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St. Paul police investigate a city parking meter man after his hefty deposits raise a teller's suspicions
St. Paul police investigate a city parking meter man after his hefty deposits raise a teller's suspicions
BY EMILY GURNON
Pioneer Press
Article Launched: 10/10/2007 12:01:00 AM CDT
Bank tellers often see customers bring in bags of coins.
But $1,200 worth? Every week?
Police are investigating a St. Paul parking meter worker who tellers say brought in huge amounts of coins for about a year, deposited several hundred dollars each time into his personal account and took the rest in bills, according to search warrant affidavits filed Tuesday in Ramsey County District Court.
Vincent Carl Schettner, 63, drew the attention of a teller at the City and County Credit Union in St. Paul after she noticed him bring in dollar coins and quarters on a weekly basis totaling about $1,200, the affidavits said. He gave conflicting stories of how he'd obtained the coins, she told police.
After she spied him on the street emptying meters for his job, she tipped an off-duty police officer working at the bank.
Schettner has not been charged. A message left at his home was not returned late Tuesday.
Schettner has worked for the city since 1970 and makes $21 an hour emptying meters, said acting human resources director LeeAnn Turchin. She said he is under investigation by the city and that the issue of "suspension or possible discharge" will be discussed today.
Did the city not notice the revenue shortfall?
"Yes, we do track that; we do record it; we do report on it," said Bruce Beese, head of St. Paul's department of public works.
Beese said department managers get monthly reports on meter revenue as well as reports from American Security,the company used to count coin revenue.
However, he said, "this was kind of hidden from us in a way because we've had some increased meter raids (thefts) in the last year or so, and it just wasn't showing up on our radar."
Police interviewed four other tellers, who also were suspicious of Schettner, at City and County Credit Union locations in St. Paul and Lake Elmo. Their accounts, according to the affidavits:
-- Schettner had been coming to the bank three or four times a month for about a year, always carrying coins in a silver coffee can.
-- The coins totaled $1,000 to $1,200.
-- Most customers who come in with coins have about $20 - $300 to $400 if they've been saving them more than a year.
-- Schettner told one teller he worked with parking meters. A couple of tellers assumed the city paid Schettner in coins. He told another he collected coins.
-- When questioned by one teller, Schettner said he was going to take his wife somewhere for their anniversary and she didn't know he had the money, so it would be "quite the surprise."
A city supervisor in the traffic operations unit told police Schettner works alone and collects coins from downtown meters daily by emptying them into a collection device that connects to the meter. He then drives the coins to the traffic operations building on North Dale Street.
There is "ample opportunity to take coins between the time they are collected and the time they are brought to Dale Street," the affidavits said.
Police sought search warrants for bank records from the credit union, Associated Bank in St. Paul and Lake Elmo Bank in Oakdale.
Tad Vezner contributed to this report. Emily Gurnon can be reached at 651-228-5522 or egurnon@pioneerpress.com.
I am sure there is a very good reason for this elderly fellow depositing these coins in his own bank account, like being a city employee. Isn't stealing in the job description for most all city jobs?
Or...Maybe he needed the extra money to complete a home code compliance for the city so he felt the city owed it to him.
What does anyone expect, the rest of the city is dirty and the employees just follow the leaders. The city refuses to do any investigation reagrding what the landlords are alleging in their lawsuit, so who would think the city would waste their time investigating anything like this.
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Nancy
Nice way of putting the skimming idea out there.
$40,000 a year pay but still had the greed for more.
How much dose
Governor Tim Pawlenty get a year?
How much dose Mayor Chris Coleman Make?
How much dose Sandy Pappas make?
Hay Dave Thune how much do you really take home?
Oh what was this about, skimming?
I'm not saying that anyone that I mentioned is or was a skimmer.
Some of us just get by with nothing and grateful of it, while other have a descent job and find ways to skim, steal, funnel money some how.
Who is the biggest thief in St.Paul, and dose he or she work in government?
Put your reply of who you think it is. >> besides Jesse?
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Bill Dahn
Bill, tell everyone what you do again. You don't rely on the government for anything, do you? I'm sure you work for it.
Some old guy got caught stealing and the city's police department, human resources department and public works department are all trying to cover it up- wait, no they aren't. They all worked together to first stop it, then remove him from the job and then worked through an investigation so that there is due process. Yeah, huge corruption conspiracy.
Nancy, this guy has been with the city for 37 years and he only makes 40,000/yr. That's not exactly the kind of job to be looking for. Plenty of them start off paying 40,000/yr or more.
No one ever got rich working for the government (except Dick Cheney) or a non-profit (again Dick Cheney). You don't do it for the money.
Eric
Now thats what I call a job with benifits!
Shit take any homeless person and they would fill that job for $6 an hour and only take $10 a day to buy a bottle afterwork!
Really Eric?
What is the starting wage for a St.Paul police officer that risks his life daily to serve & protect the community? (Well at least thats what they are suppose to do.)
Those figures show why the city of St.Paul is in the financial situation it is in, mismanagement of taxpayers money.
It doesn't take a college degree to collect money from a meter or six workers to hold a shovel and stand around discussing which one is going to have to do the actual physical labor!
Thats ok they can just raise taxes more to cover the expenses.
Eric and everyone that posted a comment was right,
Cops or police officers are usually good people, but like Sergeant Art Gerrao St.Paul Police he kicked in my doors and put a gun to my head twice.
He said to me after I gave him a Always Cheat book.
He had to do what he was told.
Norm Coleman was his boss.
Police and everyone in life usually are good people.
evidently people just try to keep up to the Jones's, look at the city officials making big money for conspiring to take homes and put up condominiums in its place. "right chuck"?
Greed has taken over the world and its like a wild fire, hard to contain.
There are people in all walks of life that has no regards on who they cheat.
Almost all people go by the golden rules, don't kill, steal, and so on.
Others believe that they are god, and other are not as smart so con and cheat them out of their homes,wealth, and anything they own.
To all the police that have to go out and put their life on the line for their pay, pay them more and the mayor and the city council less.
Have a joy full day and be good to each other, I will also.
Bill Dahn
Here's a solution, lets have Bill and Sharon collect the meter money. Then they'll have something productive to do, you know they can "give soemthing back".
Bill said...
"look at the city officials making big money for conspiring to take homes and put up condominiums in its place. "right chuck"?"
Find me one Bill. People make up this shit and the spew it all over the place as if it had some kind of factual basis.
That kind of stuff just doesn't happen here. The deals are way to public for it to happen. Bill just because you don't have two nickles you can rub together a city council pay looks like a lot of money. Here's why I have never run... hold on to your hat Bill... the job doesn't pay enough!!! I went broke being an aide for eight years.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
This guy should of went to the casino with the money. :)
Alex
just kidding
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Nancy,
You know that hospitals are non-profits, don't you?
Eric
Guess who just got back today?
Them wild-eyed boys that had been away
Haven't changed, haven't much to say
But man, I still think them cats are crazy
They were asking if you were around
How you was, where you could be found
Told them you were living downtown
Driving all the old men crazy
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
I said
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
You know that chick that used to dance a lot
Every night she'd be on the floor shaking what she'd got
Man when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot
I mean she was steaming
And that time over at Johnny's place
Well this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face
Man we just fell about the place
If that chick don't want to know, forget her
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
I said
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
Spread the word around
Guess who's back in town
You spread the word around
Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Dino's bar and grill
The drink will flow and blood will spill
And if the boys want to fight, you'd better let them
That jukebox in the corner blasting out my favorite song
The nights are getting warmer, it won't be long
Won't be long till summer comes
Now that the boys are here again
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
Spread the word around
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boy's are back, the boys are back
The boy's are back in town again
Been hangin' down at Dino's
The boy's are back in town again
Don't you just love it?
Nancy Lazaryan
2:16 PM
You said it like it is, non-profit can and do put their friends in good jobs.
RAP is a non profit that get money thou the Federal U S Department of Energy.
Dale Anderson had 5 jobs with RAP in 1997 making $52,000 each per year = $260,000 a year for 5 part time jobs.
Ex St.Paul Mayor Jim Schiebel who also was a Democratic, lost his job at RAP last fall in 2006.
Look into all the money that flows thou St.Paul from the Energy Program out of Washington DC. thank you all for seeing past your own nose.
Bill Dahn
Bill said, "Cops or police officers are usually good people, but like Sergeant Art Gerrao St.Paul Police he kicked in my doors and put a gun to my head twice. He said to me after I gave him a Always Cheat book."
Bill, I was one of your supporters, but DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT trash Art. He is a personal friend of mine.
I went through the police academy with Art and I would give him my left arm. You are one sick puppy. Get a life or get your meds adjusted. Stop living off the government!
I have met you several times at different events around St. Paul. You are the guy with the really big eyeglasses and the brown hair. I am tired of your trash mouth on this blog. Clean up your mouth. Stop your talk about insulation and get some facts before you speak.
Cleaning up St. Paul one Dawg at a time.
A cops life;
Academy. Badge. Rookie. Patrol.
Honor. Valor. Bravery.
Drunks. Bar fights. Car chases. Foot chases.
Felons. Perverts. Cop haters. Cop killers.
Marijuana. Cocaine. Meth labs.
Battered wives. Abused children.
Murders. Suicides. Accidents. Fatalities.
Mental patients. Dirty needles. Dirty trailers.
Deep nights. Weekends. Overtime.
Marriage. Kids. Divorce. Marriage.
Promotions. Demotions. Politics.
Good cops. Bad cops. Funerals.
Gray hair. Wrinkles. Years.
Blood. Sweat. Tears.
Live it. Love it. Hate it.
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A Policeman;
MOST OF THE TIME, perhaps, he’s just a fellow in a uniform who waves you through a busy intersection… but then suddenly one day he is also the man whose fast, skilled hands bring your baby boy back from the shadow of death.
He’s the fellow who gave you a parking ticket that day you didn’t see the sign… but he’s also the one who pulled your parents out of their burning, smashed-up car.
He’s the fellow who spoke a bit gruffly the time you went through the stoplight… but he’s also the genial, friendly guardian the kids look forward to seeing at the school crossing every day.
He’s the embarrassed, nervous young bachelor who helped bring your first-born into the world during that nightmarish ride to the hospital.
He’s the good Samaritan who knows first-hand of the hardships in your town, the broken families – and who digs down into his own thin wallet for the price of a hot meal for the youngsters left without food.
He’s the head of a family, who walked into a darkened warehouse the other night and dutifully let the man back in the shadows fire the first shot.
It’s comforting to know, as we sit in our easy chairs on a wet, stormy evening, that over 600,000 Americans like him have been willing to pin on a badge and agree to make our troubles their careers.
No other profession request men to be skilled at so many different things.
He’s a SOLDIER. He is the first line of defense. The preserver of liberty, and the defender of justice.
He’s a PHYSICIAN, usually the first skilled person to reach those who are injured as a result of an accident or action of other persons.
He’s a MINISTER, often called on to comfort persons as life leaves their body, and the one most often called on to deliver the news of tragedy and tries to console persons that have lost loved ones.
He’s a TEACHER, daily teaching less informed officers and the general public on the laws of our land and how to apply them in a democratic community.
He’s a PEACEMAKER, regardless of what anyone thinks of a Policeman, when he is in trouble he wants a Policeman. He is called on to make peace between neighbors, friends, and even families.
He’s a FRIEND TO THE FRIENDLESS, sees humanity at its lowest ebb, befriends the friendless, and often feed the hungry.
He’s the NEMESIS TO EVIL, a protecting wall between a free people and those who would enslave us. If he does his job, crime will decrease and a free people can walk the streets of our State and Nation alone and unafraid.
He’s a POLICEMAN, whose only reward is the satisfaction of knowing he is his brother’s keeper, and that the world is a better place to live because he’s a Policeman.
10:59 PM and Chuck
First Chuch,
I don't have " 2 " neckles to my name, because of city government covering for RAP.
Next about Art >> 10:59 PM
You got me wrong on this one.
Art is a great person and one very nice policeman.
I respect him for doing his job at my house and for telling me years later that he had to do what he is told.
Ask Art if you can borrow his Aways Cheat Book that I gave him at the Coleman, Mondale debate in 2002 after Wellstone died.
Art had me go out to my car at a East Side food Shelf to get the book so he could show the other volinteers about how I stood up to all.
Ask him about it, I think he's a very good person also.
Bill Dahn
www.billdahn.com
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Nancy wrote:
"Welcome to America, where opportunities to lie, cheat and steal are available to all."
Who is charged with 'regulating' ordinances and codes that will keep all of that to a minimum?
The government.
Who bitches and complains and sometimes make up shit (like Bill Dahn just caught doing) about those charged with enforcing those rules?
Almost all of you who post here on this 'blog'.
Who put the people in place who are charged with creating, maintaining and ensuring fairness over these ordinances and codes?
You did.
Eric M.
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11:11
You must be new so I'll give you time to catch up on your reading.
Read my comments on here and you won't have to figure it out. I usually spell it out and the M.O. retort is baseless and personal. Same thing happens to Repke too.
Eric
Eric, your fibbing! I have seen you and Chuck taken to the woodshed on a number of issues.
We can't help it you can't see you have lost the debate.
Robert Humphrey is part of the deadwood. This deadwood, people just there collecting paychecks,is a major part of the inspections issue.
to 8:50 A.M.
You forgot about how the Police want to and do blame law abiding people for the actions of renters.
You forgot about how when you call them for help they are more interested in checking out your house and snitching the homeowner or landlord out to NHPI for a $50,000 repair bill.
You forgot about how when we call them about renters breaking the law and they say they cannot do anything and start bashing the lanldords.
You forgot about how they assign people to go with housing inspectors to force their way into apartments without warrants.
You forgot about how they lie and fabricate reports.
I wouldn't call the Police or cooperate with them for anything.
Far as I'm concerned they are as bad as the people they are chasing.
1:04pm Bill Dahn,
(I'm dumber for just reading this post.)
Answer this Dahn, did Art put a gun to your head or not? If not, why did you say he did? To make your point that the city told him to do it?
Is that what you mean when you say "So if you think that I made up anything, you must not really be black."
I don't believe you.
Bill, I know Board Members of RAP and program directors. I made calls on your behalf when you came to my office- and just like the calls I made on your behalf for legal help for you- they knew you and all had a similar story of your irrational and uncalled for accusations, cursing, name calling and refusal to show to appointments.
Its the same story every single person that has run into you and tried to help you. We only have to look back about three posts for your ridiculous activities toward the older couple on the West Side. You need help and someone to handle your business for you.
I used to know Clyde. i wonder if he is aware of your position.
Eric
The title of this says 'Another' city worker. What other city workers are you referring to Bob?
I'm sure you're not jumping the gun on a pending legal process are you?
Its time you One Note Johnnys start being specific. Who are the other city workers that were caught with their hands in the cookie jar?
Of course this is not a website dedicated to bitching and complaining and if you're not in their camp you're not welcome here.
Eric said- Of course this is not a website dedicated to bitching and complaining and if you're not in their camp you're not welcome here.
Me- Once again Eric is out right lying. You are here and people seldom agree with you Eric.Has Bob ever deleted any of your post? Come on tell the truth now Eric.
We have heard reports in the past of items coming up missing from the police property room Eric. Do we need to get into it?
I asked Bob to post the story. Some of us are not so anonymous to someone we trust like Bob.
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This is the last time for me. I can't take you any longer Bill. I'll go and you stay. Everyone here seems to be entertained by your insulation story. I'm not and have better things to do.
Hey Bill,
You said, "Then Dean paid the $600.00 for the switch-a-roo"
You could have said no to Jesse and Dean.
Did they have a gun to you head as well?
You filed as a Republican governor, but I never saw you at any Republican conventions.
Bill, and I am saying this for your own good, I personally know Bob has tried to tell you, but get some help! Members of this forum are pissed at you. Do you like to be called names or made fun of. I think the answer is no.
Go see a doctor and get the meds increased or something. I fear for your safety as some on this blog are really mad at you.
Bob, I know you have tried.
Bill, I have been over and over this with you.
I'm sorry you don't get it. Off topic is one thing, everyone here does it from time to time including myself.
I over look the off topic comments if a thread isn't interesting.I have seen some great exchanges come out of the blue.
However, Bill you know that stuff about insulation and RAP is driving us CRAZY! I deleted the comments and will delete further comments with anything to do with RAP or INSULATION
Quite frankly, I wish when that cop had the gun to Bills head he would have had a twich and pulled the trigger. Bill Dahn contributes NOTHING here. All he does is look for an excuse to turn every subject and everything anyone says into something about him. I am so sick of it I don't even want to come here and participate any longer. Between Dahn and this Nancy babe lecturing everyone about respoinsibility, it's gotten to be nothing short of pure hell trying to participate here.
The biggest joke of all is that Bill Dahn thought he was smart enough to deal with the likes of Jessie Ventura and Dean and still come out ahead. It seems Dahn like to capitalize in everything he thinks will benfiet him and then complqians for years when he gets his ass burned. If you worked half as hard at a job Bill as you do trying to get everyone to feel sorry for you there wouldn't be abything to complain about.
Thanks Bob! Keeping Bill's rants on RAP, insulation, Jesse, etc, etc, etc off the blog are much appreciated. Now if we can just quiet the holster sniffing crowd in this thread, maybe some real discussion can take place.
- bill bong
retiring, my work is done here
To Eric Mitchell.
"I usually spell it out and the M.O. retort is baseless and personal."
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I hope this wasn't refering to me and our collective past differences?
In the off chance that it is, I hope you're not dillusional enough to say that my discriptions or characterizations of what happened between us are baseless or personal.
M.O. - Martin Owings
Martin,
What are you talking about? This is what I mean about people not comprehending what's written only what they want to see.
Martin look at the top of that post and you'll notice that I'm talking directly to the 11:11 poster.
Again, you don't have to interpret what I'm saying, I say it straight up. The USUAL response is filled with personal accusations and baseless conclusions. I wasn't talking about you in particular but, if you feel that shoe fits...
M.O.= Modus Operandi (often used in the abbreviated forms MO, M.O. or simply Method) is a Latin phrase, approximately translated as "mode of operation".
Eric
Thank you for the reply Eric. I get it now.
One last thing, why are you always trying to put shoes on me? "If the shoe fits"
NO, THE DAMN SHOE DOES NOT FIT and that is probably at the heart of all our past differences.
M.O. Martin Operandi
Why Martin, shoes are the sign of a civilized society. Surely there is a pair with your name on them. I just haven't found them yet ;)
Eric
hilarious... now if this were some guy who was a month behind in child support, he would already be in jail! ramsey county is so friggin corrupt.
ok another point, I am just freaked that a bank teller would question change being brought in. I have 25 years worth of change in my closet... guess I will take it to Mystic lake to change it in.
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