A Walk Into The Past With Finney & Fletcher
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If the DFL had its choice they would appoint Finney, the second most corrupt police chief St. Paul has ever had, the first being John O'Connor, 1920.
Bill "Chief" Finney used to wear Chief John O'Connor's badge with the big diamond in it around the police department. Talk about two peas in a pod.
Finney has his cronies like one individual who is a current Commander in the vice unit. This commander was seen putting up campaign signs with a convicted drug dealer. This particular drug dealer was a former cop who was convicted of copying down license numbers from undercover police cars and then running the numbers and supplying this information to his drug dealing family. This put many police officers at risk. After the feds sealed his records, this individual worked for a security company in St. Paul. The security company's president is very good friends with Finney. So what does Finney do, he hires this same drug dealer ex-cop who turned in his fellow officers to his drug running family to watch the St. Paul Police impound lot.
Take Aaron Foster, Finney's friend. Finney helped him cover up the Barbara Winn murder.
How about Finney's friend from the fire department who took the pictures for a police year book that was never published. Finney's friend made a bundle on selling these picture packages to the officers in violation of city regulations.
Finney, please tell the public about the gun cabinet you had built in your office for your gun collection at city expense. It took a Sgt. over a weeks time to build this. Taking him away from the street and the city paid for it.
How about the "Golden Gun" valued at over $2,500.00. Finney only paid $250.00 for it. How about the letter you had a police department secretary write to the gun company stating the value at only $250.00 so you could buy it through the St. Paul Police Gun Club. The gun club still has the records Bill and so does the ATF.
Finney how about the Get Out Of Jail free letters you gave your friends.
How about all the tape recordings you made from your office phone in the chief's office. You know the recorder you kept in the right hand drawer of your desk. Let's play the tapes to the public Finney. Did the public purchase these tapes, if so where are they Bill?
Finney, please explain the cell phone you used at city expense to make personal and business calls on. This would be interesting to hear your explanation. Also the numbers called on it would also tell a very interesting story Bill. Is Linda listening? Please tell us why she was the only law enforcement officer required required to sign in at the front desk before she entered the police department. All others are buzzed through. Why didn't you her to come directly to your office unannounced? Your wife, Linda just happened to be in charge of the Minnesota BCA at the time and she would have had to act in the capacity of a law enforcement officer is she were to see something going on in your office. This is unlike your standard of protecting your friends, Linda would have thrown you in jail.
Next, Finney please tell the real story about how you lost your gun and badge when you were chief. Please, oh pretty please tell the public the real story as it is really very interesting.
Finney, please tell the public about the car shows and all the "Extra" stuff you demanded fellow officers to do for your benefit at city expense.
Finney, please tell the public why you let Aaron Foster take a city squad car home everyday and provided gas for this car at city expense. Why has Aaron Foster not reimbursed the city for this expense?
Finney, please tell the public about how you denied permits to carry to law abiding citizens with perfect records, but instead gave a permit to carry to Aaron Foster who you personally know beats women. Please tell the public how these women came to you and told you Aaron beat or threatened to kill them and you did nothing to protect these women.
Finney, please tell the public that after watching Aaron Foster assault Barbara Winn you failed to act in the capacity of a police officer and stop this assault. Bill you are really a small person to allow a man to hit a woman. Bill you even sold Aaron Foster a handgun after all of this.
Finney, please tell the public how after learning Aaron Foster verballu assaulted and threatened your fellow police officers, you sided with Aaron Foster and allowed him to continue to behave this way towards your fellow police officers under your command? Would you like to share with the public the information contained in the lawsuit that was brought against you and the city by that police officer Aaron Foster threatened. Finney, please tell the public how you lost this case big time. Not only did the city have to pay big money to the police officer, but attorney fees as well. Nice one Finney, this cost the city taxpayers lots of money. Oh, Finney I forgot, did I mention how you put a reprimand in this police officer's file without telling the officer because they had complained about Foster. Did you forget about due process? Talk about getting back at someone.
Why didn't you do anything about the gang problem in St. Paul? You delegated a low level officer to the Metro Gang Strike Force Task Force. Why was this Bill, too many of your friends involved?
Bill Finney if you think we have forgotten all the stuff you did as chief and what you allowed your friends do and get away with you are sadly mistaken.
Thank goodness we have Chief Harrington as our police chief now. Chief Harrington is one class act unlike you.
Is that a photo of Police Chief Harrington with Finney?
How about Foster's former wife asking Chief Finney for help and being refused just like he did for Barbara Winn. Finney protected his friend Foster over protecting a lady. Who sold Foster the gun he used to hit his wife with? None other than Finney (Reported in the St. Paul Pioneer Press and Minneapolis Star Tribune). After all this known violence towards women, Chief Finney gaves Aaron Foster a permit to carry when he denied 99.99% of these same permits to carry to law abiding citizens.
Had Finney been any type of man he would have stepped in and protected either of these ladies. What did he do, Finney protected his friend.
Why did Finney protect his friend instead of doing the right thing?
As a former law enforcement officer and trained by the FBI, Finney knows how to use the system. I say bring Finney in now for questioning (any means possible) and question him over the Winn murder. Make sure his high buck attorney is with him, as we do not want to violate any of Finney’s rights. It seems Finney did not care if Winn’s rights were violated when he let Foster beat Winn or the other girlfriends Foster has beaten. Finney turned a blind eye to this domestic abuse towards women.
It would be nice the next time we are stopped by a cop for a traffic violation that we refuse to cooperate, and state, "I can not in good conscience work with you because I believe you lack the integrity, professionalism and ethical conduct required of a law enforcement officer." I would like to see just how long it is before I am put in cuffs or have a bloody nose for being a smart-ass.
Finney has a lot of explaining to do in the Foster – Winn death investigation. The current issue is Finney’s refusal to cooperate in a murder investigation. I say lock him up until Finney is willing to cooperate. Finney knows there is no statute of limitations on murder. So no matter how long or hard he tries, this will NEVER go away until Foster is tried in a court of law. Now, the world is watching the Anoka County Attorney’s office, will they do the right thing?
The best possible way Finney could save face in this situation is to cooperate with Ramsey County and all agencies that are investigating the death of Barbara Winn. Finney’s refusal only now to cooperate with the Ramsey County investigators is very surprising. It seems in the past when Aaron Foster was in trouble; Finney went to Ramsey County officials several times and was very willing to stick his nose in. Why does Finney now choose to avoid Ramsey County investigators? Finney wants to play a political spin game, divert attention away from the real issue. Finney is a master at doing this. Again, Finney is showing his yellow side, if he were any man at all, he should be the law enforcement officer he “claims” to be and do what is right. Finney was yellow when he refused to help Bobbie and protected his friend instead of helping Bobbie when she went to Finney for help.
Again, Finney is taking the yellow way out. Finney should have his SUV painted yellow, so the city that he has conned for the last 30 + years can now see his true colors.
YELLOW!
Finney is just yellow, plain YELLOW. In the next election I can just see Finney’s campaign signs, they will be the color of YELLOW to match the individual he really is.
YELLOW!
A step into the future dragged over here from SPIF...
Sheriff Fletcher has a heart.
From: Renee Jenson Date: 2007-05-10 15:49 (UTC) Short link
Check out Tuesday and Wednesday's Extra on KARE 11.
http://www.kare11.com/news/investigative/extras/
They did a great job discussing the mental health crisis that we are dealing
with in the city. How the closing of all the mental health facilities has
resulted in the mentally ill being the responsibility of law enforcement and
are filling our jails and emergency rooms.
Sheriff Fletcher allowed Kare 11 into the jail so they could see the problem
for themselves. They were shocked. Sheriff Fletcher did a great job
explaining that the mentally ill do not belong in jail and law enforcement is
not equipped to take care of them.
They also showed some officers using Crisis Intervention Team (CIT) training
for those of you that don't know what it is. It is the de-escalation method
employed by the Hennepin County officers when they encountered mentally ill
people in crisis.
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ReneeFrom: Amy Horst Date: 2007-05-11 03:06 (UTC) Short link
PBS did a great documentary about two years ago on the increasing trend
toward putting mentally ill people in jail when mental health
facilities
close. The program focused on Ohio's prison system, but in light of
KARE
11's report it may now be more relevant to us.
Here's the link to the program and additional information:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/
Amy Horst
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Hmmmm, what is the issue with Finney?
Why can't Sheriff Fletcher EVER be critiqued on his action without one of his lackies bringing up Finney?
Fletcher is a grown man that's been Sheriff for 12 years. His shortfalls should not be cross-checked with Bill Finneys. It doesn't make sense to say "Nevermind what I'm doing AS Sheriff, look at what Finney DID when he was Cheif."
Let's say Finney is guilty ad goes to jail- what on earth has that to do with Bob Fletcher?
Bob Johnson, like a Fletcher lackey, bites at this crap.
Hey Bob, you posed a question about the functionality of having an elected or appointed Sheriff. Instead of you wheeling that conversation back to the subject- you let it devolve into a Finney/Fletcher debate and then to fuel it- you start and entire different topic that's is more emotional than intellectual- which the first one was. I can only assume that you're doing it because you know it will generate posts.
How about getting your group to discuss the actual benefits or pitfalls of the question without assigning names of two guys who won't be on the balot the next time around?
12:13, Someone asked me to post the photo's..I thought Bill and Bob would like to see the images of times gone by. :-)
This is a community blog.. I am merely a host.
All us uneducated people here who don't know how to spell relate more to emotional rather then intellectual content. We also vote.
...and you'll be able to vote on this issue too. The Charter Commision is only agreeing to put the question on the ballot for the voters to decide. Some of you have drawn the conclusion that the voters are going to vote to ak the position an appointed one.
We have done a lot more than drawn a conclusion, we have already projected the outcome of the vote becaue we know how stupid and ignorant the poeple of St Paul are. After all, look at who they elect to the city council, that's all the further one needs to look.
Hey Genius,
St Paul voted for Finney but, the overal county voted for Fletcher. Its a COUNTY issues. There are MORE votes outside of Saint Paul than inside.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your uninformed statements.
St Paul people should not be alloweed to vote for Sheriff cause they're too stupid for one and they have their own Police Department for two.
sorry about the mis-spelling, I meant to say Police Department for too.
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Bob,
I thought this thread was A walk into the past with Finney & Fletcher. What does 8:28 AM's post have to do with Finney or Fletcher?
Maybe we have a new Bill or Sharon on our hands.
Tired of off thread posts.
Just another play from the DFL playbook.
Throw as much stuff out there to confuse the citizens so they do not get the real story.
Keep to the topic 8:28.
So far the entire post has been off. One comment on the photo ad the rest is a diatribe against Bill Finney who now is a private citizen.
If we want to talk about the Winn cover-up, make a new thread. If we want to talk about Saint Paul Police corruption from his time as cheif, start a new thread. If we want to talk about Fletcher- or the Sheriffs office, then it appears that people will only allow you talk about Finney.
Finney is Funny!
Finney met once a week at St. Paul restaurant, Mancini's Char House with a "GUN" dealer.
The Gold Beretta Pistols that belong to a drug dealer, just happened to walk out of the property room at the ST.Paul police Department.
Finney had it.
I see someone commented about the Gold Gun.
How much drugs, just happened to walk out also?
Does anyone out there know how to tell the crooks, from the good people?
The crooks, have badges.
If the democrats have their way, all illegal's can vote.
They would like to appoint the Sheriff, The St.Paul Mafia would be in power.
Build NEW and tear down the old, unions workers would be making the bucks.
"Finney", another one bites the dust!
2:24, or should I say Bill Dahn.
Did you see any drugs walk out of the police station or do you have a credible source for this slanderous information?
If not shut your a hole!
I think 2:24 has a point, the crooks do have the power. Just look around. The city lesaders are not interested in stopping crime, they enable it by blaming everyone else. Todys newspaper story says it all when the arrest the guy who shoots the perp and the perps walk away free. The city won't address the "liveabilty issues" in the neighborhood which lesad to more crime by the way, our leaders prefer to blame, prosecute, and punish landlords because they are a politically "safe" group for them to bully and persecute.
It's not just one person, the whole damn city is run by crooks for crooks and they are all protecting their own, the decent citizens be damned!
How credible is DFL Bill Finney, and the allegations about Aaron Foster murdering Barbara Winn. The real story was covered up, by so many over the years.
The Winn family wants justice.
Even if Foster and Finney, both go to jail.
A new day, and life behind bars.
What happens to a dirty cops in jail.
So if that's correct, isn't Fletcher a crook as well since he's elected? He was on the city council too before being Sheriff.
Fletcher is God....he does no wrong.
Bob Fletcher is better than any of these Council people. He had the guts to stand against equal rights when he was there. He voted alone against every civil and human rights ordinance they brought to a vote. Bill Dan would have been proud of him.
Fletcher was just ahead of his time on this one. Little did he know he could have gotten rid of them in a systematic way. Unfair uneven code enforcement.
He gave up too early and moved away from them out to Shoreview. Quitter.
One thing about Finney is he used the system for his personal gain, Bob used the system to make our city and county a better place.
Finney lined his pockets, protected his friends and was a DISCRACE to all in law enforcement.
Fletcher works for the good of the community, Finney worked for the betterment of Finney. Big difference here folks.
Why doesn't Finney cooperate with the Winn death investigation? Because he has something to hide. He covered up for his friend Foster. Finney does not have the guts to be a man and even protect women when they come to him for help. I can tell you if he ever hit Linda, she would put his tail in jail.
Fletcher is a bully who threatened private citizens, cheated the voters of full disclosure, sank the non-DFLers last chance for a Saint Paul City Council seat and handed it over to Lee Helgen, hired thugs to be deputies, covered-up the unprofessional actions of his Office and has had the FBI investigations every year he's been there. Most people agree the the SPPD is heds ad tails over the others in this state. Most people also know the vindictive petty political inbreeding that goes on over at the Sheriff's Department. Again, you doubt any of this, ask our favorite female poster why her boyfriend, a long time deputy, did not support Fletcher. Also, ask her what happened to him when he excercised his so-called freedom.
Rumours can be left to describe Finney but, these are facts about this Sheriff.
10:37 AM
You call these rumors about Finney.
I beleive Ross Lundstrom, a former deputy chief under Finney and backed up by many St. Paul Police officers have stated the failure Finney was and is.
How about the lawsuit that was brought against the city andf Finney. Statements of fact by law enforcement officers who dared speak out against Finney.
Talk about all the extras Finney received while he was chief (car shows, guns from the St. Paul police club, favors for friends, hiring drug dealing friends to watch the police impound lot).
Finney was not in it for the public good, but for his own good.
Again, howe many FBI investigations on the Sheriff's Department? Too many. Zero on the police department under Finney.
All of this stuff about Finney is illegal, so why has nothing been done. If the city and county (ran by Fletcher) are too chicken, then why haven't the FBI stepped in? They seem to be over here every year investigating something the Sheriff has been involved with. Why not Finney?
Because, maybe aside from fumbling the Winn case, its bullshit. As many people that don't like Finney, you'd think that any evidence would be blown up into at least an official investigation but, we got nothing.
Nothing but rumours from Anonymous posters and former subordinates with an axe to grind. Live with it.
The FBI is investigating in St Paul. My friend has been talked to by them and they asked just as many questions about the involvment of the Police Dept. in the code inspections mess as they did about the code inspectors and its process. Only trouble with FBI is that it takes them years to ever do anything. 5 years from now we'll probably find out what it's all about!
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