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TODAY, I heard some disturbing news from our Chuck Repke.
SOMEONE, called in a complaint to code enforcement stating Chuck has over crowding issues at his rental property.Chuck informed me this isn't true and the complaint in all likelihood was made because this type of complaint allows the code inspectors access to the interior of the home.
WHY, go after Chuck like this? IF, this was instigated by a property rights advocate I think it is low and dirty. It is starting to border on harassment.
I have had some horrible things happen to me in my life time and I SURELY wouldn't wish any misfortunes I've had on anyone else.
I surely do not feel ANY gratification in knowing Chuck is sharing some of the same kinds of troubles with code enforcement so many of you here complain about.
I don't believe Chuck will get a pass. If anything he will be made an example of so code enforcement can use the opportunity to say, "SEE WE ARE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD", no special treatment for anyone.
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Chuck
7:19 wait till you see who's going to get an interior inspection next.
If the city won't equal the playing field I will.Call me what you want and make fun of spelling.That just shows me what type of person you are.
Codes are codes.I don't know what you all are bitching about when you get inspected like the rest of us.Atleast you don't get thrown under the bus.And the Chief is lucky.He should have had a vacant catagory 2 with a code compliance.The power shut off with multiple code violations is grounds for code compliance.This has happened many times over with people with less power in the city.
Sorry folks its hard for me to feel sorry for these guys when they have to abide by some of the rules we do.
Tim Ciani
9:30 PM
Ok so let me start buy saying that I am Charles Jarvis Repke, the son of Chuck Repke, and what I say here I am saying as my own man, not through or on behalf of my father. I have no idea to what this post is supposed to about other then the right of landlords, and here on the net were the world is entitled to there own views you can say what ever you want. If it makes you feel better to vent here then go right ahead.
To the cowered who thought it would be funny, or a nice cheep shot to waist tax payer money to have the city fire department to come and see if there was a violation with the number of people living at this address let me talk to you. First off let me say that my father is out of your league buddy he wouldn’t waste his time with some low life to say this so I will. YOU ARE A COWERED, AND A BULLY!
Were do you get off pulling such a low, and classless shot? You have no shame of that I am sure. One of the first lessons my father taught me as a young boy was to never let a bully pick on you, cause they’re really nothing more then a cowered. That’s right I said it you’re a cowered hiding behind your computer. Well if your really looking to do something here is your chance. Since my father is a man of high integrity who would not sink to your level, I will. You want a fight with a Repke you can have one, any time you want there are dozens of gyms in this city pick one and you can step into a ring with a Repke, not the one you want but one none the less. See unlike this poor fool who can’t deal with life like a real man, I will give in and give you want you want a fight. As a man I have no problem settling things with words, real men don’t need to play games, if you want to fight you can just step into the ring. I know better then to think that this cowered will admit to his lack of testicular fortuned and come out and admit it to the readers of this posting, and that’s fine. However if you want to take shots at Repke I can see no reason why you would like to take a shot at one face to face, or are you that much of a cowered?
Lets face facts here people if you have a real problem with the system that your elected officials put in place then why don’t you try to do something about it other then wasting time and tax payer money and run for your self for office? My father has done nothing that any one else can do. Get involved with your own city if you don’t like things run for office, go to city meetings and voice your differences there. Its not like you can’t get involved in the political process, I’m 24 and have been on the CIB committee. So stop crying about how my father, Dave Thune, Norm Coleman, President Bush, Santa Clause, Harvey the Rabbit or who ever is picking on you and grow up.
And you think you are the only one that code enforcement has been sent out to by someone with a grudge? This is what people are complaining about and it's falling on deaf ears of officials in power who choose to do nothing about it. And the main stream media choose to ignore it because they are politically entrenched. But soon the Feds will step in and hopefully some city officials will be arrested and end up in jail, just where they belong.
From reading here I know Chuck is a good man. I don't agree with him and my wife and I are concerned about all the bad stories we read here. Hitting Chuck in the pocket book doesn't prove a thing.Tim, you were wronged and you seem very angry. Please don't take it out on good people like Chuck. Get some help.
Alex
Whats the big deal prove you don't have overcrowding and move on with your life.If they do an inside inspection show them your not a slumlord.Chuck you have a rental and a C of O is required.You need one, you have a rental right?St.Paul does them to make sure your occupants are safe.If you don't like the rule then ask your council person to change the city law.
Bob why does it have to be someone from here?The city has a complaint based system and it does regular sweeps.Chuck has always said he has to abide by the same codes as the property rights group.Well isn't this just that?He bashes the rest of us when we complain and now that it happens to him his son comes on and wants to fight.WTF!
Well Chuck welcome to the club,I think your getting the picture this is a flawed system.Don't you now believe racist neighbors, home owners,or city council mmembers that don't like rentals use this system as a tool to rid neighborhoods of landlords?
This is the system we have so get used to it.Doesn't it just make you want to get out of the business of being a landlord?
Larry Betz
I disagree with Chuck most of the time. My initial reaction to this is good....I am glad he is maybe going to get a dose of what the rest of the property owners have had to deal with. After thinking about it a bit, I realize that feeling is selfish because that is not what we as a group are about. To do this to Chuck is obviously an attack on him because of what he says here. Some chickenshit who can't beat Chuck with words has to do just what we all complain about the city doing.....he goes through the back door and gets someone else to build his self esteem by hurting the guy that this coward cannot compete with in words. There is so much more I would like to say, but it would just be a bunch of different ways of telling this jerk what a coward he is for doing this to Chuck. For us to be complaining as a group about the city tactics they use against people they don't like and then for one of us to try and exploit those same tactics against someone we disagree with is just terrible. I am sorry Chuck......I don't believe the majority of the people here are the kind of people that would do this and I don't think the majority of the people would want this person to be here if we knew their identity.
To Chucks kid:
We don't like fighters and other like thugs here. GET OUT AND STAY OUT!
Chucky Jr. ! you really don't know your dad very well.. Your Dad quote-
"I'll rip your head off and shit down your throat"
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Then we have Eric Mitchell. He threatened to beat up Bob and others here several times.
Do ALL you DFLers intimidate your opposition like this?
Bunch of THUGS.......
Larry Betz said;
Bob why does it have to be someone from here?
Reprinted from the topic post I said;
WHY, go after Chuck like this? IF, this was instigated by a property rights advocate I think it is low and dirty.
The key word here Larry is "IF".
My ACCERSIONS, are an educated guess.
I will not apologize for being a man of principle. I have to live with my morality. You can disagree with me and I won't HATE you for it.
Chuck goes the extra mile in support of the criminal inspections program.
I wouldn't snitch on him, but if someone did, it doesn't surprise me whatsoever.
Also, the inspectors may have fabricated a complaint for political reasons. Remember the inspections department is a BIG encourager of snitching.
To Repke son
While I feel sorry that someone is trying to make trouble for your dad, I feel nothing for you. Your an asshole to come here and cry up a storm cause someone's picking on your dad. Do you have any idea how many other children have had their hearts ripped out because thier parents lost thier home at the hands of agressive lying code enforcement officials? Your dad had consistently stuck up and tried to minimize the corruption machine in this city that goes fater people based on behavior complaints and then trumps up housing code violations and condemns the property so they can move the occupant anywhere else and bankrupt the property owner, thus guaranteeing that the owner will not rent again to the lower class of people who cause these problems. Not only does the city victimize the owner, they violate the civil rights of the occupants if they happen to be renters because what they cannot do with the police legally, they do through the back door illegaly with the code inspections department to do an "end run" around all the rights and due process that occupant may have so they can make them homeless and proclaim to the neighborhood how they have cleaned it up when in fact they have just moved the problem to another neighborhood so they can start their illegal scheme all over again. Your dad stuck has stuck up for this behavior from city officials, and now hw may become a victim of it. How ironic.....but wait.....if his property is up to snuff, what's the harm?
The world has become a snitch culture, get used to it! It is learned behavior...meaning it is the way people have been taught to act, The city is promoting snitching.
I DID NOT TURN CHUCK IN!!!!I never have and never will.There are bigger fish to fry!!
Anonymous complaints and sweeps are wrong and a change is needed.Chuck you can be the head of the property rights group and get change.
You should have to give your name and number and if the complaint is false then you should be arrested for giving a false report.Just like giving a false police report.
Then will see this system for what it is.
Tim Ciani
I looked on St.Pauls web site and found you were scheduled for a renewal on your C of O on 3-7-07 Chuck.
Its really hard to feel for somebody who has to go through the same thing we do.It sucks chuck doesn't it.I think might agree with us now that this system has to go.
Chuck Sr. and Chuck Jr. just think if you had 15 plus rentals and it was your full or part time business and the city targeted all your properties.
Larry Betz
These complaints are generated by city personel all the time and made to look like citizen complaints. I think there's just as good of a chance that some city employee made this complaint as a private citizen. I also agree with the previous gentlemans position that you should have to give your name when you make a complaint. After having read here for some time now, I find it puzzling that people can call up anonymously about anyone they don't like or have a dispute with and have the city use the force of law to come barging into your house to charge you with code violations and yet there is no shortage of people here who think no credibility at all should be given to anonymous posters who try and expose these questionable practices. These housing inspectors seem to have powers not even the police have in their toolkit. Why the double standard?
Say there Chuck Jr......I don't remember you giving your address. Would you mind?
City leaders have everyone snitching on everyone. If you call the cops for help, they snitch you out for code violations. So will the dog catcher. If you have a city or county social worker over to help you and they see a violation, they call it in to the city. Even the schoool personel ahve been asked by the city to report violations. It wouldn't suprise me a bit if the city had the utility meter readers making notes and calling violations. Don't know if it is still happening , but they even had the firemen looking for violations in peoples yards and alleys and calling it in. We ae nothing but a snitch city.
Charlie company to BIG FOAM----are you there Dahn?------this is about the time you should come and wreck it for everyopne and chase them away so you can be here by yourself with Sharon------------come on-------over.
Wow, sure must be rough to be my kid huh?
Here's the deal folks. Someone from this or some other list called in a complaint. The issue was "over crowding" abandoned truck and trailers.
There is no over crowding, that was the clue to this. There is no one who lives near by who would have had any thoughts that there were groups of people living in the house. Its a quiet place. There are no problems.
But, someone who knows about code enforsement made that complaint to get an inspector in the building. The property is an owner occupied duplex so I don't have the same C of O's that other landlords do. So, someone who has an issue with me wanted me to be inspected. So, they did. My son let them in the house. It wasn't until I looked it up on the system that I told my son that it was pretty cleat that some ass hole from one of these lists called it in. That the report was over crowding.
So, the inspector went through my house, there was nothing wrong with it no over crowding. But, the licensed and insured truck has to be moved because the young woman upstairs volunteered to the inspector that the engine was blown.
So, once again. You jerks miss me and hurt another innocent victom.
Its just sad. And Nancy you want to know what a Nazi looks like? Take a long look in the mirror. I have never in 35 years of community work ever done anything to hurt someone else. I have tried to make this town a better place to live. You are right I believe that people should get a fair hearing and not be considered guilty on an accusation. You are the one attacking public servants. Trying to create fear in those who try and serve. You believe in the bullying tactics not me.
So, hit me again. Hit my family and friends. Because someone has to stand up to your kind. We can not let those who live for vengence gain the power to hurt others.
And, Tim C what a joke! We get a post from a pretend person saying he isn't the coward that did it. Does anyone else see how sad these people are?
So, again, I don't have any problem with the inspector or being inspected the issue is that you are the very ones who abuse the system and then complain about the abuse...
Just My Opinion Not Those Of My Employers Past Present Or Future
Chuck Repke
Chuck,
You say, "And Nancy you want to know what a Nazi looks like? Take a long look in the mirror."
Where did that comment come from?
It is you, Chuck, that has repeatedly supported the illegal, warrantless searches of people's homes.
You have "no problem" that the City conducted an illegal search of the home that your son inhabits. Wow, what a father, teaching your children to just "roll over".
You accuse me of "bullying tactics" when I insist that the law be applied to the people that we employ.
You have no problem that the "code inforcement" violates our constitutionally secured rights.
The St. Paul Code says that the inspectors have the authority to enter ANY building in the City...the warrant is OPTIONAL.
I DID NOT send the inspectors to your son's home...But, my goodness, when are you going to wake up and see that an illegal search was done against you and your family.
Nancy Lazaryan
No, Nancy you are the one who assaults public employees in their office while they flee from you. You are the one who appears to be just fine making false accusations and trying to damage people's reputations. You appear to support this false report on my property for the crime of standing up to you and your kind of people that have so little respect for your fellow citizens. You appear to view the constitution as your personal toilet paper.
And, what does this mean...?
"You have "no problem" that the City conducted an illegal search of the home that your son inhabits."
In talking to the folks downtown, that was the other accusation that wasn't written down, that I don't live there. Are you following me around to determine where I sleep at night you little Nazi Nancy? Because somebody is and is turning me into the City for it.
Sick, sick people here following around someone like me, who's only crime is standing up publicly to Nazi Nancy and Pretend Tim.
Look folks, I have never run for office I didn't ask to be a public target. But I will take it any day to make sure these kind of cowards and criminals are stood up to.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
And once again I ask you Chuck.....what would you have thought had the inspector been a rupublican or some other jerk with an agenda and came into your house and lied about violations and then required a $50,000.00 code compliance because the city has determined that you have too many vioaltions (most of which were made up) and then tells you that you cannot live in the property until the new codes are in place?
They lie Chuck......get it? Maybe not all the time and maybe not all inspectors, but they do lie and they are out to get some people for reasons that have nothing to do with code violaations. It is your city buddies who are the bullies. You are doing things to hurt people Chuck.....your not making things better for anyone. You complain about another innocent victim being hurt, but she's your innocent victim. How many other innocent victims have lost their home and been kicked to the street in the cold, and you're complaining about having to move a truck? When you say you want people to have a fair hearing, why do you always run down the landlords who had to go to a Federal Court to get a fair hearing because the city ofSt Paul has the Ramsey County Court system rigged to benifet them and them alone? You always say you know these landlords and you go on to tell us all what bad people they are when you know none of them or anything about any of their properties other than what your liar city buddies tell you. City employees are being attacked, and the reason is becasue they are acting illegally and with imopunity, and when this thing is over I believe some of them will be in jail. You help no one with your BS Chuck. All you do is try to grease the gears for the corruption machine to keep chewing people up and spitting them out with your constant defense of the citys illegal practices.
Chuck relax big dog.The city hasn't closed your file yet so that leads me to believe your putting spin on your rental as being spotless.
You say that an innocent person(your tenant)was hurt.What do you mean?When the city comes in and requires a code compliance or nails a house with code violations who do you think gets hurt?The tenant and the owner.The car was abandoned and inoperable.Isn't that a code violation?
And I'm not a chicken shit and I truely didn't call this in.But keep harrassing me and I can use code like the city uses code to make your life tough.
Tim Ciani
Chuck,
YOU said that the duplex was occupied by your son. Your son said that he is 24 years old...I ASSUMED that your 24 year old son does not live WITH you.
You state: "Are you following me around to determine where I sleep at night you little Nazi Nancy? Because somebody is and is turning me into the City for it."
I am NOT following you around.
And why should you be bothered if someone is following you around to determine if you are illegally homesteading a property? ...unless you ARE illegally homesteading a property.
Oh, I get it, its okay for the City to violate other people's constitutionally secured rights...but it annoys you.
I have never run for public office, and I believe the "landlords" whose rights were violated never ran for public office, but we ARE standing up for ALL of our rights...even yours, Chuck.
Nancy Lazaryan
Bob got threatened when he crossed the line with certain language that is hateful and inciting. We have resolved that long ago. He didn't know me and I didn't know his intent. He meant well.
Sometimes, men get tired of cowards insulting their character, their work, their family and their beleifs from the cover of the internet, or a badge, or their money and influence. For men, it tough to fight an opponent who won't show themselves. That's what terrorist do. They hide behind others, or they just hide and strike.
Sometimes men get sick of that and the first feeling of justification is to strike out.
Chuck, Chuck jr, Myself, Martin, George and others have written on here over the last few months using our real names ready to stand behind what we say and beleive. Most of those who attack us, do so like terrorist cowards and what they did to Chuck is further proof. So, in the face of wrongdoing, real men step up and call the cowards out.
I'm with the Repkes. You got three on your hands.
Eric
You know Nancy, you've got a lot of nerve. You think the law belongs to you and no one else. Guess what, you don't give up your rights when you work for the government- unless you really give them up (military, foriegn service, etc).
You have harassed and assaulted public employees just because they didn't jump when you said jump. Technically Frau Lazeryan, you don't live in the city and they don't work for you.
I'm sure you'll accuse the whole system of being corrput when you have to answer to the charges. Wait, you already do. Hope you don't get any of the judges you named as corrupt.
Anonymous at 11:15,
The law belongs to me...and to the other Citizens.
As far as the "rights of government employees" you really should do some research so that you understand that government employment is "privileged employment" and subject to "unemployment" for misconduct by the "privileged employee"...M.S. Chap. 13 specifically states that by violating Chap 13 the person looses their employment.
Try reading the law, instead of just spouting off what you think you know.
Techically, I am a state Citizen, and pursuant to M.S. Chap. 13, the people that handle OUR public data DO work for EVERY state Citizen.
My, what a group. Does anyone understand the basics?
Nancy Lazaryan
Explained like a true Nazi.
Some people-citizens, are more equal than others.
Where does it gives you the right to assault them?
You must envision yourself as an aristocrat who can treat the servants like crap. They are there to serve, not to be servants.
I wonder how many stress related deaths are caused by the indimidating tactics of the inspectors.
Chuck, how can you defend that? What kind of example are you leaving for your son. Don't you care?
Once again, I see an effort to twist the truth. The Nazi enforcement department is sick and needs to be held accountable for their actions.
This is interesting.
The post began concerning Chuck being "snitched" on for possible code violations.
I stated
"Yes, it is abhorable if someone called in a tip against Chuck to the Nazi St. Paul inspections department.
But, my guess is there was no tip, just the Nazis "doing their thing"."
Because I assert that certain government employees are violating our constitution...and need to be accountable to OUR laws,
I'm the "Nazi".
What an asinine argument.
Chuck's rights were violated, and he doesn't seem to care, other than someone "snitched" on him.
I do care, and everyone else should care.
Just because Chuck is appears to be dribbling fool that does not understand "illegal search and seizure",doesn't mean he he loses his constitutioally secured rights.
Nancy Lazaryan
Just because Nancy can't spell "looses" and "constitutionally" correctly, doesn't mean her point is invalid.
I think those employees do work for Nancy as long as she lives anywhere in the State of Minnesota. You see, the city of St Paul gets LGA money from the legislature. You know what that is right Chuck? The money that Mayor Coleman is always complaining about it not being enough? Sound familiar? That money comes from the taxpayers of the State of Minnesota......including Nancy, so in all reality they are working for her because her money is coming here to pay for part of the city government.
Eric said:
Sometimes, men get tired of cowards insulting their character, their work, their family and their beleifs from the cover of the internet, or a badge, or their money and influence. For men, it tough to fight an opponent who won't show themselves. That's what terrorist do. They hide behind others, or they just hide and strike.
I say:
You just explained the cities inspection process.The city has attacked landlords as if they were terrorist.We too Eric have been pissed and found the only way to fight back is with lawsuits.So respect us for that and let us rant and rave and see what the courts decide.we have been pissed off for many years about this inspection process that Chuck just got caught up in.
Merry Christmas to all!!
Hi All,
So young Repke is full of piss and vinegar! I was too at his age, and I still am some. :-) Let's not hold that against him.
I can see my son re-acting the same way to defend me.
I hope you will continue to express yourself here Chuck Jr.. It's no cake walk here and it takes a guy like your Dad and Eric Mitchell to tough it out.Your opinion is appreciated by me and I am sure some silent lurkers.
One more thing. Eric Mitchell and I have come to terms with our disagreement. It's been over a year, can we leave it in the past and quit bringing it up?
I don't agree with SOME of Eric's positions, however, I have come to like him.
Can we all agree to disagree and at least get along?
This is not about hiding and striking or being trerrorists Eric, it's about exposing corruption practices and civil rights violations within the city government. When do you remember anytime in our lives where someone has stepped froward to expose corruption and they stepped right up with their name? It's always done anonymously because of the thrat and retaliation factor. Surely you have to be smart enough to know that much.
You guys just don't get it.These inspections are tageted to get the rentals and thugs out of our neighborhoods.Its a shame that Chuck has been caught up in something designed for a totally different reason.Its not for the elites and homeowners that are products of society.
Oh well if the city pays a couple thousand dollars on some lawsuits,its all worth it!
George K.
Apparently George, you think you are better than everyone else. Must work for the City.
Chuck is all right, and this shouldn't have happened to him. His only problem is that he associates with known dipshits.
Listen here folks I don't use police services,I don't cause crime,I don't sell drugs,I don't collect SSI,Section 8 and so on.
Renters are the ones draining this City.We need to limit or get rid of them and the City will be better for it.I'm sorry if I sound harsh.I say it the way it is.
We've attracted these less disirables here with all the programs and it wa a mistake.We just can't load them up on a bus and send them back.we must take their housing away and then they'll go bye bye.
George K.
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Bill Dahn 1/2 polish 1/2 dipshit.
Sharon Anderson half nuts and thats it!!
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But George you do use the Police service you freeloading, self serving, status seeking piker. Your nothing more than a human sponge when it comes to consuming services. The Police are busy day and night running themselves ragged protecting you from these renters you find so undesirable. Why don't you move out of town so the Police can have a lighter work load?
George at least stays on point and he is not trying to steal attention for his own selfish agenda like Dahn does. Bill Dahn doesn't give a shit about anything or anyone here or the cause they are fighting. He cares about himself and his threats to derail what people here are trying to evbery time he gets spanked is the proof of it. He's helping the city and he's too stupid to even know it. Who wants him around other than you Nancy?
Say George....I'm kinda wondering....ummm.....I won't beat around the bush, I'll get right to the point.......could we get your address please?
Thanks in advance
George thinks he is a bove the law, you get his address I will gaurentee you that there is violation after violation. I know who he is and am very tempted to provide the address!
Clue Number 1:
Think law enforcement and you will find him.
I don't like what you are suggesting 9:17.
Bob and other people here don't like it either.
I think George K. has a loose screw, but, he does not deserve to be harrassed, cop or not.
Then he can continue to be above the law, while the average citizen here in St.Paul cannot live a life of security in the privacy of their own home while some can because of their influences.
I'm honest the way I feel.Many tenants are bottom feeders and bring down values in neighborhoods.Use excessive city services.Tell me where I'm wrong.Its my right to support hard nosed tactics.
Like me or not my point is clear.
George K.
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That'a always the deal with these liberala, they always wanna bet everything you believe in for everything they believe in and if you ever question it or heaven frobod try to sue for what are your rights, they go nuts trying to disparage you.
People in enforcement can get a very distorted and strange outlook. At least in normal times, they are only called in for extreme situations, and then look deeply at a very narrow range of things.
It can also attract troubled and unbalanced people - For example, the BTK Killer was a code-compliance inspector.
In the present unhealthy conditions, I can only guess as to what sess-pool mentality they are attracting.
They are attracting people with low self esteem that achieve their self worth and their importance to others in life by having control and power over someone else. Not all the inspectors are this way though, there are a few of them that are decent people. It's too bad they get stained with the actions of the bad ones.
As I was out shopping and running in and out of different stores trying to brave the weather, I couldn't help but wonder what I would do if I were the vicitm of some of these housing inspectors who throw people out into the cold. I couldn't help but wonder how some of the people here cane even try to defend the city's actions regarding the poor. I am so glad I don't live in St Paul.
10:44
AMEN!
George K.:
It is a real delight to read your comments. Your intolerance of struggling people is particularly enlightening. Please write often, and have your friends contribute as well. Also give that Nancy L. (and us) a piece of your mind.
You are putting your basic arrogant attitude on display for all of us to see. It makes it easy to see how these attidudes transform into Nazi tactics.
Everyone else knows how we are descended from a long line of struggling people. Our country was also formed in struggle. We owe them all an enormous debt of gratitude, that we can never repay. By your contempt for struggling people, you bastardize yourself - unless of course your family tree is occupied by orangatangs, which is a strong possibility.
Oh, and George, if you are working in law enforcement, please quit immediately, because your attitudes make you unfit for duty.
I happen to agree with George and I feel quite confident that amny others do also. We are changing this city wether you guys like it or not and the elections show it. You guys on on the outside looking in and we are keeping you there. Some people just don't deserve a second chance and as long as you find these poor people so charming, perhaps they should move in with you. We want them out of the city and our city council takes marching orders from those that speak. We have spoken, loud and clear. Please leave the city and take your trashy renters with you. Merry Christmas to all.
Wow, Bob I'm sure you can see clear as a bell who is posting some this anonymous dribble. His writing style is obvious, though the cussing has been toned down.
A couple of days ago 9:21 said that -"When do you remember anytime in our lives where someone has stepped froward to expose corruption and they stepped right up with their name? It's always done anonymously because of the thrat and retaliation factor. Surely you have to be smart enough to know that much."-
This is so wrong and untrue I don't where to begin. How about with the signers of the Declaration of Independence? That was clear treason against the crown. Or the Congress of the 1840's to the 1860's over the issue of slavery. The Civil Rights Movement itself is full of names of brave individuals who stood up and said no more. Over the last ten years we've even seen whistle blowers bring down billion dollar corrupt corporations. Some of them made the cover of Time magazine.
Our country and state and even city has been changed for the better by individuals who stood up and said no more. They let the world know who they were. Terrorist groups like the KKK and others have hid in anonymity and acted as cowards.
You support the lawsuit? Let your name be known and stand up for what you beleive- somebody else did the hard part for you and filed the suit (using their name).
I don't support the landlords lawsuit. No big surprise there. I support fair enforcement and people's right to live in a decent place meeting minimum standards. Unfortunatly I see some supporting that particular suit, own property that is not up to minimum standards.
George, you're a bigger problem than the landlords. Bigotry and ignorance is no way to wind down your life. You got time to change for the better.
Merry Christmas.
Eric
Retaliation is a way of life in St. Paul. If you have no way to protect yourself from the actions of the City, you would be a fool to expose your identity. Working behind the scenes anonymously can be quite effective.
Mery Xmas Repke. I have been incognito for a bit , but I am out now. I seem to have missed the elections and it looks as though your buddies pulled it off again, so I guess we are stuck with you for another 4 years. Your still washed up Repke.....there's another election coming.
George and Anonomymous 1:06 show the heart of the problem - arrogance.
If Mary and Joseph came to St. Paul this Christmas Eve, they would find no room at the inn. And the stables would have a blue condemned sign, with Magner's backhoe nearby.
St. Paul has become God forsaken.
Eric and all Merry Christmas.Eric if you can't see whats going on thats good.The city, with me backing it 100% are cleaning this city out with code enforcement.We don't like the behavior that comes with low income tenants.Period end of story.And its a sad thing to say that most low income tenants are black.So if we the city are guilty for targeting low income tenants and landlords in the name of code enforcement,oh well.
I truely don't like living next to thugs.Do you?Like my council memeber Bostrom said,"I'd rather see these vacant homes empty."Meaning then filled with rentals and thugs.
You property rights guys are catching on but theres no way to change us now.People like Eric don't even understand whats going on.
Georg K.
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What's so funny is that George, Chuck, Eric and all the others who come here and bad mouth people because they are trying to expose this BS could get the smae results that George is so in favor of by just demanding that the Police arrest these bad renters and charge them with the crimes they are alleged to commit against the neighborhoods. Anyone ever wonder why these people would prefer civil rights violations of law biding people rather them criminal prosecutions of the law breakers?
Nancy,
For the 1000th time. I can't make a judgement on individual cases. I don't find it hard to believe or a stretch that we have less than equal enforcement and maybe some abuse. Same thing happens with cops, corporate auditors and non-profit activism.
In saying the above, its doesn't make it a conscience contrived conspiracy by "the city".
I am involved with the East Side and its neighborhoods as well as its representation. I was and am a big supporter of Dan Bostrom (who would reject George's assesment of his words). Anyone who lives here will tell you we have a problem with the absentee slumlords. Dan and his neighbors throughout the East Side supported tougher legislation on landlords of single family and duplexes.
In my opinion, the suit by the landlords is playing off of the individual wrongs. They have twisted real concerns into a conspiracy focused on poor people with them as the pawns. Its the ultimate shell game happening live.
I come here and read not only what the Georges of the world have to say but, the dying slumlords who 'anonymously' toss out propaganda to keep the fires stoked.
They're so good that they've already convinced enough of you that judges are corrupt in general and work close with the county and city enforcement arms to force outcomes. When they loose, it will be because the whole system is corrupt and they never had a chance.
You heard it here first.
Eric
Hey Eric I have some news for you. The reason "they" have convinced us that the city has the courts rigged is because there is not only evidence that supports this belief, but also sworn testimony from some of the people involved that city officials had meetings with the court and the court agreed to rig the court in favor of the city.
You talk a lot about the absentee landlords and the problems they make, but I am wondering why I never hear you talk about the bad tenants who destroy property faster than it can be repaired. I also wonder why I never hear you talk about how the renters use the code enforcement mechanism as a litigation tool that they can benifet from. Why is that Eric? How come it's just the landlords you are so intent on bashing?
I'll make the exception and speak to a coward crouching behind anonymity(12:39). Try not to address me in the future if you're not man enough to use your name.
When it comes to tenants and landlords, tenents are usually the ones without a voice.
Bad tenants can be arrested and kicked out. Tenants can be screened and removed. When landlords rent to irresponsible tenants, we pick up the cost with the calls to the police and etc.
Landlords have options starting with the main one of being a landlord. Renting property is privledge like any other business in St Paul and is subject to regulations, ordinances and state and federal law. This is known before they went into business. The only thing to complain about is unfair enforcement. That's an individual thing. Tenants can't do that.
You have a filed a suit speaking for an entire group and where you'll loose is that 98% of the members in that group have the exact opposite experience that you claim.
If the evidence was a obvious as you put it, the suit would have been filed differently, there would some kind of kindling of proof.
There isn't. So, fix your crap shack up, and stop wasting our money. You have lumped in with people who may have legitimate claims as individuals and made a mockery of their loss by suing under the guise of racial discrimination.
You're pathetic- and weak.
Eric
George is only too typical of the mind set running the city. They bully people around and use their influence that results in the gestapo enfrocement.
I have never been a landlord and have never before gone out of my way to support them (but have liked some of the landlords I know personally). I will take the landlords any day to George and the other Gorgeous Georges on the City Council and elsewhere around the city.
eric,
I just to inform you that you can
not get a tenant arrest. And If try to kick them out of the place that they stay at. You can not
unless they are behind in rent for
two or three months. The reason is
minn. state law. The law is on the tenant side. Beside they can get legal Aid to help them to stay there.
You need to check out the law. And go to housing court.
I am strong DFL member. I lived in
ward 1 for 10 years. I know Andy D., Sandy P. ,Ellen A., Debbie M,
Jerry b., And all other party big shots.
They are the ones that changes all the laws for the tenants. In the early 1990's .
I have sat at meeting starting in1995-2002. On the DFL plannings and the city plans on getting some landlord out of the business and
change. How the landlord do the business in St.Paul.
If you are a strong DFL member you
know what I am talking about.
The only reason why I was there because I lived next to all my properties. And I put money into my properties and Built two homes
in frogtown. Too show that I wanting to be good landlord.
The law is one side for tenants. And code enforcement is joke.
They pick on one or two landlord .
Until they get out of business or
cause them to give up. Then they go
to set of landlords.
Just like how they kick out most of the low income tenants out of
St.Paul.
Now all taxepayer will pay for it.
And that is why you cann't give away our Properties.
Just think If you have blue signs in the homes. Who isgoing to pay taxes. In 2007, they are short by 29,000 for property taxes. That is 29,000 homes that did not pay taxes. Or that was not collect.
That is about 29,000.00 X 3,500.00
= $101500000.00. So you tell me
Who is going to pay that.
Kick out the landlords and low income people. You will get more
and more tax increase.
Hey that is a real good deal for taxprayers in the city of St.Paul.
Leslie K. Lucht
Actually most vacant properties are owned by banks and they pay their property taxes.
Most properties out there that are vacant had large mortgages to banks. They are going to protect their investment and not lose the properties to the tax man. They aren't that stupid.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Just leave it to Eric and the resat of his merry band of disbelievers to shun the truth. They like living in denial you see because that is what benifets them. My interest will rise considerably when judgement day finally arrives and they have to start writing out the checks for higher property taxes or consider cutting some of their favorite programs. Just let em keep on talking boys, every time they open their mouths they just dig a deeper hole for them to explain their way out of when all this crap comes to an end.
Maybe they are that stupid Chuck. Why would they pay their tax to protect their investment when the city is working overtime trying to tear these investments down? If there's 29,000 people who have not paid the property tax for the year, I doubt if it's the people who are living in their homes as they have an interest to protect also.
More people are talking about that (Morton St.) house.
Thanks to Repke and Eric.
chuck,
You so what right.
Its the bank about two or three years. To take a house. In the mean while owner does no pay the taxes on the property.
Then the bank work out deal on the taxes. The more house that have blue sign. Less money for city and state. For about three years.
When the county take house for property taxes. Its about year
then another year for them to sell
it.
With so, many behind in taxes and so, many that needs to be fix up.
Who is going buy any of the properties. More and more shortfalls for the city and the state.
How do they fix the problem. By raise taxes.
You do not get it. The landlords
pay more taxes than the home owner.
That is the first shortfalls.
Now people stop paying taxes. that is second shortfalls.
And no one is buying homes now.
That is third shortfalls.
So, everyone is behind the eight ball now.
I about fifty homer owner wrote letter to the city to stop funding nonprofits for a period of four years.
That increase with less money for the city budget.
People are real piss about the taxes increase and all the see is more increase down the road.
Leslie K. Lucht
Leslie,
The low-income people have not been driven out of saint paul. They now have options aside from shitty properties. Not saying that yours are such. Just that there has been a lot of newer developments for low income people as well as they explosion of home ownership for low income people over the last 12 years- minus the last three.
As Chuck said, most of those homes are owned by the banks and they certainly pay the property taxes on time with them. I get your point, who wants to invest on the same block with 'blue tagged' houses?
As far as the DFL goes, there is no planning committee for the DFL. I'm an Exec. Officer with city dfl party and can only wish that there was the connection with the elected officials after they're endorse that you seem to think. I spent several years working in elections for the DFL state party too. The scenario that you and others keep presenting simply does not exist. At no level does the party have control over the elected officials. Around 1966, public officials discovered that they could work directly with the people and build their own constituency without much help from the party. Some may find the party reliable get elected but, when it comes to governing, rare are the times you'll find the party influencing on policy. Very rare.
Eric
You also will never find the "Party" coming out against the corruption that their "chosen ones" perpetrate against the constituients either do you Eric? That's cause they support it.
I can't believe Eric said this:
The low-income people have not been driven out of saint paul. They now have options aside from shitty properties. Not saying that yours are such. Just that there has been a lot of newer developments for low income people as well as they explosion of home ownership for low income people over the last 12 years- minus the last three.
For one I disagree the more blue tags the less tenant criminals in my neighborhood.Yeah lets move these low income people into other neighborhoods and well kept houses so they can tear the piss out of it!Who the hell do you think is causing crime,tearing screens,punching holes in walls,busting windows,throwing trash on the ground,etc.?The landlord right?Thats the only thing I'll give landlords credit for,but getting rid of them will get rid of the rats.And low income home ownership=Forclosure Eric.Its called Sub-prime lending.
I'm just glad we have guys looking out for the little guys out here like Eric.Clueless to say the least.Boarded up houses is cleaning the low income tenants out of neighborhoods that are the problem causers.
George K.
Good point George.
Steven
Good point George.
Steven
12:10
You don't use your name so apparently you don't have one. That your logic.
Actually, the Democrats have more corruption probes (and convictions) going on than the previous gang who were in charge. In less than a year Democrats have uncovered corrpution in Iraq contracts, health care for our vets, The US Attorney General's Office as well as the Justice Department, the Senate, the House, 9/11 payments, Katrina contracts and relocation, Insurance company denying legit claims for most people, sub-prime lending abuse and numerous campaign funding violations.
So you are wrong on them not caring about corruption. It hasn't been proven that your claim is a result of a corrupt government conspiring to systematically dicriminate.
George- you're still an idiot and now you're two days older since it was last established.
Eric
Who do you define as "low income" Eric? The landlords you are so proud of getting rid of who rent shitty properties according to you are the landlords who rent to the lowest economic class in the city......the people making less than $20,000.00 a year, with a large percentage of them being welfare people.
Tell me how many of these new developments you speak of are available to this class of people. You can't because there are none. The affordable housing you speak of was designed for people making upwards of $40,000.00 a year, and most of those places that are currently being rented are only being rented because they cannot sell them. You are a Bullshitter Eric and you know it.
If you are not part of the soloution Eric, then you are part of the problem. When you going to stop sticking up for the corruption that continues in St Paul?
11:59
286,000 people in St Paul.
1% would be 2,860 people.
1/10th of 1% wouild be 286 people.
1/10th of that would be 28(including one pregnant woman), which is twice the number of people who are with your conspiracy lawsuit.
In all of this time there has been no proof or anything to fall in your direction. Nothing. The elections that you on here predicted would uprise the citizens and throw everyone out, did no such thing. Heck, our Mayor even got one of his aides elected over one of his adversaries.
I asked if these are discriminatory practices with the result of uprooting minority renters, why haven't someone taken this to the Feds? I even gave names, numbers and recent articles where the Feds have come down on other cities for that.
None of you freedom fighters took it on. Why? Because you know you have no case and/or, its not about discrimination but, about money. And if you sue and win, who gets the money? The minorities who you say were wronged you based you suit on? No. The landlords. As in politics, follow the money and you'll find the truth.
So, why should I believe what one-tenth of one-tenth of one percent say is the truth, when 99.99% say other wise? Especially when facts say otherwise.
Where were you landlords when tenants were complaining about the conditions they had to live in? How about when neighbors complained about your property being eyesores and a devaluing factor?
I'm sure there were more than 12 of those. Some of the plantiffs have 12 complaints against them and their property in one year.
The facts and numbers don't line up with the plantiffs in the conspiracy suit.
Why don't you use a name?
Eric
Are you crazy Eric? Why shouldn't the landlords get the money? It was the landlords who had their business destroyed. You seem to think that those landlords owe the tenants something, when in reality it is the city who owes them and the city will probably wind up paying them off too. When these lawsuits are done, it would not suprise me a bit for the very same Attorneys to round up all the tenants and take a 2nd run at the city coffers. About that time you'll still be saying where's the proof. Hell Eric, you're like that old bag standing at the Wendys counter asking "where's the beef." You wouldn't know it if it bit you in the ankle.
No proof? Where have you been my man? The citys own people have ratted them out, what more proof do you need?
I have thought about this for a while and now my response. Chuck you gave them the reaction they were looking for. All the other side wanted you to feel was what we all are feeling. I do not agree with what was done to you or any of the landlords. The crap that goes on by the city is really something.
Chuck what the landlord group was trying to do was let you and others know that what is good for one is good for all. I believe the system is broken and needs fixing. Turning in your neighbors without having to put their name on the complaint is wrong. The crap Lantry has pulled and she is supposed to be Christian (St. Agness H. S., class of 1979).
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