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Pawlenty 'willing to listen' to talk of special session
Staff and wire reports
Article Last Updated: 06/01/2007 07:16:12 PM CDT
Gov. Tim Pawlenty refused Friday to slam the door on a special session to pass a reconfigured tax bill, but he expressed doubt about the Legislature's ability to pull off a quick in-and-out session.
The Republican governor left many Capitol players craving a special session by vetoing a bill this week that would have boosted local government allowances, provided immediate help for fire victims in northern Minnesota, fine-tuned the corporate tax code and subsidized two large business expansions.
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Audio: Gov. Pawlenty offers his thoughts on a special session
He stressed that he is "not inclined" to bring legislators back.
"We'd at least be willing to listen to the legislative leaders if that's what they want to do, but it's not necessary," Pawlenty said. "I'm skeptical about it because they seem unable to restrain themselves in terms of scope and their ability to agree."
Earlier Friday, Pawlenty responds
to criticism leveled by St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman. The mayor ripped the Republican governor Thursday for vetoing a tax bill that would have increased state subsidies to the city. Without that additional state aid, the city faces a $15 million budget shortfall next year.
In response, Pawlenty said during his weekly radio show this morning that St. Paul should take care of its own budget problems, instead of expecting the state to bail out the city.
"The city of St. Paul... gets more money in federal and state aid than they raise in their local property taxes," Pawlenty said. "It's not exactly a small or poor city."
Coleman shot back.
"The governor's comments accomplish nothing more than show that he is entrenched in a culture of empty rhetoric and schoolyard political tactics," the mayor said in a press release. "There is nothing I take more seriously than providing a safe, livable city for the residents of St. Paul. This conversation is about the future of the City of St. Paul and the State of Minnesota, not engaging in a political tit-for-tat."
The city received $59.5 million in state aid in 2006 while it levied $54.7 million in property taxes, according to the League of Minnesota Cities' on-line "property tax calculator."
"With all due respect to the mayor, there's more to leading a city than just complaining about what the state does and accommodating the protesters for the 2008 (Republican) national convention," Pawlenty said. "That seems to be the big agenda in St. Paul."
The governor said he supported increasing state aid to cities and would have signed the tax bill if legislators had not included a provision that required building inflation into the state's budget forecast, which he adamantly opposed.
Originally, he said, local government aid was intended to help small and property-poor cities. But the program has become distorted over the years. "Growing and very robust cities get half or more of their city budget paid for by the rest of the state," he said.
"When you have big, large urban centers and really big boom towns, regional centers getting 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of their city budget from the rest of the state, you might want to step back from that program and say, 'Are we being true to the original intention of that program?'"
Those cities should address their budget programs locally, he said.
Hey Coleman-
What would you call the Drunken Senator Metzen, to his FACE?
Thats why nothing get done, the democrats drink to much, and not do their work.
Good Work Tim.
At least Tim doesent drive, if he would drink
Democratic Party-AKA-AA
B S 1 more for the road.
10:06 brought to you courtesy of Bill Dahn
Hey Bill - did you every do any insulation work
Hi All,
Let's see if I can bring this thread back to the topic. Or, maybe nobody is interested in the budget shortfall. Heck, it isn't our problem anyway right? It's the City Council and Mayor Coleman's problem.:-)
I am just an average Joe like most folks who read here. I don't hang out at those public committee hearings at City Hall and watch the numbers crunch for funzies.
What I can contribute is some common sense. SIMPLY put, it was a very bad political decision for the Mayor to threaten cuts to public safety to put pressure on our Governor for some "WELFARE" money from the state to bail the City out of it's budget shortfall. Coleman was looking for his allotted "Emergency Assistance" for the year. And he is stomping his feet because he didn't get it. This is how poor people feel when they don't get what they want from welfare.
If I couldn't make my household budget I'd have some choices to come up with for money to meet my household expenses.
Let's see, I could run right down to Human Services and get some "Emergency Assistance".
I could borrow from family or friends. No, to proud to do that.. I could get some extra work! Sell a TOY. Take on a room mate. What I am trying to say is there is alternatives even for the CITY.
Boat landing fee's, parking meters on Grand Ave. and University up there by Porky's. Maybe the City should cut spending. Have a state auction and get rid of junk. This is just a few ideas. I am sure there is some numbers crunchers out there who can easily meet this budget short fall without doing something as irresponsible as cutting public safety, using this as a political football.
Mayor, kick and stomp because you didn't get your WELFARE EMERGENCY ASSITANCE but don't use fear tactics or punish the public by making it possible for the criminals to commit more murder and mayhem because you think it is a good political tool to say these things.
"Oust" Mayor Chris Coleman.
I have to laugh at what Chris Coleman said; "The governor's comments accomplish nothing more than show that he is entrenched in a culture of empty rhetoric and schoolyard political tactics."
Excuse me mayor, are you talking about yourself? You are as entrenched in the leftwing of the DFL Party as a person can go.
It is the responsibility of all people to live within our budgets. The responsibility of the mayor is to provide public safety services first then the other services. The city, just like you and I, has to live within our means.
I agree with 10:21 P. M.; Chris Coleman has got to go. Coleman has been in office now for almost two years and he is still not have a pulse of the city. Coleman is out of tough with the working man. The working man does not want welfare, but they want to keep what they earn. By taxing the average citizen to death is not the key mayor Coleman.
FYI: The Coleman machine is already working hard at trying to eliminate the competition for the next mayoral race in 2009.
St. Paul will never grow under Chris Coleman’s vision, but will regress to a point of no return.
Good night.
Sleepless in St. Paul over how our city is being run.
WAKE UP AMERICA -
IF NOT NOW "WHEN"?
I added the Hennepin County Minnesota Twins Ballpark tax to the list below.
Taxing the people to build a ballpark for a billionaire. Are you hot enough yet?
How about a New Year's resolution to take back our cities, counties and nation?
When you're ready to fight give me a call.
Sincerely,
Leslie Davis
Did "You" Pay
Your "Taxes"?
Axle Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory tax
IRS Interest & Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Marriage License Tax
Minnesota Twins Ballpark Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Social Security Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State Local Surcharge Tax
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone State And Local tax
Utility Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
TAXES
Tax his cow, tax his goat, tax his pants, tax his coat
Tax his tractor, tax his mule, teach him taxes is the rule
Tax his food, tax his drink, tax him if he tries to think
When he hollers tax him more, tax him 'til he's good and sore
Tax his coffin, tax his grave, tax the sod in which he's laid
Put these words upon his tomb, "Taxes drove me to my doom..."
When he's gone, we won't relax, we'll come after the inheritance tax
Thank You "Leslie Davis"
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Bill Dahn
Bill, every now and then you throw a gem at us. Nice post made me laugh.
Pawlenty opens door to a limited special session
But the governor also downplayed the chances, saying DFL leaders would want a scope broader than just addressing the vetoed tax bill.
By Mark Brunswick, Star Tribune
Last update: June 01, 2007 – 9:14 PM
Gov. Tim Pawlenty
David Brewster , Star Tribune
While voicing skepticism about the value, Gov. Tim Pawlenty on Friday left open the possibility of a limited special legislative session to address issues left on the cutting room floor by his veto of a tax bill earlier in the week.
Pawlenty said he could envision a one-day or a half-day special session to deal with specific measures such as increases in aid to local governments. But he also said he had doubts that legislative leaders could show the discipline to keep the effort focused.
He underscored his concerns by having spokesman Brian McClung call reporters afterward to reiterate that Pawlenty did not think a special session is necessary, is not inclined to call one and is skeptical of the agenda remaining limited.
The focus of any special session - which only a governor can call - would be provisions of the vetoed tax bill. The veto scuttled more than $70 million in local government aid and $33 million in direct homeowner property tax relief. Also falling to Pawlenty's veto pen were public subsidies for expansion of the Mall of America and Thomson West publishing, as well as a state guarantee of costs associated with next year's Republican National Convention.
Addressing what he called a "summer ritual" of speculation about a special legislative session, Pawlenty said local government and property tax relief could be things addressed in a special session, but cautioned that legislative leaders "seem unable to restrain themselves in terms of scope and ability to agree."There are some nice things, some optional things that would have been good to have been completed this year, and so we'd at least be willing to listen to the legislative leaders if that's what they want to do. But it's not necessary," Pawlenty said after attending a ceremony as part of a celebration of the St. Paul Cathedral's centennial.
Blame game afoot
While Pawlenty had raised other objections, the prime cause of his veto on the tax bill was a provision requiring that inflationary spending increases be assumed in future budget forecasts. Republican Pawlenty said the provision would allow for unhealthy government growth. But DFL leaders said it more accurately reflects the state's financial position, pointing out that Minnesota is the only state in the country that does not include inflation in its forecasting.
Rep. Tom Rukavina, DFL-Virginia, the chairman of the House Higher Education and Work Force Development Division, called a news conference Friday morning to decry Pawlenty's calculations as "weapons of math destruction."
Pawlenty said his office has been hearing from the principals involved in such things as a state subsidy for infrastructure as part of a $1.7 billion expansion of the Mall of America and the expansion of Thomson West's Eagan campus, "but the general public hasn't been calling in."
In particular, Pawlenty laid the blame for the veto on Senate Majority Leader Larry Pogemiller, DFL-Minneapolis, who had insisted that the inflation adjustment provision remain in the tax bill.
"Whatever the consequences of this veto, Senator Pogemiller and the DFL leaders choose this outcome. Any fallout from this needs to lead back to Senator Pogemiller's office," Pawlenty said.
Criticism of St. Paul's mayor
House and Senate DFL leaders weren't the only targets of Pawlenty's displeasure on Friday. On his weekly radio show, he criticized St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman for his response to the Pawlenty veto. Coleman said Pawlenty's veto shifted the fiscal burden onto local governments, leaving the city with a $15 million deficit, "which has jeopardized our ability to continue investing in public safety programs and provide quality core services such as parks and libraries."
Pawlenty also said that St. Paul should not expect the state to bail out the city for its financial woes.
Coleman and Pawlenty appeared at the ceremony laying a wreath for the centennial of the St. Paul Cathedral, separated in the procession by U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum. Shortly afterward, Coleman's office released a statement.
"The governor's comments accomplish nothing more than show that he is entrenched in a culture of empty rhetoric and schoolyard political tactics. There is nothing I take more seriously than providing a safe, livable city for the residents of St. Paul. This conversation is about the future of the city of St. Paul and the state of Minnesota, not engaging in a political tit-for-tat."
Mark Brunswick • 651-222-1636 • mbrunswick@startribune.com
It is still a nice post, with the truth added.
Taxes are what will start a revolution, remember 1776?
The Boston Tea Party.
Don't get that confused with the Democratic Party.
Maybe?
We all are talking about the same thing, treatment by all parts of city, county, state, and federal government and their agency's.
The list of agency's are astronomic.
So to mention taxes we all pay,if it makes you sick.
Think about the elderly,disabled, the poor, and your friends, are sick of being taxed to death.
Bill Dahn
Bob keep up the laughs!
I can just see Chris coming out of the Welfare office stomping his feet & cursing because he didn't get his food stamps. Now he is appealing the Human services decision. :-)
LOL.................
If Coleman isso concerned about the city, why doesn't he do something to help people try and regain their trust in the city?
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