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Thursday, July 19, 2007

8 Million Americans have smoked marijuana, including me

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Blogger Bob said...

Nick Coleman: Politicians need to clear the air and debate drug laws
By Nick Coleman, Star Tribune

Last update: July 17, 2007 – 7:41 PM

Eighty million Americans have smoked marijuana, including me.
I tried it five or six times, only because I am a slow learner. I am allergic to weeds. Nothing kills an illicit high faster than a sneezing fit.

But there are worse things than being allergic to marijuana. You could be allergic to common sense.

This country gets the hives when it thinks about changing direction in the war on drugs, which is being lost, with a large toll in ruined lives. Not just the lives ruined by hard drugs, but the lives ruined by the hard lines of politicians who know that the laws against marijuana possession are worse than the drug itself.

A couple of weeks ago, an old college pal of Norm Coleman called on Minnesota's senior senator to lighten the penalties for marijuana use. But that effort to point out the hypocrisy of a politician turned into a mudslinging free-for-all with three candidates for the Senate on the defensive about drug use of decades ago.

Remember that old anti-drug TV ad with eggs sizzling in a frying pan? Well, this is your campaign for the U.S. Senate seat from Minnesota. And this is your campaign on drugs.

Norman Kent, a Florida lawyer, was a pal of Coleman's at Hofstra University in the late 1960s. He wrote an open letter to Coleman (see it at www.celebstoner.com/content/view/243/34) in which he describes "a four-year haze" of marijuana smoke at Hofstra. Kent is on the board of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), a group that wants to legalize marijuana use by adults.

He wrote his letter after a report from the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, which claimed that marijuana use leads teens to become gang members.

The "gang" he and Coleman belonged to smoked marijuana and became lawyers, doctors and professors. One even went on to be a U.S. senator from Minnesota. But if Coleman had been arrested and charged under today's laws, he never would have made it.

"I was pointing out the hypocrisy of this one-time pot smoker who has scores of [college] friends he's still willing to criminalize," Kent says. "The laws he supports today would have prevented him from becoming who he is, and that's unacceptable to me, his old friend. Although I might not be his friend anymore."

Unfortunately, Kent's effort turned into a finger-pointing scrum in which candidates for Republican Coleman's seat reacknowledged the drug use in their pasts but said nothing about how the laws should be changed. So we learned DFLer Mike Ciresi smoked dope. "I did inhale," he said. And we heard (yet again) that DFLer Al Franken used drugs during his early years as a writer and performer on "Saturday Night Live."

The real question is not whether the candidates used to be dope heads. The question is whether they are political dopes now -- and hypocrites.

The claim that marijuana leads to the use of more dangerous substances is dubious (a 2002 study by the Rand Corp. found that wasting drug-fighting resources on marijuana might lead to more cocaine and heroin use). But one thing is clear: Marijuana is a gateway drug when it comes to prison. Use it, and you go through prison gates.

According to NORML, 700,000 Americans are arrested in marijuana cases each year, 90 percent merely for possession.

"Penalties against drug use should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself," former President Jimmy Carter has said. "Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against the possession of marijuana in private for personal use."

I don't know if marijuana should be legalized. But politicians of both parties are afraid to even discuss alternatives to the costly and ineffective war on drugs. And the cowardice is so pronounced that Gov. Tim Pawlenty has blocked passage of a medical-marijuana law by threatening to veto it. The result? No one will be kept from obtaining marijuana. Except the patients with chronic conditions or pain who will be unable to have marijuana prescribed for them by their doctors.

If you don't think there is something wrong with this state of affairs, I'd like to know what you're smoking.


Nick Coleman • ncoleman@startribune.com

8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

click above

8:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't even smoke a cigarette in most parts of the U.S. do you really think they are going to let you smoke marijuana. Legalizing it would also cut many jobs in the criminal justice system (CJS) there not going to jeapordize their own job security and legalize marijauna, even with the amount of tax money they could impose and savings in what it cost to arrest, prosecute, treat and house the non-violent drug offenders. Not to mention the fact that it would help people that are being treated for cancer.

9:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharon and Bill -

Do either of you smoke marijuana? I did in my reckless youth, it's time to let us know. We expect to know if our candidates did or do.

10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:46, you say you smoked pot in your reckless youth.

Tell me do you drink alcohol?

What in your opinion is reckless about smoking pot?

12:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Answer #1 - No, I do not drink, makes me sleep with ugly women.

Answer #2 - Re-read what I said, "reckless youth", not "reckless reefer"

2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dawkins admitted to smoking pot when he was running for Mayor. Maybe that's why he lost!

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:46 AM

Did you ask Dave Thune if he smokes marijuana? Hey Dave, keep your curtains closed for your privacy.

7:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking from my own personal use of marijauna which was very limited.( I did not care for the effects of the high)Keeping in mind that I am a former addict in recovery... My experience was that smoking it impaired my ability to function in a normal manner of any kind, it also affected my memory(not in a black out form but just in general). I do believe that the laws are to strict with the peanalties (for possession charges that don't involve violence)the jails & prison facilities should be for violent offender, drug offenses should have more of a focus on rehabilitation long term for success not failure with substantial a support system.

As for medical use I recall my father suffering from his cancer and the treatments that went aling with the illness. In situations when it comes to a medical use I feel it is a shame to deny these patients any type of drug that will have a positive effect for their comfort and health.

As for street use; in reality it is most likely safer then alcohol... how many people have blacked out from alcohol compared to marijauna? How many people have become violent from alcohol compared to marijauna? These are just some issues that should be considered. Both are addictive but from the individuals I have encountered that are under the influens of marijauna are usually very mellow and calm.

I can only speak from my own personal observation I am not by any means medically educated to state facts.

Nancy

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:46 AM
What's your favorite munchie when you're high? What's the best bud you've ever had?

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best bud I ever smoked was Minnesotan home grown!

Munchies/ to many to list. Any buffet will do!

There is negative side effects to marijuana. Short term memory lose. A loss of time. (Days fly by with heavy use).

Marijuana is safer than alcohol. I wouldn't recommend anyone in a position of learning to use marijuana. It prohibits ones ability to learn.

All side effects go away when a toker quits toking. No long term damage mentally or physically.

How do I know, I have toked for over 35 years. I am a financially secure.

7:39 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Over the years the US government has had many Universities study the effects of marijuana.

The federal government is a lot like our local government. When ever they want something their way they look for a study to point to to say, "see we done our home work and this stuff is bad".

The only problem with this is for every study the government received that highlighted the negatives of marijuana there is 5 studies that say it is harmless and has many benefits.

My kid got caught drinking alcohol about 3 years ago. He was a minor at that time and still under my care. I had to attend this substance abuse meeting with him on Payne Ave. for juveniles.

There were these speakers bashing pot left and right and saying very little about the real dangers to our youth such as METH & Xtascy.

The meeting would have been laughably funny if it didn't concern our kids.

The speakers stopped short of saying HOMEGROWN marijuana was bad. They were almost giving HOMEGROWN an endorsement. Like I wanted my kid smoking pot while he was in Home School. But, like I said they had a truck load of negatives to say about imported pot and barely anything to say to the kids about hard drugs.

I suppose if a kid had questioned them about this they would have said shut up and take your RIDDLIN.

This one kid described his abuse of marijuana as if he had won a battle against heroin addiction. (Where do they find these idiots?)

I smoke pot folks. And I INHALE! Rarely if ever do I consume alcohol. I do not do hard drugs. I like to have an ability to think when I am partying and marijuana doesn't hinder my thought process like booze.

The only "crime" concerning marijuana is what our government is doing to it's people over this harmless product. It's SHAMEFUL!

9:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Everyone,

I am a marijuana grower. A Saint Paul, Minnesota native. I live in Amsterdam now. I am here because I have a felony warrant in the states for cultivation.(No extradition warrant)

I have several awards for strains of marijuana I have produced here in Amsterdam.

America is my home. I miss my home!
However, I can not live in a country that oppresses it's people.

Marijuana prohibition is a farce, a con on the American people. A bunch of fat cats made a lot of money off of marijuana prohibition, and still are.

In the late 20's and 30's with the help of the ROCKAFELLARS media empire a number of politicians and other wealthy Americans set about a conspiracy to prohibit marijuana in the states so they could gain financially off of stock in Dupont over a chemical that helps produce paper out of pulp wood.

They played on American citizens fears and used racism and other methods to scare the public into believing marijuana was dangerous.

To this day they spread falsehoods about marijuana. Read "The Emperor Wears No Cloths" by Jack Herr. You think what I just said is a bunch of bullshit read the book and if you can prove these FACTS I just stated here wrong, you will receive over $150,000 from the author of this book. The book has been in print for over 15 years and NO ONE has claimed the prize.

The book documents the conspiracy.

If I was living at home in the states, I would be paying tax's on my product in excess of over $100,000 a year. I would be providing a healthy organic product.

The money's earned would be spent in Minnesota on cars, homes, food other merchandise. The products from marijuana are numerous, rope, canvas, clothing, oil, and more.

The imported marijuana maybe grown with pesticides and herbicides. The US Government use to spray these foreign crops with paraquat if they found a garden plot. The marijuana still ended up on American soil. Is this a government with consideration of it's people in mind?

If America would debate the facts on marijuana and ultimately legalize marijuana, a tremendous industry would bring prosperity to the states.

I'd like to come home and walk into my favorite liquor store and buy a pack of my product.

Until that day comes screw you fat cat bastards who perpetuate this lie of marijuana prohibition on Americans.

One last thing I really like your blog Bob. I feel connected with my roots when I lurk here. I will send a link to my friends whenever you post on this subject.

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now all we need to do is find out what Lantry and Mangner are smoking.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Dem seems to have attracted some felons with sanctuary in other countries.

Who was that other poster here sometime ago? "Jack Shepard" from Highland Park to Rome Italy with outstanding felony warrants for arson. Now this anonymous poster on this thread.

Is this a trend at A Dem? How many Minnesotans are wanted living in other countries? Why do they feel the need to post here? How in the world do they find out about this site?

Sorry for the off topic people. I just feel this is interesting.

1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:07, I think that be "crack'. ;-)

1:58 PM  
Blogger Sharon4Anderson said...

Sharon Anderson is boring, doesn't smoke-toke, chase guys or drink alto I had a screwdriver last nite watching a poolplayer at the Turf Club.1st in 10 years ie: www.cpljimanderson.blogspot.com SECRET: www.billhosko.com
apparantly has Thune Smoking again
Hey Thune- getting alittle Porky Sharon joined the YMCA to " work out baby work out" Sharons getting lean and mean.http://impeachments.blogspot.com Nancy your great, disciplened,

2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Bill Bong, er, Dahn too chicken to answer the question? C'mon Bill, tell us if you smoked the chronic.

2:15 PM  

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