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Sunday, December 23, 2007

Lakota -vs- United States

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9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can this work?

6:38 PM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

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7:18 PM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

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10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just how were those crookrd and fixed judges dealt with by the citizens? I seem to remember trees outside the courthouse having a special purpose other than "green agendas."

1:11 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

More interesting information here

10:35 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

The Lakota Nation Map

10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My great-great-grandfather was killed in 1862 during the sacking of New Ulm by the Lakota. He was a part of the Minnesota volunteers out of Saint Peter (part of the home guard while his brother and most able bodied men were in Virginia fighting the Civil War). The Lakota felt that they were not getting proper grain and beef shipments from the American government and attempted to rid southern Minnesota of the new residents. He died protecting them as the fled from New Ulm (which was burning at the time) to Saint Peter.

It is no doubt that the American government and the American people saw themselves in an ongoing battle against the native people for control of the land.

19th Century rules of warfare and their views of the intent of treaties are a little different when viewed with 21st century hind sight.

It is not unlike watching the ongoing unrest in Europe or Asia over who's borders are the proper borders between countries. After the last World War Poland was moved three hundred miles East, when are they going to move it back? Is there ever going to be a homeland for the Kurds? And who loses the land? Isreal is almost twice as large as its borders during King David are they going to give up some of their land?

It is easy at anyone time to see any party that lost a war as having been mistreated by the victor. Such is the nature of war fare. If you want to look at native people who realy got screwed by the American government look to the Cherokee in Georgia. They had gone native, had built there own towns and were still picked up and marched to Oklahoma.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

8:36 AM  
Blogger Nancy Lazaryan said...

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12:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nancy, the American government view of the land was that they bought all of the lands that the Indians now claim, from France as a part of the Louisiana Purchase. The fact that "Indians" lived on it to the government was meaningless. It was recognised by international treaties as belonging to France and Jefferson paid cash for it and it was then internationally recognised as belonging to the United States. There was no way they ever viewed them as Indian lands they bought them from France in 1803 and they weren't going to pay for them twice.

The Indian people had no international recognition. So, the US may have been making treaties with the Indian peoples but they never viewed them as having nation status. They hardly viewed them as human.

Ridding the land of Indians was viewed as a problem and an on going task that was interupted by the Civil War.

These last treaty the Lakota refer to is the lands that were viewed as the free Indian lands and were terminated by President Grant when in the government's view the Indians failed to maintain the peace. Of course from the Indian view it was because of the settlers moving on to the protected lands and the government not removing them.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

8:56 AM  

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