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22 Comments:
No trusting any election anymore.
We see that anything or anybody can be bought.
Mark Ritchie is a democrat that is deciding on who will be our next U S Senator.
I wonder if Franken still feels this way.
Franken speaking of us on the right. Quote, "I hate those mother fuckers".
I'd like to say the feeling is mutual Al, except I don't hate anyone! Awful strong words for a elected official who may have to reach across party lines for cooperation.
I listen to the show tonight. It was very interesting. Martin is very professional with a go ole Joe slant. Al was minding his manners.
U S Senate.
Did anyone see Al Franken in the movie with Eddy Murphy called
Changing Places, he played a nit-wit.
Dean Barkley would have did the job better, and Ole Savior would be the best Governor from the Democrats Party.
Al Franken won the election. Start getting use to that.
Dumb-ass, late to game, anonymous 7:26:
Ritchie has yet to make a decision and it wouldn't matter. The law dictated a recount. After the recount NORM COLMAN, filed a suit, Ritchie could have, but refused to certify the recount results (which could have had AL in Washington while the suit slowly carried on). On the question of ballots, every step of the way its been a panel of judges from across the spectrum making the call, starting with the Chief Judge Eric Magnuson appointed by his best friend Tim Pawlenty.
The people decided who our next senator would be. Judges are keeping it within the law. NORM COLEMAN and the republican senate are the ones doing everything they can to keep another Democrat from coming into the Senate, no matter what the will of the people is. Who cares about the will of the people when you can run to the courts, right NORM?
Our election process is one of the best in America.
Eric
Tell that to Rush and Hanity Eric, they will have lunch and eat your to !
Squid
No they won't. Rush doesn't allow guests that could debate him. Only those who agree and callers who may disagree but, like you, are pretty inarticulate.
Hannity is a worth less debate because when he's against the fence, he just lies and let the people figure it out lately.
Squid, why don't you tell us their position and I'll show you where they are 'flawed' or factually challenged. With half my brain tied behind my back my friends.
Eric
Oh yeah, I would never try to eat lunch or anything around Rush. He doesn't seem like the type to pass up a meal, or loose a fight trying to get to one.
I have no doubt he'd go after my lunch like a bowl of free Oxycotin.
Eric
Franken speaking of us on the right. Quote, "I hate those mother fuckers".
Bob,
Al never said that but, I'm glad to see you coming out of the closet and bringing your ADemocracy crowd with you.
It was written in his 2003 book. In the section about 9/11 he was talking about the Republicans blaming Clinton for 9/11 and now Iraq. On page 115 of Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, here's the entire context in three paragraphs:
Right-wingers like to call us the "Blame-America First Crowd." But, they've blamed Clinton, who's not just an American, but was the President, virtually nonstop. And Clinton was not just the President. He was the last elected president, who received more votes than any other candidate running against him. In two straight elections! So who's blaming America? The left, which is blaming the terrorists? Or, the right, which is blaming a twice elected President of the United States?
But, you know what, I don't want to get into a whole partisan politics thing here. Not in this book, anyway. We'll leave that for my next book, I Fucking Hate Those Right Wing Motherfuckers!, due out in October 2004. I'm hoping it will 'fire up the troops' for the final weeks of the campaign season.
No, this book, the one you are reading now, is about giving both sides a fair shake and getting to the bottom of the big issues that face us all as American transitions into the twenty-first century. Who was to blame for 9/11, other than the terrorists? Its an important question, one that serious minded people want answered. Its also one that less serious people like Sean Hannity are curious about. And I think its time to go to the record with an open mind and, more important, an open heart.
There it is in as much context as I could type without having a copyright infringement suit from Penguin Publishing.
Eric
Eric calling us liars.
Here is a liar calling the kettle black, whom is lining your pockets.
You have been kissing up the legs of those Democrats for years, when they piss are you there telling them thank for my share.
We seen how faithful some of you can be while others are having their homes and life saving go down the drains because of the code compliance, then after sinking their last dollar into it they condemn it and the people like Nancy Osterman lose their investment.
DEMOCRats crawling out of the st.paul's sewers and tear her home down, the real reason in this is they don't like people like Nancy O. or Nancy L. making a fu of them.
Those two have more brains then Eric or Chuck and the rest of your party in just one fake finger nail.
Your party seems to be all fakes.
Your just the good old boys.
ACORN was behind part of the fraud in the 2008 elections, did Obama win fair and square.
If the Republicans would have voted agianst the photo ID bill we would have thought they were the crooked party, but the Democrats didn't want to lose a good thing.
With ACORN getting government money to drive voters and help bribe them to vote DFL.
Glad to see I can inject some life into this blog. One at a time boys.
5:57am
Nancy Lazaryan is full of shit. Many of your own people on this site have posted about it. I just happen to be a Democrat so you pull me out sorry, but even Swiftee has pointed out that she seems to enjoy making things harder for herself. She'll be doing time for assault soon enough.
I never had a problem with Nancy O. I knew nothing of the house or any of the shit flying back and forth and gave her the benefit of doubt. Still do. Feel free to go back through archives and show us where I have written something different. You won't because you can't. That would make you a liar.
As far as the party goes. Who is this 'party boss' that you speak of? I've been on the DFL Executive Committee for Saint Paul since I've lived here. We endorse candidates, we approve changes to the constitution, and set dates for the conventions. Its a group effort. Its also wide open for almost one who wants to be involved to get involved. Anyway, there is no leg to be kissed.
I don't line my pockets from politics here. I've worked for money on one St Paul campaign for about three months and realized that I should stick to state and federal campaigns. Local politics is not my forte'.
While there may be a Democrat who have wronged you, since this town is almost all DFL, then its a Democrat who has/will make right of the situations. It must be nice for you to give us your comment from the cheap seats.
6:30am
The only arrest and convictions for voter fraud in 2008 were Republican operatives, one with a connection to John McCain. You want their names? Or are you just throwing any shit out that comes out of your rotten stinking pie hole?
What government money is Acorn getting? Another filthy lie from the supporters of a failed party with a failed philosophy. Thanks for playing.
Eric
Like the New President said, we need a change.
From Bad to Worst.
This is turning out to be a poor country, we once were the greatest country on earth, then the Free Trade bill was past by?
Which Free trade bill?
North American?
Central America/Dominican?
Asian-Pacific Econ. Coop?
Chile-American?
Singapore-American?
Jordan?
Israel?
Australia?
Bahrain?
If you get to the agreement, make sure to mention your disagreements.
Eric
Eric said;
Al never said that but, I'm glad to see you coming out of the closet and bringing your
(correction---->A Democracy<---- crowd with you.
It was written in his 2003 book. In the section about 9/11 he was talking about the Republicans blaming Clinton for 9/11 and now Iraq. On page 115 of Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, here's the entire context in three paragraphs:
my response;
I'm sorry to have to correct you Eric. I heard this from the horse's mouth. AL said, "I hate those mother fuckers".
It was "video" of Al letting it rip.
Al will turn out to be a bigger embarrassment to the DFLers than Dayton and Carter were.
Now we all know Eric is out here putting his name right with foul-mouthed Al. But when Al gets in trouble, Eric will be the first to throw him under the bus and claim he always wanted someone else.
That is how slimy politicos like Eric work.
I did work and support someone else. What you won't hear me say is that Norm Coleman would have been better than Al. You have confused me with someone else, there is nothing slimy about my politics. I'm on this blog, with my name, arguing with people hiding because their afraid of the CIA or whatever. My politics may be disagreeable to the likes of yourself but, you'll be hard pressed to pull out an example of me being slimy. Which explains why you made something up that may or may not happen in the future you create. (Coo-Coo).
Bob,
You are so weak with this argument I was going to let you slide but, no. I went to trouble to find the book, and page where its written, You make up some story about Youtube videos that don't exist. Why didn't you link to it? You never heard it. You just bought into the party line that Al was ranting and said that.
Now that you've come out of the closet, you're already adapting Hannity like debating tactics. When in doubt, lie.
Eric
We are going to "Hanitize" you Eric.
Eric said;
Bob, You are so weak with this argument I was going to let you slide but, no. I went to trouble to find the book, and page where its written, You make up some story about YouTube videos that don't exist. Why didn't you link to it? You never heard it. You just bought into the party line that Al was ranting and said that.
My response;
Eric, I seen the video with my own eyes. It was a campaign ad just before the election aired on local t.v... I never said anything about YouTube..Jeeesh!
First Bob, all of their stuff is posted on You Tube. That's where I found the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJUxtfSdaX0&feature=related
Second if you look at the video at the 21 second mark, you hear the quote. Below it, you see it contributed to the book. Exactly what I wrote.
As I said, it was taken out of context from a page in his book. As i wrote, it was a joke title for a fictitious book.
What you heard was the book on tape/cd, where you listen to the author read their book. The Republicans took that out of context and tried to pass it off as Al's thoughts. They pulled it down after being called on it but, because some people are dense, they got their point across because here you are, several months later swearing that its true.
So, you got anything to say?
Eric
Thank you Eric. I am so busy and I didn't take the time to check out your links.
I have listen to AL Franken's radio show. I felt it was offensive. As you would feel about an hour of Hannity.
Don't tell me what I think Bob.
I listen to Hannity and thinks he's wrong. Plain ol' wrong with his his so-called facts and how he frames a question.
He's offensive when he attacks poor people and the working class- as does most of the talk show hosts on the Right.
Somehow, idiots who work for living, continue to nod their heads and listen to them.
Tell you what, put a weekly title "What Hannity Got Wrong This Week" and I'll post at least once a week citing my work and giving facts.
Eric
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