Get a permit to carry, defend yourself, and blow these hoodlums brains out when they pull this crap.

Chuck you mollycoddle criminals minimizing this incident. It is all to obvious these thugs were out gang banging.

3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take offense to you saying Chuck molly coddles thugs. He has no law enforcement rights that you or I do not. He tries (albeit in his own liberal ineffectual way) to make the neighborhood better. But one can do only so much with a real estate license, friends in high places (wink, wink), a community development company and a business association.

Come on, we all know we need more law enforcement and what with the budget tightened to help pay for the many frivolous suits by scumbag landlords, you know we'll never see the numbers we need to stem the tide of violence in our community. I call for a protest march against all landlords in Saint Paul who are obviously the cause of this violence against park users by gangs of asian youths.

Stop the landlords - Stop the violence! Turn all rental housing over to the City of Saint Paul and our town (he,he) will be a much safer place!


3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the best thing Bob ever said

Get a permit to carry, defend yourself, and blow these hoodlums brains out when they pull this crap.

But "Gun Control" is another way to control the civil minded people.
Self protection from intruders to our home or homeland, we had a constitutional right to bare arms.
We can't trust others to defend us or our country, they take away our rights and take away our freedom.
Let's allow some other countries people to walk right thru our boarders and they can get arms, but a upright citizen is a target to any intruder.
I'm sure if we had arms to protect our homes from intruders,
Nancy O's home would still be intact.
The city council would not try to do like they did in Germany, they were taking everything that they could from the country.
Witch nationality were taking over there, the same that are lawyers, judges, politicians, they just want to take over the world.
They killed Jesus because he wouldn't bow down to them, we will not bow down either.

3:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop the landlords - Stop the Violence......the city has just such a program, it's called code compliance and it works wonders. Raises the cost of renting a home so high that no one can afford it, thus they live on the reservation (PHA) where they can be controlled easier or they leave town. Get rid of the nest and get rid of the critter!

3:47 PM  
Anonymous alex said...

Good job to the police officers who caught these guys!

Alex Wendt
East Side Pride

3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:45, is there black helicopters outside your window?

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


My only point was that there was no rational reason for either one of the assaults. I wasn't molly coddling anyone.

I worked in corrections for 15 years and I personally sent more people back to prison during that time then most cops will in their entire career. I was the guy that called MPLS PD to take someone out of the half way house when we were terminating them... "good morning MR Smith these gentlemen from MPLS PD are here to remove you from the building and hold you in lock up till your violation hearing...see you in a few years..."

My comment was to make it clear that these little jerk offs were assaulting people for no reason at all. The victims didn't know them. The victims race didn't matter. The victims weren't mistaken for someone else. The victims weren't being robbed.

There is no excuse for crime, but we in the public get some relief that the world is sane if the assault was a part of a drug deal or a domestic or even a robery. My point was that there was no motive, these were just stupid drunken punks.


Chuck Repke

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you appear to have some experience with crime and it's perps huh Chuck? You a tough guy Repke?

4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You go - You Go- YOU GO - CHUCK!


4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One other thing Bob, what had most of the cops a little stunned on the issue of this being "gang banging" was that the victim was a 40+ year old woman.

Most gang bangers want to assault an adult or teenage male. It shows how big and strong they are to suprise someone with a baseball bat and hit him over the head... but at least it was a man they took out, even if it was an old man.

In this case it was a middle aged woman and multiple perps no robery, no rape.

Not a very macho thing.

So, if it is "gang" related, it isn't much of a "gang." Pretty much a gang of want to be punks.

Again, that is why I wouldn't credit this gagle of punks as being a gang.


Chuck Repke

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, I am not a "tough guy" are you a moron 4:31?

I was a case worker and then the supervisor of the counseling staff in a half way house in Mpls dealing with men coming out of the prison system. About 1/2 of them couldn't keep their shit together for 4 months and it was a part of my job to make sure that their termination from the program was coordinated with Hennipen County so that they would be removed by Mpls PD.

The most successful way to do that was to wake them up in the morning with two MPLS police officers on my side with cuffs.

I left corrections on 12/31/89 to go to work for the City of St Paul.


Chuck Repke

4:56 PM  
Anonymous 4:31 said...

Yes Chcuk I am kind of a moron. That's why I like reading your stuff hear. Looks to me like your a snitch Repke. Its not nice to snitvh Chuck. God doesn't like it.

7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuckie has realestate to think about and incidents like this aren't good for business.

Chuck isn't molly coddling then Bob, he is trying to cover his ass!

I hope this give you a clue.

8:25 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Chuck is right about one thing. They are wanna be gang bangers and that really makes them dangerous.

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is there black helicopters outside your window?

4:21 PM

Take off that damn tin foil hat Hitler. Those helicopters are from the St.Paul Airport, they are Army national Guard.

6:13 AM  

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