Attorney John Shoemaker of the Fair Housing Lawsuits representing Greg Ryan
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VB Event Log:
09/15/2010: New Category 2 - Single Family Residential
09/15/2010: $1100 registration fee due on 09/15/2010
11/16/2010: Gregory Ryan owned this property before it became a Cat. 2 VB. Permits may be issued under his ownership after a Code Compliance Report is completed and the VB fee has been paid. RS
11/17/2010: DSI Code Compliance Inspection Fee Paid
11/17/2010: FEE PAID BY CHECK
12/01/2010: DSI Code Compliance Inspection Completed; Report Pending on 12/01/2010
12/07/2010: Code Compliance report sent. ml
Document
Complaint Date: 09/15/2010
Initial Inspection: 09/15/2010
VB Category 2 - Single Family Residential
Next Inspection on or after: 02/01/2011
Inspector: 326
Inspection Results (most recent first):
01/18/2011: VB Monitoring (Recheck)
12/21/2010: VB Monitoring (Recheck)
11/15/2010: VB Monitoring (Recheck)
10/19/2010: VB Monitoring (Recheck)
09/23/2010: Garbage/Rubbish (In Compliance-No Action)
VB Monitoring (Recheck)
09/15/2010: Garbage/Rubbish (Summary Abatement-Comply By: 09/22/10)
VB Monitoring (Recheck)
Remove litter in front yard and any trash in rear yard Parks Summary Abatement
Type: Garbage Rubbish
Entered on: 07/02/2010
Closed on: 07/06/2010
Follow up on C of O folder approved with corrections. Referral
Type: C of O
Entered on: 06/30/2010
Closed on: 07/22/2010
Certificate of Occupancy
Type: Residential 1 Unit
Occupancy Type: Dwelling Units
Residential Units: 1
Class: C
Renewal Due Date: Jun 30, 2011
09/13/2010: Condemned/Vacant - 2
Remove from trash from the front and bagged and loose refuse in the rear and on driveway. Parks Summary Abatement
Type: Garbage Rubbish
Entered on: 06/02/2010
Closed on: 06/02/2010
Follow up on C of O folder approved with corrections. Referral
Type: C of O
Entered on: 11/13/2009
Closed on: 01/29/2010
Certificate of Occupancy
Type: Residential 1 Unit
Occupancy Type: Dwelling Units
Residential Units: 1
Class: B
Completed on: 06/30/2010
Paid In Full = Yes
Inspection Results (most recent first):
06/30/2010: Approved w/Corrections
1. STORM DOOR: Ext. Door SPLC 34.09 (3), 34.32 (3) (Deficiency - 4th reinspection) - Severity 3
2. Heating Equipment Maintenance SPLC 34.11 (6), 34.34 (Abated - 2nd reinspection) - Severity 5
3. No water SPLC 34.11(4), 34.34(1) SPC 4715.0200A (Abated - 4th reinspection)
4. Required Smoke Detector Affidavit SPLC 39.02(c) (Abated - 2nd reinspection) - Severity 9
05/27/2010: Condemned/Occupied
Please remove paper, bottles, cardboard, battery, tires, household debris from blvd yard areas at 1644 Bush Ave. Parks Summary Abatement
Type: Garbage Rubbish
Entered on: 07/17/2008
Closed on: 07/18/2008
Remove snow and ice from public sidewalk full width, salt and sand as needed. Parks Summary Abatement
Type: Snow Ice
Entered on: 01/03/2008
Closed on: 01/04/2008
Certificate of Occupancy
Type: Residential 1 Unit
Occupancy Type: Dwelling Units
Residential Units: 1
Class: B
Completed on: 11/13/2009
Paid In Full = Yes
Inspection Results (most recent first):
11/13/2009: Approved w/Corrections
1. REAR PORCH: Ext. Window Glass SPLC 34.09 (3), 34.32 (3) (Abated - 4th reinspection) - Severity 2
2. REAR DOOR: Dead Bolt Required SPLC 34.09 (3) i (Abated - 4th reinspection) - Severity 5
3. REAR EXIT: Ext. Door SPLC 34.09 (3), 34.32 (3) (Abated - 4th reinspection) - Severity 3
4. Unit llegal Locks MSFC 1003.3.1.8 (Abated - 4th reinspection) - Severity 4
5. Blank 1 (Deficiency - 1st inspection)
10/20/2009: Correction Orders
09/22/2009: Correction Orders
1. Roof SPLC 34.09 (1) e, 34.32 (1) d (Abated - 5th reinspection) - Severity 5
2. Provide Dryer Vent UMC 504.6 (Abated - 2nd reinspection) - Severity 3
07/29/2009: Correction Orders
1. Ext. Door SPLC 34.09 (3), 34.32 (3) (Abated - 4th reinspection) - Severity 3
2. Heating Equipment Maintenance SPLC 34.11 (6), 34.34 (Abated - 2nd reinspection) - Severity 5
3. Required Smoke Detector Affidavit SPLC 39.02(c) (Abated - 2nd reinspection) - Severity 9
07/14/2009: Revoked/Vacant - 2
Watch the Video City Attorney Jerry Henderickson advising Kathy Lantry
City is in trouble again Harris who is Pres of St.Paul Water Board strangely absent at this Hearing 19Jan2011
At all times Material some Rotten Tenant did not pay the Water Bill of $1,500 triggering Water Shut Off triggering Condemnation and Vacant Bldg. 1644 Bush on the East Side of St.Paul ie: Lantrys area.
The Citys Ponzi Schemes must be estopped immediately.
Thanks to Lawyer John Shoemaker to take the Case. 4 owner Greg Ryan of 11 University Ave.
Same happened to Affiant Sharon
www.sharon4anderson.org
Did you watch the case???
The owner paid the vacant building fee... waited 3 months to ask for a code compliance inspection and now his attorney wants a do over.
....I'm sorry council-members, I would like to turn back the hands of time and appeal the condemnation that would have never occurred if my client would have paid the water bill in September....
....forget that he paid the vacant building fee in November and give us a "do over" now that we know how much this is going to cost us...
OMG....
Look, I am a real estate broker, I tell everyone I come into contact with DO NOT LET THE WATER BE TURNED OFF IN YOUR BUILDING!!!!!
At least Lantry gave them two weeks to meet with the inspector and review the report on a walk through...
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Here is what John Shoemaker didn't say.
Section 8 approved this home prior to the condemnation. The city receives money from HUD and in receiving this money they agree to abide by federal housing standards.
The city is requiring Mr. Ryan to surpass the HUD housing requirements, thus the reason for bringing in a independent housing inspector.
I suspect the city will continue business as usual and this case will become part of the avalanche of lawsuits to hit the city in the coming years.
Expect the city to raise property tax's to pay for the litigation and judgements of all these law suits brought on by home owners.
The city machinery is in a stupor... until the hellfire and brimstone comes. I bet the perpetrators have getaway plans.
promises promises.
The only pattern that seems to be developing here is that people are suing for special treatment. If they would have followed the rules and met deadlines, the city would not have had to enforce the codes and they wouldn't be crying foul.
Shoemaker is making nice mint by representing the whining class of landlords who can't seem to get it together. This suit is because this guy couldn't follow the rules- that were already extended for him.
I don't know where these landlords come from but I'm thinking the rental business is not for them. Maybe they should go into recycling.
They also seem very dependent on 'special' status rules and government funding. Not a very good business model.
Eric
Saint Pauls building codes are illegal!
The city codes surpass state and federal laws.
Late for the hearing and gasping for air, quit smoking John. ;)
Bob, Bob, BOB, BOB!!!!!
He raised that issue, but that wasn't what was in front of the council. It is the repair order in front of the council.
If, IF, IF!!! The landlord would have appealed the condemnation in the first place back in September when the water was shut off... Paid the bill and showed up in front of Marsha and said...
"...the tenant didn't pay the bill as soon as I got notice of the $1,500.00 bill I paid the bill, don't declare the house vacant, I have another section 8 client lined up... and will be having a section 8 inspection on xx/xx/2010..."
I bet dollars to donuts that there would not have be a class 3 status on the house.
But, that isn't what happened in the real world. In the real world, he didn't pay the water bill, the house became cat 3, he paid the vacant building fee and he asked for a code inspection 3 months after it went vacant.
...and now the lawyer wants a "do over..." ...my client doesn't like what happened in the real world and I want you to pretend that it didn't happen....
The City has no idea what went on in the building between the last section 8 inspection and now.... but in landlord world, they should just assume all was well and that there wasn't any particular reason that it took him 3 months to get around to ask for an inspection of the building.
You can try to make this out to be a giant conspiracy but Ryan owns other rental property in Saint Paul he knows what the story is... you can't let the water be turned off!!!
There is a difference between an unoccupied building and a vacant building... and a vacant building is one where the water has been shut off.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
...and another thing....
Why would anyone who owns as much property in Saint Paul as this guy does have the tenant pay the water bill??? Are you freaking kidding me???
I mean you are asking the council to believe that you have to be stupid... Your livelihood depends on being able to rent the property. Your grandfathering status (old code issues) depends on keeping the building off of the vacant building list and you let the tenant pay the water bill when he gets around to it???!!!
Give me a break.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck said;
He raised that issue, but that wasn't what was in front of the council. It is the repair order in front of the council.
My response;
Chuck, John raised the issue but really didn't make it clear to us average Joe's. I helped him out.
John knew what was before the city council, he read all that stuff in as a matter of record to use against the city in future court proceedings should this issue progress. Just my opinion of coarse.
The only mistake Mr. Ryan made is, he should have hired John in the beginning of this mess. NOW, John has to rehash this deal from the beginning to clean it up.
Chuck said;
If, IF, IF!!! The landlord would have appealed the condemnation in the first place back in September when the water was shut off... Paid the bill and showed up in front of Marsha and said...
"...the tenant didn't pay the bill as soon as I got notice of the $1,500.00 bill I paid the bill, don't declare the house vacant, I have another section 8 client lined up... and will be having a section 8 inspection on xx/xx/2010..."
I bet dollars to donuts that there would not have be a class 3 status on the house.
My response;
In the real world this probably would of happened Chuck. But in Saint Paul we aren't dealing in realities. The housing policies that have been adopted by the city have an effect of generating income for the city and causing a disparate impact in low income neighborhoods. The city has nothing to gain by not getting into a landlords business. Private home owners have also become prey to city housing policies.
Chuck, Mr. Ryans building isn't a cat3, it is a cat2.
If the city has it's way this home will be renovated to the point it will no longer be affordable rental housing. This is written in stone--> Dawkins said; we must remove the lowest rung of rental properties.
3 federal judges say there is enough evidence to proceed with a jury trial to take a look at evidence to see if the city hasn't caused a disparate impact on our low income communities. The city will make one last futile attempt to get the federal fair housing lawsuits thrown out and they will lose. I will sit in on this jury trial everyday it is in court, then come here and give a report of the days proceedings.
If a property investor or home owner cannot pay his mortage payment and meet all the financial demands the city requires like costly inspection fees and union contractors to make repairs above and beyond state building codes, he or she will lose the house. Then the city ends up with another home sitting vacant for years.
It won't be to hard proving disparate impact Chuck. Rental properties in low income neighborhoods have been condemned at a much higher rate than any other home in the city.
And one more thing. The city is making a bundle off the abatement of trash.
I recently went to an administrative hearing on behalf of a Saint Paul citizen. As we were waiting for our case to be heard I watched a landlord attempting to get his abatement fee of over $400 waived. His abatement fee was for 3 bags of trash neatly tied shut sitting next to a trash can. And one piece of plywood leaning up against the garage next to the trash can. The fee in excess of $400 wasn't waived. DSI got a piece of this money and so did Parks and Rec.
This practice reminds me of thugs walking into a business and demanding protection money.
Tenants should be fined for trash! Landlords shouldn't be punished for a tenant not paying their water bill. Landlords shouldn't be taxed because a tenant didn't put his garbage in the trash can.
But then tenants don't have the kind of money the city is after either.
Bob,
The house is at 1644 Bush. Its not a bad block or a rough neighborhood. Its a nice little house, I am sure he can pull a decent rent out of the place. Its in the area I work in and I have no memories of any problems with the place.
Your conspiracy stories make no sense. There is no reason to go after this house and nothing that suggests that anyone ever did.
The guy didn't pay the water bill, let the building go vacent and the work orders were more than he thought they would be.
No conspiracies there Bob.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
It's all about city DFL thugs (employees to Chuck and Eric) who found a scam through code enforcement to rip off property owners.
12:26 - where is the money in it????
That is what I don't get out of this stuff...
Scams are suppose to have profit.
Take a look at the budgets for these departments they don't make money off of these fees and fines. It costs more to run the programs than they collect in fees.
From a financial benefit stand point to the City it would be best not to bother. But, as long as maintaining the quality of the housing stock is a goal of the City, then you have to inspect the housing stock.... and you need inspectors. What the City can legitimately charge as fees is what it costs to inspect and reinspect and inspect again the properties that are in violation.
The City then loses monies on those properties that don't pay the fees and the property goes back to the county. That money isn't recouped. The City also loses monies on the properties that they write up and the owner repairs the property.
So, all of the times that you guys talk about properties that were written up and the owners take care of whatever the City finds when they inspect, they don't get anything out of it. There is no fee.
So, if you get a write up for garbage, and you go out and have the garbage dumped, there is no fine. But, the City has inspected the property (let's say $100 an hour) and reinspected the property ($100) and have gotten $0 from you.
The system loses money.
The only time cash comes in is when the City puts the house on the vacant building list, forcing the City to go out and do regular inspections of the building and to do a code compliance inspection... all shit that costs them more money.
Great scam....
You guys are brilliant.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck I have to answer YOU_ The Citys PONZI SCHEMES_ When the City by FALSE INFORMNATION_FALSE STATEMENTS_ Ratify Assessments based on Theft of Cars, Personal Property_Trespass on Private Property__ and Treason Denial of State Laws. Exploiting Sharon from her WheelChair from Cops Stalking causing Fractured Ankle.
I was inside of 697 Surrey when Lantry gave the "Orders" to Steal Sharons Car,Trailer Apr.2006 THATS WHEN SHARON GOT A VIDEO CAMERA.
Chuck Google Sharon4Anderson v. City of St. Paul and Thousands of Records,Documents come up- UNABATED BY YOUR BUDDY DAVID THUNE CURRENT CHAIR OF HRA.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=Sharon4Anderson+v.+City+St.+Paul+MN&cp=35&qe=U2hhcm9uNEFuZGVyc29uIHYuIENpdHkgU3QuIFBhdWwgTU4&qesig=icSu3wtz96bKE1tKG9CB3g&pkc=AFgZ2tm1pKRr9VyKbzLgCHT8q4Hi5nkHGHMWxBxGA6PX6o7wawVXj3ARghidULqusKQfO9Av3cdqzqXRsaI83T0EWnlnNZi4Dw&pf=p&sclient=psy&site=&source=hp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=Sharon4Anderson+v.+City+St.+Paul+MN&pbx=1&fp=858ec4b45ed5f0be
I never said there was a conspiracy Chuck.
What I said was the city has a bad housing policy that is detrimental to citizens of the city.
And Chuck, I will pick up trash all day long for $400 per house.
I am busy right now and don't have time. When I get back I will post the fees the city charges home owners related to DSI inspections.
Hold onto your wallets folks the city wants your money.
"So, if you get a write up for garbage, and you go out and have the garbage dumped, there is no fine. But, the City has inspected the property (let's say $100 an hour) and reinspected the property ($100) and have gotten $0 from you."
What the hell do you think taxes are for you moron? They fund that department with the taxes and it pays for the inspections.
Believe me it doesn't take an hour to walk around someones yard to inspect for trash. And I bet there is a lot of code enforcement officers who WISHED they got $100 an hour.
Has anyone here ever, ever, ever run a business? I mean please. Things do not cost the business just what the hourly rate is of the employee doing the task.
Let's assume an inspector is pulling down $60,000 a year. That is $28.71 an hour. Add on to that health insurance ($18K a year), employer share of SSI ($5K), PERA ($5K) contribution... and the cost to the City per hour is closer to $42.30 for a $60K worker. Then you add on to that some percentage of the supervisor and the person that takes the phone call... don't forget the mileage on the vehicle being used... and $100 an hour is about what it costs to do an inspection.
...and I used it as a ball park figure...
And, 10:39 that is my point it costs tax dollars to do this.... it isn't a money making deal.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
...and Bob, it also takes time to write up reports and put reports onto computers and to do updates to the reports...
Really, really, nobody here has ever run a business and had to make a budget and figure out costs per hour... nobody...???
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
I'm so upset for Greg Ryan owner of 1644 Bush Lawyer John Shoemaker
The 63 page doc is now published on the Citys Web Site. Its hard to find "but for" the City Attorney Jerry Henderickson advising Kathy Lantry is getting SCARED He probably will retire soon Hopefully this link will work
http://stpaul.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=1138208&GUID=C44B92B3-2AB9-4A18-9029-86A90DE9A066
Chuck, I have pretty much been an entrepreneur most my life. I have also helped others establish successful businesses. I am not rich and never tried to obtain financial freedom, but I ain't starving either.
I won't get into your other comments I think folks understand it doesn't cost in excess of $400 to pick up a few bags of trash.
Instead I think it is important to review code enforcement officer Seegers inspection report of 1644 Bush. I will open a new topic for this.
Folk's you will be sickened by the skulduggery!
Keep checking in folk's, I am working on the story.
Thank you for the link Sharon!
Why even bother Bob. It'll probably be the same old shit that we have seen for years......lies, cons, unfairness, driven by the DFL agenda that Chcuk and Eric stick up for. That about right?
If you people read Shoemaker the 811 University Av. St. Paul Address is RELEVANT.
Is the City St.Paul harrassing Owners on University Ave for that "Damned" Light Rail.
Indirect_Direct Cons[piracy Theorys
We're talking Millions perhaps Billions to relocate University Ave. Persons_Business.
Never underestimate the Paper Work, Video' Testimony that techinally deposed Lantry.
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