Man And Boy Stabbed With Sickle
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Man and a boy stabbed with sickle
ELIZABETH MOHR
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 10/06/2007 03:46:17 PM CDT
A man and a boy are in stable condition after being stabbed with a sickle during a large fight last night in St. Paul.
Several callers reported about 10:15 p.m. Friday that there was a fight in the 1200 block of Bush Avenue involving up to 50 people, some with baseball bats, police said.
When police arrived at the scene, they found a 15-year-old St. Paul boy who was stabbed in the chest and a 21-year-old St. Paul man who was stabbed in the lower back.
It appeared as if both males were stabbed with a sickle, said Tom Walsh, St. Paul Police spokesman.
"Which would indicate it's the same attacker," Walsh said. "(But) these people aren't talking to us."
No arrests have been made and police have no suspect information.
Both stabbing victims were taken by ambulance to Regions Hospital.
The boy was admitted in critical condition, but police say both are now in stable condition.
While at the hospital questioning witnesses, police learned of a third injury. A female told officers that a 16-year-old boy was hit in the head with a push lawn mower and a brick, but she drove him home after the fight. It is unclear why he wasn't at the hospital. He won't speak to police, Walsh said.
The gang unit was called in to investigate the incident, but Walsh was hesitant to say it was gang related.
This artcicle reflects the feelings that individuals have taking towards the SPPD, the community policing policy has gone and so has the trust for the SPPD. People would rather take issues upon themselves then involve the police. There has to be a reason behind it with trust coming to mind first and second they may feel like the police won't do anything anyway. The first approach the officers use is a very critical aspect for the success of the ongoing investigation, if you can't even get the victims to talk somethings obviously wrong with the way the situation was handled.
The Police in this town are out to jam you up for anything and everything and the proof is in the fact that when you call them, rather than help you, they snitch to Andy Dawkins to have code inspectors come to your house. I wouldn't talk to a cop for anything in this town.
St.Paul and its sister city of crime Chicago, mafia police and mayor.
Don't walk the streets.
Officer Vick is dead, but the others police officers are sill driving drunk.
4:13...
It is no hidden fact that law enforcement has seen many issues themselves behind the closed doors that include some sort of abuse, whether it be domestic, alcohol abuse, drug or some other abuse, the "blame" which is also the key word used here goes to the excuse of "stress of the job." Is that due to the overtime forced upon officers and officer burnout?
It is very clear the drug war is not being won by the city with their current tactics... How high does the crime rate, drug addiction, displaced and/or broken families have to get before the judicial system looks at getting to the core of the problem and treating the illness.
Reduce the demand for illegal drug and the suppliers will also be reduced due to lack of demand, the results would take time and money but the future would have a much better out look for the children and their future if we focused more on a long term solution rather then locking up drug addicted offenders where statistics show they often learn more criminal behaviors.
Its time the judicial system takes a closer at treating the illness and offering non-violent addicted offenders the medical treatment & support they may need to succeed to a life outside of drugs n thugs.
I know its a long road for addicts but it can be done given then proper tools just like for any job to be completed successfully & properly you must have the right tools.
Just like myself if it were not for the support and programs I recieved from the Ramsey Co. Substance Abuse Court I would either be; several feet underground (my mothers thoughts), in prison, chasing that never ending next high, or running from the law rather then studying it. I consider myself VERY fortunate to be where I am today which includes raising my children myself instead of the system (fostercare) raising them.
I am assuming that the investigations of this incident will reveal a drug related issue as this seems to be the leading cause or blame for the violence across the country.
Nancy O.
"Hit in the head with a push mower" "stabbed with a sickle," remind me not to call these guys for lawn care service...
Chuck Repke
In my opinion, the police in Saint Paul have a tradition of being among the best in the country.
My family has a long history of service in the police force to Saint Paul, including a great Uncle who was Chief of Police, Neil McMahon. My Grandfather was a cycle cop and firefighter killed while on duty at the fire station on University.
That isn't to say I have a direct connection to the Police force of today, but I know some of them and they deal with things that are hard for the average person to imagine.
For instance, on a daily basis they are exposed to man's inhumanity to man, crack babies, homeless people, drug addicts, thieves, human trafficking, child molesters and even killers.
They make bad judgements sometimes, just like you and I, the big difference is that thier mistakes can cost lives. Try living with that as a career choice.
I'm not saying I support everything the police do in Saint Paul, but I have an appreciation for the job they do and understand how difficult it must be at times.
That said, I don't think the community has gotten together and quietly said "We ain't talkin to the Cops." No, this was a big brawl, got out of hand and no one wants to be labled a SNITCH.
Lastly, I do understand that the police force in Saint Paul has issues, but I'd rather have them working on those issues and patrolling our streets than turning our protection over to the gangs, thugs and real mafia.
Martin
I'd rather deal with the "real mafia" rather than this crooked city counicl. At least you'd know what to expect and act accordingly.
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