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Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Invest Saint Paul Funds Used To Pay For Demolition Of Homes.

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Blogger Bob said...

WHEREAS, the Housing and Redevelopment Authority of the City 1 of Saint Paul,
2 Minnesota (the “HRA”) is a public body corporate and politic established pursuant to the
3 provisions of Minnesota Statutes, Section 469.001, et seq. (the “Act”); and
5 WHEREAS, the HRA has duly adopted and there is now in effect a City-Wide
6 Redevelopment Plan for acquisition, demolition or rehabilitation activities; and
8 WHEREAS, the HRA recognizes the need to assist in the demolition of vacant and
9 deteriorated properties to support the improvement of the City’s neighborhoods and
10 housing stock and maintain safe housing for its residents; and
12 WHEREAS, the HRA adopted an Invest Saint Paul Initiative Program and Budget in
13 August 2007 in order to assist in the improvement of targeted neighborhoods; and
15 WHEREAS, the HRA has determined that the transfer of $640,000 in ISP funds to the
16 Department of Safety and Inspections for the demolition of vacant and deteriorated
17 properties in ISP areas will assist in the stabilization activities identified in the ISP
18 Program adopted by the HRA.
20 NOW, THERFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Commissioners of the
21 Housing and Redevelopment Authority of the City of Saint Paul, Minnesota, that:
23 1. The HRA Board approves a budget transfer of $640,000 to the Department of
24 Safety and Inspections in the amendment to the Year 2008 HRA Budget for HRA
25 Development Capital Projects Fund #118 - Invest Saint Paul as shown in
26 Attachment A to this resolution.

2:38 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Requested Board Action
Approval of a $640,000 amendment to the Housing and Redevelopment Authority’s Invest Saint
Paul (“ISP”) Budget and transfer of funds to the Department of Safety and Inspections (“DSI”)
to fund the demolition of vacant properties.
The DSI has requested the HRA, through the ISP, to assist in the funding of demolition costs for
approximately 56 vacant properties in the six ISP neighborhoods or areas immediately adjacent
to the ISP areas. DSI has worked with the affected ISP neighborhoods and has received input
and recommendations for prioritizing the vacant building demolitions. HRA staff supports the
continuation of this activity to remove the most deteriorated properties that are financially
infeasible to rehabilitate. The City Council is required to have final approval of any vacant
property to be demolished. A resolution will be considered by the City Council to accept the
budget transfer.
Budget Action
Amend the Invest Saint Paul Budget as shown in Attachment A to the HRA Resolution.
All proper City permits will be required.
Public Purpose
Detoriated and blighting vacant property is removed.
Page 2 of 3
The Executive Director recommends approval of the attached HRA resolution which amends the
Invest Saint Paul Budget and transfers $640,000 to the Department of Safety and Inspections
Budget for the demolition of vacant properties.
Sponsored by: Commissioner Thune
Staff: T. Sanchez 266-6617
· Attachment A -- HRA Resolution

2:40 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

I'm waiting for the resolution to use the money for legal fees against the mounting law suits.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What money? The city attorney seems to be handling this quite well on her city salary without a lot of help.

What expense do you think the city has to cover at this point?

(Invest St Paul is about improving the neighborhoods based on the neighbors perspective- you know the ones who actually live there and are invested in their neighborhoods. Barring some legal violations, that's the way it should be.)


3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the landlords are not invested int neighborhood Eric? What planet do you live on?

6:32 PM  
Anonymous Leslie K. Lucht said...

Spend more money that is use for something else. A good plan Mr.
Mayor. Let sell more bonds for
home fix up. And use the money
to pay for building more low income housing. Right Lee H..

Let steal some more properties from the old and the crazy people. Right Kathy L..

Hey tear down Dan B. Let tear down
every house in frogtown and the east side. So, we can raise the property taxes on the people that
fixs their homes. And sit on the lots for three or four years and
sell them to someone to build in the areas. the down the road so, we taxes the hell out of them.
Its sounnds like a hell idea.
Mr. mayor

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with Les on this one, tear em all down and build em back up and tax the living hell out of em. It's win win....the nest is gone....the critters have left.....and now just rich white people living in our perfect little Mayberry.

10:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I swear you guys would complain if they hung you with a new rope....

First you claim that the City is stealing the properties by condemnation and now when they are actually buying properties to nock them down you scream about that.

There is just no win in this is there?


Chuck Repke

11:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There should be people living in those houses Repke. Knocking them down does nothing for affordable housing. What do you know about housing anyways? Your an idiot!

2:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your city is behaving badly Chuck.

6:10 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Eric, the city has been ordered to pay some of the plaintiffs attorney fees. The city has paid for document copy fees in the THOUSANDS of dollars. The city has paid an independent contractor to retract the emails. This list goes on.

These RICO suits are costing us tax payers thousands now and will be costing us well over the million dollar mark by the time ALL the law suits are filed.

And Dawkins thought these types of suits would be a badge of honor. What a freckin FOOL!

7:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lines 5 and 6 of the resolution document the benefits (a redevelopment plan) - necessary to establish RICO. The attitude is that the end justifies the means (break whatever laws are necessary) - screw all the people who made the city what it is, and cash in. This is sick, Chuck and Eric.

9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric get a clue.I remember the citys head attorney say the these lawsuits are taking there toll on all departments.But you have selective hearing my little wipping boy.
We will see you at Billys when the ricomen kick the citys ass right past your eastside shithole slim!


11:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK - I'll say this again. These are funds to buy vacant houses and to demo them. The bulk of these will be purchasing them from the banks after one of your friends have milked all of the money from them and then defaulted on the mortgage.

What I know about housing is that I deal with it every day. The vast majority of the properties that we see as vacants on the East Side were not made vacant because of a DSI inspection they were made vacant because some fly by night investor bought the property during the housing bubble at to high of a price with little down and low payments and wasn't able to refinance now that the balloon has come.

This BS that the issue has come from the City or from DSI is nothing but BS. You guys are so far from the real world it isn't funny.

I deal with these properties every day.


Chuck Repke


Chuck Repke

12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your crazy Chuck. You say the reason these places are empty are because "fly by night investors" buying them during the housing bubble>" What about the people that were forced to sell to those so called fly by night investors? My guess is that they wouldn't have sold at all if they hadn't fallen vcitim to the citys illegal agenda to force them out of business with illegal code enforcement actions. Those owners would still have their property and they wouldn't be vacant today. Your city got what it asked for Chuck. They raised the br too high and people started abandoning property.

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, the only thing you bitchers and moaners haven't complained about is the blighted property in the city.

1. Do you believe there is any in Saint Paul?

2. What do you think should be done about it?

From all that's written here, the city and residents are only going after good quality housing.
Who let you out of your closet. Your stench is growing with this heat. Please disappear, you know your life and views matter to no one. Die.

You have only pointed out some normal functions of the city budget. It doesn't add up to the half year salary of a non-union receptionist. With cutbacks and hiring freezes, I'm sure the money is plentiful in the effort to beat back this half-baked lawsuit that seems to always be just about to blow something open- but never does.


2:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

None of you are housing experts, so look at what the experts who follow these trends around the nation say:
Click Here For Bloomberg Report

Most of you know of nothing outside of your neighborhood let alone St Paul. This housing crisis is the worst since the depression and St Paul doesn't even rank in the worst of the top 100. Knowing that, your fighting facts and ignoring facts will always make for a sloppy case. Anyone can drag a case on (email copies, affidavits) but, to win one takes a clear understanding and articulation of the facts being on your side.

They are not. 99.9% of St Paul disagrees with you.


2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:05 said... "My guess is that they wouldn't have sold at all if they hadn't fallen vcitim to the citys illegal agenda to force them out of business with illegal code enforcement actions."

You guys don't have a clue how insane those comments are do you?

There are over a thousand vacant buildings out there. The City in a good year of extremely tough enforsement would be hard pressed to write up a hundred of them. You never see more than five on the Public Hearings agenda and there are only two of them a month.

This problem of vacant buildings is a NATIONAL problem it is happening everywhere. The cause is people that bought high with little down that are unable to refinance under the current market conditions.

Open up a freaking newspaper.


Chuck Repke

2:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We prefer to open up a lawsuit and read it instead Chuck. The facts are overwehlming. Why don't you find out what your talking about before you make a fool of yourself?

4:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the city city has such clean ahnds Chuck and Eric, then how come all the property owners who according to you are so cheap and greey that they wouldn't even spend a nickle on their own mothers house are lining up to pay these attorneys thousands of dollars to sue the city of St Paul? Too many people saying the same thing boys. Too many of them putting their money where the facts are. All you guys have is a big mouth that spews half baked rehtoric. Staqrt saving your money, there's going to be some judgements that have to paid!

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah you are going to sue and win and we taxpayers are going to have to pay, blah, blah, blah, yeah, yeah.

You landlords and Nancy have been signing this same song forever. Get to end.

You have no clue how the budget is done and the limits on taxation could very keep your lawyers broke, do you?

Or, the taxpayers of Saint Paul won't feel one iota of discomfort from this failed suit.

Keep singing.


4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The limits on taxation is fine Eric. No problem, maybe the landlords will just start taking assetts.....Como or Battle Creek park maybe. get your head out of you ass man.

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck and Eric your statements are like a Bush supporter saying we are in a war against islamic extremist who cares if were fighting them in Iraq or Afganistan. Have you ever thought that the city made the problem worse you D-horns.

And Chuck I have 7 houses I'll list later that the city caused forclosure-Alright Bud!

8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares?If Eric and Chuck don't care-who the hell cares.Eric doesn't care about his own kind and Chuck a democratic spin doctor doesn't care about the shitbags and thugs they say they want to help.Yeah guys stand up for the poor.Bullshit-the only people I see doing it are the ricomen-Eric your an empty suit my friend.

So let these elites of St.Paul kick these shitbags and thug blacks out of this town.They look like idiots walking down the street with a limp and a bandana.Who should care? They don't add to society or help right Eric and Chuck?I get your drift.F-um.

Ya'll look where Eric hangs out.He don't give a shit for his people.Don't let him fool ya with his rhetoric.Eric grow up and quit talking to people like you own this town-Fix your slumshack and then you can talk.


8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunate for our discussions here, and maybe fortunate for the landlords, Eric and Chuck have the same mindset of the absent minded and agenda driven city officials. They are so focused on the small things, and so distracted with their spin and denial, that they don't see the train coming down the track that's going to run them over! What the city has been doing is wrong and illegal Chuck. The Supreme Court has said so, and soon a Federal Court will also come to the same conclusion. You guys need to learn how to read the court order. The city cannot enforce anything that's more than what the State Building Code says, and they have been going above the State Code for years. Ricomen are about to mop the floor with your city officials Chucky boy.

3:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, try again what is it that the City has enforced that is more than the code? I asked that before and got total silence, because there isn't anything.

As I said in a different thread, declaring a building unfit for habbitation because it has no power or water isn't a "building code" issue it is a public health issue and the court said their order did nothing to limit the City's ability to deal with the public health.


Chuck Repke

7:16 AM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

Having your utilites shut off does NOT constitute a PUBLIC health hazard. That is a PRIVATE action that affects a PRIVATE person.

Please, somebody tell me:

Are ANY of these funds from the federal government? If so, can you verify that?

If federal funds are being used for ANY of this shit, then we can go in federal courts with a Qui Tam action. The federal appellate court has already ruled that these sort of actions violate our rights secured by the federal constitution.

If we can tie federal funding for the City to violate the federally secured rights of the Citizens then we can get an injunction and stop this shit..NOW!

10:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey "Bradley" tell me where my people hang out. Tell me how this affect my people.

Go ahead explain yourself. You couldn't possibly be saying that my people are the only renters of shit-property in this city and that's the only place they live- could you?

As far as my house goes, its Better Homes and Gardens material.
Take a trip to the Phalen neighborhood (North of Maryland, East of Payne to East Shore Drive and South of Larpenteur) you'll see plenty of well kept homes that could fit in Highland Park, St Anthoney or Kingsfield over in Minneapolis. Many of these homes are inhabited by black and Asian families.

So, that's three things that you don't have clue about in just one post- and I haven't even corrected you on the not caring about my people comment.

I care that those who are forced to rent from low income providers are not subjected to the health, safety and sanitary concerns of some of these rental shacks. For that same money there are newer developments and some nicer public housing.

So, if they tear all of your blighted eyesights down- great. We've got vacancies now in much newer and nicer subsidized properties.

We all are not dependent upon slumlords Chief. Suck on that.


10:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that's the worst definition of Qui Tam I ever heard. You didn't even try to come close, you just redefined the whole damn term.

I'll give you time to look it up. Don't ask me, you're the legal beagle. I'm not here to educate anyone, just to laugh and watch this train crash up close.

You've got to be the dumbest box of rocks since, well, since K-Tel's Box of Rocks (just 9.99).


10:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one is saying that is is "your" people exclusively that rent, but they are saying that it is "your" people that are being targeted Eric.

And we're not talking about the nrighborhood north of Maryland and E hore drive where Mr Bostrom lives either....we're talking about the lower East Side where the single moms making less than $20,000. on welfare live. Do they rent to these people up around Larpentuer and hore Dive Eric.

I doubt you live in a "Homes % Garden" type place either, it's probably more of a "Thune class" property.

Thee might be newer developments and nicer Public Housing Eric, but they won't rent to the people with troubled pasts so that leaves the people you're so happy about being run out business. How about if I just pop you in your head and maybe that would knock some sense into you?

10:43 AM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

Qui Tam is normally brought under the False Claims Act, although I have read the Congressional committee minutes concerning Qui Tam actions and the intent of the legislation was much broader than how it is currently used.

Arguing legislative intent, with the verified committee meeting minutes would sustain an action in federal court against the City in a Qui Tam action.

I just need to know:

Has the City received FEDERAL funding for ANY of the shit they are doing against the property owners?

10:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everything you said makes no sense after 'False Claims Act'.

Invest Saint Paul went to all neighborhood organizations and sent mailing to people who live in the targeted areas homes inviting them to one of several public hearings. There was a huge kickoff last year. Its been all over the news. Aren't you the one always lecturing us about getting involved in our neighborhood? How did you miss this?

You got any questions about Invest St Paul, call them and ask. Try not to be a jerk and you'll get answers.

When are you going to explain your basis for thinking that this is something wrong?

If you know my neighborhood, then you know I'm not lying as our street has been featured in publications, and since it wasn't Sh*thole Monthly, it must indicate there is a unique appeal to it from the other parts of th Eastside.

As far as public housing goes, my fight is with them to allow individuals who've had past indiscretions (case by case) rent if there are children involved.

You seem fine with the idea that if someone has a record in the past, they must live in squalor. Excuse me if I disagree.

And, if you are a repeat offender of criminal activity, maybe St Paul is not the place for you- white, black, asian, hispanic and indian.


11:20 AM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

If federal funds were used to violate the federally secured rights of the people, then it qualifies as a FALSE CLAIM under the federal statute...DUH.

Go read the 14th Amendment. The state and/or city can be sued. Qui Tam is tied into the 14th amendment.

A Qui Tam was already taken against the state of Minnesota (and other states) for using federal funds "inappropriately".

Seeking relief against the City in the federal court under Qui Tam is a "been there done that" type of lawsuit.

11:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm just trying to figure out your line of thinking Nancy.

Wrong. I'll help you. False Claims Act refers to and entity defrauding the Federal Government.

It has not happened before in the scenario you're using because, well you're nuts, but, because you're assuming the city is violating rights (which hasn't be determined by a court) using federal funds.

1. The city is not mis-using funds.
2. No one has proved that the city is violating rights with any funds.
3. Violating rights is NOT defrauding.
4. You know the law like my dog knows wine.

You still haven't defined qui tam in any of this.
Much like the rest of your life and your stories you tell on here, you chose to take a position without checking the facts so that it escalates and you're able to cite something you read. Call the fucking office for Invest St Paul and ask about the funding. Call one of the two to six attorneys that are experts on the False Claims Act in Minnesota (we actually don't have a statue in Minn.), and ask one of those attorneys does this fantasy of yours even apply.

Your problem Nancy is that you can't follow through a simple one two step like that to be sure you're on solid ground before raising cane. See, if you don't raise cane and get attention, you feel you have no value.

Learn to be OK with who you are Nancy and help your daughter out. Stop grandstanding on everything.

You stumbled into area with which I have some familiarity and am seeing how wrong and misinformed you are.
You can't read yourself into being an expert on something as complex as the law. You have to get out there and practice it and interact with others who practice it.


12:25 PM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

I have already checked this out with attorneys that have brought Qui Tam actions. Evidently you are not a well informed as you think your are.

False Claim: The City gets federal monies under the guise of "revitalization" when in fact the City is using the federal money to unlawfully take private property and demolish private homes. All while violated federally secured rights, property rights already declared as protected by the federal constitution in federal courts.

The FRAUD is that the money is NOT being used to "revitalize" but that it is being used to unlawfully take private property.

As to your statements that it has not been proven that the City has violated any federal rights and used federal money in doing so, well,duh..that is the point of the lawsuit, isn't it?

Your dog must be drunk a considerable about of time drinking all tht wine. I do know the law.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric If you talked to you people you would know as I do the living conditions in public housing aren't that great.You are still alot of hot air bubs.

Keep up you shit talk and get your lip busted!


12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nancy, Qui Tam is simply if you assist in the creation of a Federal suit that the Fed's recover payment in you too may recover money... big deal, fancy term, so what?

If the City was using Federal Dollars outside of the scope of what the Federal funds were to be used for and you became aware of that and you stimulated the Fed's to sue, that is when you could take a Qui Tam action. It is for your assistance in the case. But, you have to get the Fed's to sue and there has to have been some misuse of Federal funds.

You my dear are the perfect example of the phrase, "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing."

How anyone would think that the City buying property on the open market or worse still the City declaring a building a health hazard was a violation of any Federal funding, is beyond comprehension.


Chuck Repke

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn Chuck!
I wanted her to define it. I knew from how she was using it that she had no clue of what she was talking about.

This is the legal mindset of what the Ricomen find credible.

Yes Qui Tam is just another word for reward. I would like to know the attorney that Nancy consulted with that apparently confirmed her misinformation. He needs to be reviewed by the bar for screwing up basic legal terms.

If there is an attorney.


3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now Ms Bradley,
What is it about some of you guys that get so mad at me that you have to resort to race or physical threats? I didn't introduce your parents to each other and encourage them to reproduce an idiot. I didn't encourage you to drop out of high school cause you were smarter than your teachers. I just correct some of your dumb ass statements.

Its really about being shown to be pretty insignificant by a black guy. You just can't take that so you get personal.

Bradley, the internet is full of tough guys who are pussies in person. Most come on here and don't even use their name "Bradley". I'll tell you like I have all of them- Whenever you fucking feel tough enough, come get yourself some. You know where I hang out. I would really, really like that.

We both know you won't do that, so go back to biting that pillow of yours tough guy and STFU.

Eric- going to happy hour at 5:30 today<-------

3:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think your wrong Chuck. Nancy does not have to get the Feds to sue.....she has to start an action and if the Feds do not sue in 60 days, then Nancy becomes an "Attorney General" for the purposes of prosecuting the action. Maybe she'll convene a "Grand Jury" and look into the special treatment you get from the city.

5:52 PM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

You are correct.
Private Attorney General status.

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a new Sheriff in toen Repke and she's going to kick some ass! Is yours going to be one of them?

To Nancy:

The answer to your question is yes, the city does use Federal money to tear down some of these houses. Go get em girl.

10:29 PM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

I have met with Citizens and attorneys that hhve done sucessful Qui Tam federal actions.
What is needed is PROOF that the City of St. Paul used federal monies to tear down these houses (or to abuse property owners)

On Saturday I am giving a DAY long seminar at Bethleham Baptist Church in Moundsview on the FOUNDATIONS of Law, and WHAT we the People need to do.

EVERYONE is invited. Both legislators and candidates are confirmed that they are attending.

The week following the seminar I will meet with those that I have been discussing the federal action against St. Paul...updates later

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I have met with Citizens and attorneys that hhve done sucessful Qui Tam federal actions."

BS Nancy. There is a small group of attorneys and you are not in their vocabulary.

You are the snake-oil slaesman for the ignorant of the 21st century.

Who is paying for this propaganda of stupidity? Surely not the city, probably some non-profit like the ones your friends rail against.

I'll find out.


12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems like every time we hear from Nancy, she's off on a new cause. Are you ever going to finsdih sny of them Nancy or are they all going to just hang around in the background forever aan a day?

6:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Qui-Tam is the Whistleblower Statute's
Thanks Nancy Lazaryan for your research with triple damages awards

8:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sexiest Posters to impugne Nancy Lazaryan is Bizzare

QUI TAM - Latin abbreviation for "Who sues on behalf of the King as well as for himself." An action under a statute that establishes penalties for certain acts or omissions that can be brought by an informer or and in which a portion of the penalties, fines, awards can be awarded the whistleblower.

Who as well. When a statute imposes a penalty, for the doing or not doing an act, and gives that penalty in part to whosoever will sue for the same, and the other part to the commonwealth, or some charitable, literary, or other institution, and makes it recoverable by action, such actions are called qui tam actions, the plaintiff describing himself as suing as well for the commonwealth, for example, as for himself.

Qui tam provisions of the False Claims Act: As expressed by a court discussing the original version of the Act, qui tam actions are based on the theory "that one of the least expensive and most effective means of preventing frauds on the Treasury is to make the perpetrators of them liable to actions by private persons acting, if you please, under the strong stimulus of personal ill will or the hope of gain." United States v. Griswold, 24 F. 361, 366 (D. Or. 1885) (quoted, inter alia, in Quinn, 14 F.3d at 649 (emphasis added)). It can be argued that monies paid in settlement to a relator outside of the framework of an action brought under the Act should have an equivalent deterrent effect to monies paid in settlement

8:45 AM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

You are SOOOO funny!
Do you actually think that my contacts are limited only to people (and attorneys)in this state?

My "cause" is to get the PEOPLE educated in WHO they are so that WE can get this government that we created UNDER CONTROL.

The seminar on Saturday was exactly that, with elected officials and people working with federal resources (Congress) both attending and speaking.

For those that want to KNOW what is REALLY happening, we will be posting the entire seminar on the web at different websites (hooked into over 100,000 people that we are currently working with)in about a week.

NO MORE GRIPING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS. It is time to learn what we need to know and get moving.

The constitutions are compacts (a type of contract) the WE the SOVEREIGN People created.

WE put certain restaints on the government that WE created.

It is OUR responsibility, and our responsibilty ALONE to FIX THIS MESS.

The government will not fix itself, WE must restrain the government that WE created.

Damn, you weren't at the seminar, I guess you'll have to wait for the video to be posted on the web.

12:27 AM  

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