St. Paul bans candy in form of tobacco
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Teens led the way to write an ordinance prohibiting the sale of the imitation tobacco items and toy-like lighters. It takes effect in about a month.
By CHRIS HAVENS, Star Tribune
Last update: April 9, 2009 - 12:06 AM
Candy smokes and cartoon character lighters will no longer be allowed to be sold in St. Paul.
The City Council voted unanimously Wednesday to approve an ordinance that bans the sale of "imitation tobacco products" and "novelty lighters." The ordinance will take effect in about a month.
St. Paul might be the only U.S. city to ban both the fake tobacco products and lighters.
Several countries prohibit the sale of candy cigarettes, including Australia, Canada and Thailand. In the United States, some national retailers, such as CVS and Wal-Mart, have agreed not to sell them. Maine and Tennessee and several local jurisdictions in other states have banned the sale of novelty lighters.
The ordinance was championed by a group of St. Paul teenagers working with the Association for Nonsmokers-Minnesota, which educates youth groups and individuals who want to lobby for anti-tobacco policies.
The teens expressed concern that candy cigarettes and toy-like lighters would glamorize tobacco use and lead children to smoke later in life. Some studies have confirmed their concerns.
Nobody spoke in opposition to the ordinance during a public hearing last week.
Council Member Melvin Carter III sponsored the ordinance but made the teenagers do all the research and sell it to his colleagues on the council.
"This happened as a result of the work of these young people," he said.
Shanicee Dillon, a junior at Johnson High School, was part of a core group involved in the drafting of the ordinance.
"It's nice to know you can have an impact on a community," she said.
Dillon added that it might be time to try to push similar ordinances in other cities.
Jeremiah Carter, a Central High School sophomore was upbeat about the outcome.
"I couldn't stop thinking, 'Yes, we did it.'" Carter is not related to the council member who shares his last name.
Mayor Chris Coleman said he will sign the ordinance.
Also Wednesday, the council approved a budget amendment for the Department of Safety and Inspections that calls for laying off seven employees and reducing the hours worked by 36 trades inspectors from 40 to 32 per week.
The trades union members came up with the reduction in hours as a way to save another seven jobs.
The measures are part of a restructuring plan to cut costs in the department as the city tries to deal with an estimated $13.4 million budget gap this year. Safety and Inspections has seen dramatic decreases in revenue from building permits and business licenses.
Chris Havens • 612-673-4148
Who would of thought this dumb ordinance would of had a chance?
Is there a legal product these capitalist hating Nanny's won't attack?
I am sure the tobacco haters have some obscure study claiming candy cigarettes lead to smoking the real thing. A study kinda like the city of Saint Paul puts together whenever they want their way on an issue. BIAS and PHONY!
I hear government is looking at taxing soda pop because they claim it makes folks fat due to the sugar content. How stupid can they get? Why not just ban sugar and all sweeteners? Hell, ban the fat on meat. No more cheese cake either!
I grew up with candy cigarettes. I do not smoke tobacco! I watched the 3 stooges beat the hell out of each other at work. I do not beat the hell out of anyone I work with. This notion monkey see monkey do is a bunch of hog wash.
If this story makes you sick and you perceive it as I do, another attack on a legal product and business, print a pic of Carter off the web and throw up on it.
Soooo.... you watched the Three Stooges...
That Explains Everything...
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
He still watches them: Chuck, Eric, and Bostrom
Chuck, did your dad
teach you anything?
OOOOOOOoohhh A Wise Guy!
Nnnnyyaahh
Hah hah
FYI - the only present my father ever bought me (Mom handled the gift giving it the traditional 1950's-60's home) was a carton of cigarettes for my 15th birthday, so I would quit stealing his.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
"Heeeyyyy! Spread out!"
Bob,
This is not some lefty liberal socialist nanny state legislation. Its Democracy.
Besides, there's nothing "lefty" about the evil empire: Wal Mart, which has agreed not to sale candy cigarettes.
Maine is a Republican/Libertarian state.
Tennessee is not only a very, very red state, its also a tobacco state! You can't call them tobacco haters.
You can't sell this junk anywhere in those two states.
North Dakota banned the sell of candy cigarettes in the 50's and 60's.
Saint Paul doesn't sponsor studies.
Here's some research to read in between shaking your fist at clous and yelling.
Live Science
Preventive Medicine
Executives from both the tobacco and candy industries considered candy cigarettes to be good advertising to future smokers.
Official Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics
Go back to shaking your fist Bob, that cloud is covering the sun and mocking you.
Eric
I am with Bob on this one.
What a joke.
What the council could have done is approve an ordinance saying that retailers could card anyone who wanted to buy the candy smokes.
What we have are city council members who see an opprotunity to get votes by pandering to the whims of some teenagers who's parents won't even let them go out on Friday night.
If the very thought of ciggs offend these teenagers, then why don't they go to the legislature to ban smokes altogether ?
Why doesn't the city ban ciggs in the city ?
The sin taxes bring in the dough.
What hypocrites are the city council members.
Government sends mixed messages to our youth for just about every taboo that exists.
Example, our Minnesota Statutes say that 16 year olds are minors that can't have sex.
But 16 years old and a day later don't need consent to do so.
What a difference a day makes, and a parent cannot even tell their 16 year old and a day later, that they cannot not have sex.
Please city council members, approve an ordinance that says teens can't have sex without consent until they have reached 18 years and a day later.
These kids can have sex without parental consent and parents are left with the responcibility of a teenage pregnancy.
And, tax payors are on the hook also.
I say ban ciggs altogether.
Jeff Matiatos
I can believe that cigg co. have worked with candy co. to assist in cigg sales.
However, my belief is that kids who would buy them ( candy ciggs )
are not influenced by them to start smoking.
The studys and articles in Erics posting only proves that cigg co. attempted to influence children with the hopes that they would become future smokers.
There are no stats that directly link the cigg co. efforts to why we have teen smokers.
If anything, these kids that brought it to the city council have proved that teens CAN know the difference without banning the candy ciggs.
Parents if anything, that smoke in front of their children, are mostly to blame, plus, our schools are partly responcible.
Again, governments appetite for the cigg revenue and failure to ban a product that is dangerous to humans and pregnant mothers, sends children a mixed message.
Did the city council explain to these kids why it bans smoking in public places ( indoors ) but lets retailers still sell them ?
Thats right Eric and Chuck, you have nothing to say now because you know I am right.
I guess it took some kids to tell the city council what they think is bad for them.
Wouldn't look good for political incumbents who turned these kids away at election time !
Jeff Matiatos
I take my comment back about having an ordinance requiring retailers to cards kids to keep them from buying candy ciggs.
It shouldnt have to be that way.
Should we ban squirt guns to keep kids from turning into bank robbers and killers ?
I told you all before that I wanted to vote for Obama.
Fact is, I didn't because I learned what this man was really all about just before election time and I could see him taking over everything.
So far he has, and he has spent our childrens future and put them into debt.
Did I hear that he wants to send dust into the atmosphere to control
global warming ?
He is one radical thats for sure.
He is a nut job. Just like most republican politicians.
Jeff Matiatos
Show us evidence of a survey of teenagers that said buying and consuming lead then to start smoking ?
These teenagers who went to city hall, I bet not one of them were influenced by candy ciggs.
Jeff Matiatos
This means big league chew and jerky chew also right?More governmentcontrol over our lives.Just think folks in 20 years parents won't have to be parents in St.Paul.Eric your statements may be true but you forgot one thing that was private business regulating itself.What a bunch of Nanny Staters!
Fred
Maine, Tennessee and North Dakota are not private businesses. Neither is Saint Paul or the other cities and towns that ban it.
Don't blame Carter alone, the city attorney,council signed off, then the Mayor had to ratify the "ORDINANCE" http://stpaul.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=37&clip_id=1269&meta_id=60685
Is it True?
That Dave Thune still smokes in his office at city hall.
"Is it True"?
Dave doesn't smoke the candy cigs either!
Did anyone ever heard of Blind Faith?
Why am I asking you nice people in St.Paul that.
You must be really blind to put your faith in these elected people that the Democrats control.
St Paul is a democratic city. Democrats control it. Big deal. If you want them out, you'll have to import a lot more republican voters that those in Highland and Battle Creek. a lot more.
Repke is their a clinic for SSC
That is Stop Smoking Candy.
The city changes URL Agenda item 33, 8Apr09
http://stpaul.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=37&clip_id=1269&meta_id=60685
Will Eric and Chuck become a turn coat like Norm Coleman & Randy Kelly.
They were Democrats turned Republican.
What will Thune do.
Anonymous said... 7:45 PM
Repke is their a clinic for SSC
That is Stop Smoking Candy.
Chuck
Let's start a non profit clinic for kids addicted to candy cigs, and we can get city and Federal money.
Now, that's the Democratic way.
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