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Friday, April 09, 2010

Ashtabula County: Judge tells residents to "Arm themselves"

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's the kind of
Judge Ramsey County needs.
The NRA will love to hear of a judge talking about getting arms and protect yourself's, I would say give that judge a 21 gun salute.
We would like that here in St.Paul and we can protect our homes and family members from government invasion.
Here comes the Judge


Bill Dahn

10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill, are you even allowed to own a gun?

Read the story, this is not about government invasion, its about government failure. The Sheriff’s Department has been cut from 112 to 49 deputies. With deputies assigned to transport prisoners, serve warrants and other duties, only one patrol car is assigned to patrrol the entire county of 720 square miles.

It sounds like the elected officials in the county failed to provide enough revenue to fund a basic service, law enforcement. If I paid taxes in that county, there would certainly be hell to pay- again 60% cut in law enforcement and ONE patrol care for 720 sqaure miles!?!? The elderly have to be scared to death. That's about 9 to 11 hours to patrol the entire district, without any calls or stops.



Eric

10:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is a mental health exam required to purchase a handgun?

12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously not.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/07/AR2010040703556.html

12:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

attention on the vicious verbal attacks that other Democratic legislators have faced over their support of the health care overhaul.

That was quite the protest at U S Senator Al Franken's office on Plato St.
The older people can and will make their opinion's heard to our elected officials.
Give three cheers for our elders, they have the gut and the determination to stand up for their rights.

9:18 AM  
Anonymous MBerg said...

Read the story, this is not about government invasion, its about government failure. The Sheriff’s Department has been cut from 112 to 49 deputies.

Well, yeah - but it'd be even more interesting to see what the county goverment in its infinite "wisdom" decided to spent its money on - since I'm guessing taxes did not trop by 2/3.

But the judge is right; people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own protection. It is, indeed, the duty of every law-abiding American to own and be proficient with a firearm for self-defense.

attention on the vicious verbal attacks that other Democratic legislators have faced over their support of the health care overhaul.

Wow. The propaganda did its job! The "attacks" are in line with the sort of abuse that public figures, especially congresspeople, get over ANY major issue. I know - because I asked Rep. Bachmann's office. It's a constant thing.

But the Dems nationwide are playing the victim card to try to stigmatize dissent.

Sorta like some people around here do with the whole "slumlord" thing.

3:07 PM  
Anonymous MBerg said...

Oh, yeah:

Is a mental health exam required to purchase a handgun?

No, but to get a carry permit one can not have a record of violent mental illness.

Irrelevant, really; carry permit holders (who pass background checks and training classes) commit crimes at a rate two orders of magnitude below the general population.

In other words - yes. We gunnies are, in aggregate, better citizens than the rest of you.

You're welcome.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill really pisses off Eric to the point they wish to shut him up with their un-true remarks about him.
No one address the issue about the EPA Report on the Koch Oil land, where they built the Sholom Home and what's up city hall?
Liar, cheats, dishonest city code enforcement, covering their own asses and not representing it's people.

7:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mitch - this is a rural county on the Pennsylvania border. I doubt that what you are seeing is the county reprioritizing its budget to start new social service projects.

My guess is much like Minnesota, you are seeing the state cutting its support for local government forcing the locals to either raise property taxes or cut employees.

Few states allow local governments to have an income tax, Minnesota doesn't. So, many states have had histories of taxing you through the income tax and then giving it to local governments to keep property taxes down.

In most counties the number one pool of employees is the sheriff's department.

If you go to the sheriff's web site, you will find that they are now closed for lunch between noon and 1 PM...

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

9:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill, I mean, 7:19am,
Bill really pisses off Eric to the point they wish to shut him up with their un-true remarks about him


I showed up here and wrote about the story since Bill clearly didn't (couldn't?) read it. This numb-skull is talking about government invasion in a county where they have no money to support the government. No one is telling him to shut-up. The more he talks, the better he makes his side looks.


Eric

10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Eric! Bill go fuck yourself with your off topic bullshit.

10:39 AM  
Anonymous M Berg said...

Mitch - this is a rural county on the Pennsylvania border.

It's an exurban strip between Cleveland and Erie - not exactly "Deliverance".

I doubt that what you are seeing is the county reprioritizing its budget to start new social service projects.

You may be right. You may be wrong. You don't know! But I'm gonna guess that all county spending did not get cut by 2/3.

My guess is much like Minnesota, you are seeing the state cutting its support for local government forcing the locals to either raise property taxes or cut employees.

Ah. Going back on that "Ohio Miracle" we all heard so much about 40 years ago?

Wait - again , you're guessing. You have no idea.

Maybe it was the people of the county themselves who said "enough is enough" to taxation, and the county government, being passive-aggressive types like all too many government officials, decided to cut the services that people actually needed and used (kinda like when both city governments laid off cops and firemen, but didn't touch, say, human rights offices or convention and visitors bureaus); because nothing gets people to feel government's pain like passing it on via the services they actually NEED.

If you go to the sheriff's web site, you will find that they are now closed for lunch between noon and 1 PM...

Which is a tipoff that it's not really a "small rural" area. Most small town sheriff offices I grew up around did the same.

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mitch....

Just a couple of points. You don't know and I don't know why exactly that county had to cut back the sheriff's department as much as they did, but having actually dealt with a city budget I know one thing is true, not all money is able to be spent the same.

Money that comes from the Fed's to build a road, can't be spent on cops.

Money that comes into the HRA from the Fed's for development can't be spent on cops.

Money that comes from the hotel, motel tax that is dictated by the state to be spent on the convention and visitors bureau can't be spent on cops.

Money that comes from the 1/2 sales tax for capitol improvement projects can't be spent on cops.

Money that is collect from licensing fees can't be spent on beat cops.

Only clean money from property taxes and LGA is spent on cops, and it competes heads up with libraries and parks and other essential services.

Only a portion of the city's budget comes from the property taxes and that is where cops and fire fighters get paid.

JMONTOMEPPPOF

Chuck Repke

3:35 PM  

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