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Democratic state legislators and former St. Paul mayoral candidates Andy Dawkins and Sandy Pappas were her most outspoken and visible defenders. Pappas, for whom Soliah had raised campaign funds, attacked the FBI for tracking her down and wondered aloud, "Don't they have any real crimes to fight?" It is difficult to imagine what crimes Ms. Pappas considers more "real" than murder, bank robbery, and attempted murder. Welfare reform, perhaps.
Dawkins' comments on the case were equally bizarre. He has invoked events from Selma, Alabama to Kent State in defense of Ms. Soliah, as though they could somehow explain why it was reasonable to rob banks, assault bank customers, kill Myrna Opsahl, and attempt to murder war veterans and policemen. Dawkins says that the allegations against Soliah, if true, represent "a momentary lapse in judgment."
It is perhaps not surprising that Soliah would receive support from Democratic officeholders of the flakier sort.
Saint Paul still is a vacation land for wanted gangsters. Kathleen Soliah paid off the local Dapper Dans in the form of campaign contributions and volunteer work and received her get out of jail free card. That was of coarse until Elliot Ness and the Untouchables found her.
They do take a stand Bob. The stand they take is for evil, corruption, not telling the truth, distortion, manipulation, elitism, favoritism, and every other damn thing that decent people hate.
The gangsters don't bother to hide any longer Bob, they run for election and move into City Hall.
When most of the rest of the council is sent packing and Lantry doesn't have her "gang" any longer, she won't be the president of the council and she'll finally be shown for the fool that she is.
LOCAL POLITICOS EMPLOY SLIDING MORAL SCALES FOR
OLSON/SOLIAH
Joe Soucheray, Staff Columnist
When a fellow wrote the other day that Sara Jane Olson had possibly transformed herself
from a 1970s revolutionary into a modern-day DFL Party activist it was merely speculation
based on the initial comments of her friends. Olson, thought to be Kathleen Soliah, was
described as a pacifist, gun-control advocate and a shining light of volunteerism.
It turns out that not only was Olson a party activist, she was particularly close to Andy
Dawkins and worked for Dawkins on his 1993 mayoral campaign. Why, they go back 20
years or so. Dawkins was Olson's lawyer.
Unfortunately, there is very little chance that we could be rid of Dawkins through
extradition to California. I checked. You don't get many chances with a guy like Dawkins,
who is locked into a career of automatic re-elections from House District 65-A. Maybe
there was a little aiding and abetting going on there?
Probably not.
Pioneer Press: Document View Page 1 of 2
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=0EB5E3E201A19... 6/22/2007
Even if Dawkins knew that his client was a wanted fugitive, he would enjoy an attorneyclient
privilege. I guess it would be like a priest and a confessor. Of course, Olson/Soliah
is not guilty of anything, yet, and there certainly is no evidence to suggest that Dawkins
knew her to be an alleged pipe bomb-planting member of the Symbionese Liberation
Army.
I talked to a lawyer Friday who told me that in the event that Olson/Soliah confided to her
attorney that she intended to blow something up, the attorney would have an obvious
ethical responsibility to alert the authorities. And if Olson/Soliah's attorney knew that his
client was going to take the stand and lie about something, he would be ethically
compelled to resign her case.
It is more likely that Dawkins merely represented the woman he knew as Sara Jane Olson
in, say, a real estate transaction. But still, you never know. Her neighbors on Hillcrest
Avenue in Highland Park didn't know their neighbor was wanted by the FBI. Dawkins
didn't return calls Friday.
While Dawkins was running for mayor, he and Olson apparently performed
improvisational skits in the skyway system in St. Paul dramatizing what it would be like if
Dawkins were mayor. For a fugitive, downtown St. Paul is a reasonably safe place to
hide, especially if they were play-acting on a weekend. No, I have no idea how you would
dramatize a Dawkins term as mayor. Maybe Andy played Robin Hood and Olson played
Maid Marian.
Or maybe they sang Grateful Dead lyrics. What a long strange trip it's been.
Sandy Pappas, another DFL mayoral candidate, also is close to Olson. Olson worked on
the Pappas campaign and held a fund-raiser for Pappas at the Olson home on Hillcrest
Avenue.
Pappas was quoted in the Enemy Paper the other day as follows:
``Don't they have any real crimes to fight? Those were such turbulent times all those
years ago, and some people were pulled over the line. We were all going to protests and
demonstrations, the vast majority of which were nonviolent things. But some people got
pulled into the other world and made mistakes.''
Pappas didn't return calls Friday, either. By ``they,'' I assume Pappas meant the FBI. And
by protests, I guess Pappas meant kidnapping, bank robbery and attempted murder. The
SLA was a violent terrorist organization. They didn't seem to have much of an ideology -
they were all over the map when it came to what they were angry about - but they were in
a different league than your average dope-smoking anti-war protester.
Soliah is alleged to have joined the group after its kidnapping of Patty Hearst. Her
indictment is on felony charges, including conspiracy to commit murder of police officers
in Los Angeles by allegedly planting pipe bombs under patrol cars.
Conspiracy to commit murder of police officers.
But, hey, what the hell, those were turbulent times and if you grow up to stuff envelopes,
ring doorbells and throw fund-raisers for DFLers, you can be forgiven almost anything.
Columnist Joe Soucheray can be reached at jsoucheray@pioneerpress.com or (651)
228-5474. He can be heard each weekday 2-5 p.m. on AM 1500 KSTP.
Copyright (c) 1999 St. Paul Pioneer Press
"Sometimes friends would go to the couple's house, move the furniture into the street, turn
on the stereo and dance."
I seem to recall some of this type of behavior.....but I can't seem to remember where from.
Would this be some of the nusiance activity that Dawkins would want to run to the City Counil with so they could close up buildings?
Pappas was quoted in the Enemy Paper the other day as follows:
``Don't they have any real crimes to fight?
You mean like landlords with torn screens or broken windows?
Ask the Winn family if they think the Democrats go out of their way to protect their own.
You can find a link to Barbara Winn's story to the right of the screen under the Domestic violence image on the front page.
Ask the RICO plaintiffs if they think the Democrats in this City have gone out of their way to obstruct justice and protect their own.
Read the book by Leslie Davis "Always Cheat" and you will see more on how some Democrats in local politics have abused the system.
I am not a Democrat basher. There are many fine Democrats. I just think we need some changes in the one party system here in Saint Paul so we have some checks and balances.
Ask some of the elderly people who were put out of their homes with illegal behavior and trickery if they think we need some changes.
Ask anyone who ever dealt with the city and they will tell you that the city routinely lies, distorts, manipulates, breaks the law, ignores the law, favors their "connected buddies," and just in general says the hell with everyone that doesn't agree with us. Thee are a lot of contractors who refuse to even take jobs in St Paul because the inspectors are such assholes. When a "for profit" business doesn't even want your money, you know things are bad.
Chuck didn't you say a few months back Dawkins was a friend of yours?
Is Kathy your friend too?
If your IQ is down around the level of a cat, then Kathy Lantry is a friend.
Do you read anything here 11:57? This story has nothing to do with Kathy Lantry.
Hi All,
I find this very interesting, here is why.
I am one of those people who believe that most folks mature with age and go on to do good things to help others.
I believe in 2nd or 3rd chances, whatever it takes to become a productive citizen.
I also believe Andy Dawkins may have been supporting a friend in a time of need. A friend who some would feel had an unforgivable past.
Andy, felt she deserved a second chance and yet he helped create policies with in city government which made it hostile for a private landlord to offer a ex-felon a second chance.
Seems like a double standard. I guess it's who you know in this city.
And along with that the city took away the the hopes and dreams of a lot of poor people who deserved a 2nd chance.
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