SAINT PAUL/ City housing code policy's has disparate impact on minorities!
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Well Chuck just hop on in here and tell us some more about these code violations and how the city does not ever do anything that's wrong. How about you Eric? Lets hear some more about that Steinhauser and his violations.
Hi All,
I and others were crying tears of joy when we heard this news. It has been a long emotional ordeal for many of us.
There isn't a jury in the entire world who could listen to this story and not favor the plaintiffs!
It is starting to appear this law suit will cost the tax payers of Saint Paul dearly! You good DFLers can thank the incompetent leadership you have been voting in for years for this mess.
DFL leadership in the city of Saint Paul have been warned repeatedly for years the housing code policies they have adopted would result in lawsuits that have the potential to put the city at great financial risk.
I will be at the TRIAL everyday for as long as it last. And I will come here daily and give everyone a report.
May God bless ALL the plaintiffs and their attorneys who are seeking justice against this rouge entity in the city of Saint Paul!
Finally there were people with the guts enough to step up to the plate and take the city to task for their evil doings. Hats off to all of you!
I am elated at this news. It's unfortunate that there were no sanctions for spoilation of evidence as it seemed like this issue would have had a magor affect upon a Jury and Punative damages claims.
Also, my research On Magistrate Joan Erickson shows somewhat of a history of ruling on behalf of Government entities.
I am disappointed that virtually all the claims of corruption that were alleged, were dismissed .
I just seem to think that the 8th Circut is compramising here to protect alot of people, as this whole case and the defendant participants in my belief have conspired to fullfil it's mafia type policies upon the landlords and citizens of St.Paul.
I to will want to go to this trial but I am thinking there is going to be a settlement here where again, the city admits no wrong doing.
Jeff Matiatos
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"Also, my research On Magistrate Joan Erickson shows somewhat of a history of ruling on behalf of Government entities"
OTOH, lots of suits against government are half-assed and deserve to get tossed.
Is ours good enough? Damn sure hope so.
This so so great.
Congratulations. The jury trial is going to be GREAT!
About time this case has been recognized as having an impact on minorities. Although I really feel it has had an impact on a lot more individuals than just minorities.
I am assuming if Mr.Repke posts his remarks here he will do his typical style of writing by twisting things withh a focus on the areas of the case that were not overturned.
I agree with Bob, I can not imagine a jury of our society not finding in favor of the plaintiffs!
Congratulations Plaintiffs you all deserved this news today!!!
Also, Magistrate Erickson has had numerous orders and rulings reversed in cases involving Government entities.
There are no perfect judges and whether by ignorance, bias, abuses of discretion, where cases are dismissed, we hope our appellate systym will straighten things out.
If the city pleads on their hands and knees for the plaintiffs to settle, with the city not admitting any wrong doing, that settlement should inculde a comprehensive re structuring of how code enforcement enforces it's policies and there should be a house cleaning and some resignations.
Jeff Matiatos
I don't think the city has the money it would take to settle this lawsuit.
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Bet the farm Dawkins isn't laughing anymore Repkeeeee!
If you are new here and want to learn more about these lawsuits, go to the front page of the town hall, under the "Scales of Justice" you will find links for more information.
The city of Saint Paul has condemned homes throwing women and children out onto the street with no place to go. Elderly and handicap citizens have been condemned to the streets with no place to go. A little girl was raped in a shelter after the city threw her and her family out of their home. All this malicious behavior by city officials to rid our neighborhoods of citizens deemed less than desirable. Deemed less than desirable by citizens who are motivated by fear and bigotry.
Citizens have lost their homes and livelihoods to the city over rouge code compliance issues.
I provide housing to low income black tenants I can relate to landlord's in this lawsuit.
Can I start a lawsuit and what can I expect to pay Shoemaker or Engel for cost?
Shoemaker and Engel made some pretty critical errors here so I think they were fortunate enough to get this far.
It's great the landlords have the courage to stand up to this sleaze. Many thanks!
The city has had more than it's share of lower income tenants since the Flight to the Suburbs. The decision to take a heavy duty drug approach from the police Force Unit and turn it into major city policy to force lowerer income people out has got to be the stupidest short -term decision ever made. Now the city will have to pay the price.
They are going to have to have 5X as many parking enforcement cars to pay for this.
Where do I sign up for jury duty?
Best wishes to the landlords. You deserve all the good things that will be coming your way, and a whole lot more.
Bob G.
You can be assured Eric right now is mulling over this stuff and preparing a statement here that I am sure will focus on all the faults and missteps of the plaintiffs attorneys.
No difference though because the decision in this order of the 8th Circiut remanding for trial casts a dark black shadow upon the entire cast of the city hall bafoons and roght on up to the mayor and city council as well as code enforcement.
I understand the anguish some of you are feeling. I'm sorry I had to delete some derogatory comments. The derogatory comments may make some of you feel good getting it off your chest, but they serve no purpose in our fight.
Please don't let this stop you from making a productive comment your input is valued.
Thank you!
nice to hear from you nancy
jeff last year you said the landlords didn't have case
Care to point that out Ralph ?
Most here know which side of the line I'am on so go ahead and Quote me Ralph.
Have a good one.
Jeff Matiatos
Bob you forgot to mention in your spiel about the women, children, handicap and elderly being thrown into the street that it was accomplished in many many cases through false and made up code violations that were not true......i.e. inspectors going out and just flat out lying about some of the violations so they can accomplish the city's agenda that they cannot get to legally. What's up with that? You going soft on the city now days?
Bob you made my day Great
also Nancy L is back Right ON
Bobby I'm so excited for the Citizen s of St.Paul Google the case
http://justalandlord.com/2010/09/01/8th-circuit-court-of-appeals-rules-in-favor-of-landlords/
Sharon would be proud to testify to the corrupt dealing DSI
Maybe the voters will finally elect a city council that doesn't break the law just cause they can.
What are the chances of this news getting in the St.Paul paper ?
Word has it that it will be on channel 5 news at 10pm tonight so I am guessing the odds of it being in the paper tomorrow are good too!
Here is the deal folk's. If the city goes to trial and the plaintiffs win which I and many others believe they will, it opens the flood gates for hundreds of other home owners to sue the city.
Is the city willing to risk this? I hope so! I want to see them held accountable.
Screw the settlement and go for the trial. It's time the whole city knows what these bastards are doing to people.
This is one trial I would LOVE to see happen! The effects the city has had on many individuals needs to be addressed and made public for everyone to see.
I was thinking this may be a good topic for the SPIFers to ponder around with too!
Just an idea, what ya all think???
Aah no Chuck and Eric must be hiding from truth. DFL washed up in Saint Paul. Time for change.
Black groups no where to be found. Landlords represent blacks in Saint Paul. Hooray for landlords.
Ray
4:30, who is going to post at SPIF? Link Bobby's blog, put salt in wounds.
Sharon has tried to post to SPIF was successful to give Notice to City Council during todays Agenda 1Sept10 http://sharon4council.blogspot.com
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Sharon would be proud to testify to the corrupt dealing DSI
Read Decision http://www.justalandlord.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/St.Paul_.pdf
I was going to volunteer to post the great news to SPIF but it looks like mine possibly would be monitored as well being that I would be considered a returning poster. Regardless I would gladly give it an attempt!
Let me know...
Nancy O.
Right Bob, this is why the city will settle just before trial.Part of the reason the city usually settles on the eve of trial is because they want to know if the actual trial strategy via discovery and witnesses lists will bring more to bear upon the actual exposure of the actual defendants involved and, since it is claimed that some of these defendants will not be under the protection of city attorneys defending the actiions of the others, the city is not going to be very comfortable not having a direct hand in the way some of these defendants are going to be represented by their own private attorneys.
I mean if settlement only involves the city paying the othersides attorneys fees and a non admission of guilt, then it was all for nothing.
What were the monetary damages being asked for outside of the normal litigation expences anybody recall ?
Jeff Matiatos
I don't remember seeing anything ever about how much damages in dollar amounts but I do remember something talking about danages and they were saying lost income past and present, lost appreciation on the real estate, and something about having to sell cheap and not realize full profit because they had to get out of the business fast because of the city targeting. My imagination tells that amount whatever it is will be huge.
Thanks Jeff. You are a valued member of this town hall. We need more legal beagles like you and Nancy Lazaryan posting here on a regular bases.
Nancy O., go ahead and give it a shot at SPIF if you will. All Rick Mons can do is censor you, and if he does we can have some fun with that too. :)
All of us in the know, know that insider group of DFLers at SPIF tried to hide this truth on behalf of their party.
well Chuck...we have had to listen to your drooling crap for years now. You were wrong. Now step up to the plate and admit it.
All this ruling does is say that plaintiffs have established a basis for trial.
Until a jury decides the actual merits, everyone is innocent.
I have posted this topic over at St.Paul Issues Forum:
SAINT PAUL/city housing code policy's has disparate impact on minorities!
I am sure many of you here recall the lawsuits involving several property
investors that were targeted by housing inspectors for tenant behavior in which
many of them were considered a protected class of citizens, meaning low income,
minorities, and etc...
Today the 8th Circuit Court released their decision determining that there is
sufficient evidence supporting Plaintiffs claim that St.Paul's housing code
policy is having an impact on minorities to have a jury trial. This has been an
ongoing lawsuit battle involving several St. Paul citizens/business investors
that will now finally get there day in court to have a fair chance with a jury
hearing the case.
Having this case heard by a jury could result in very high punitive damages for
St. Paul and its taxpayers. It could also be the beginning of making St. Paul
once again more livable for many low income and minority citizens that have
been forced to move out of the city.
The complete opinion is available for your viewing at A Democracy, I felt this
topic should be of interest/concern to many here.
http://ademocracy.blogspot.com/
If you would like to follow it it over there as well the link is;
http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/stpaul-issues/messages/topic/4Plt5x8rSn6hq7aiMxXNB5
Nancy O.
I can't help thinking about the poor souls back on Whitall Avenue on the Eastside who were low-balled and misled by developers, and eventually forced out of their homes in "settlements" with the City. It's a bit different than the code enforcement issue, but there was more than few minority families affected. I definitely think this a story worth more attention and a full vetting. It would be interesting to see this case go to trail, but I'm a little skeptical about that actually happening. Thanks for the update Bob and I'll definitely keep an eye on this.
Marty Owings
It appears now that the landlords are going to remove the bottom tier of city officials and city councilpersons, which runs 8bout 80 - 100%.
I heard Chuck went into hybernation.
"It would be interesting to see this case go to trail, but I'm a little skeptical about that actually happening."
The only way it will not go to trial now is for the city to settle it out and hush it up for chump change like they always do.
"All this ruling does is say that plaintiffs have established a basis for trial.
Until a jury decides the actual merits, everyone is innocent
Ummmm......not quite. What it says is that there was a disparate impact.
Thank you kindly Nancy!
Channel 5 annouced they were talking about this lawsuit, I'm waiting!
And that diaparate impact was caused by St. Paul and its inspectors. Now the flood gates will open and all kinds of people will be suing the city for their illegal behavior
Why didn't plaintiffs attorneys subpoena the TISH evaluators for their reports ?
Plaintiffs attorneys also could not support it's theorys that the city intentionally destroyed emails . And by the way, the city produced over 1 million email files and not one shred of anything came up that means jack.
Plaintiffs failed to assert their legal arguement in their brief which deprived the reviewing court it's duty to address the issue of bad faith. VERY critical error her.
The news report was closer to the truth than anything we have gotten from main stream media in years.
I am disappointed ch 5 news did not provide some clarification to how the judges came to their decision.
Thank you Les for doing your part in our fight for honest government.
OK - I have been to busy to be at the Town Hall, so thanks Nancy for posting the notice on SPIF.
So, I read the ruling and are you all clear on what it says?
It says that the 8th Circut Court agreed with the lower court in throwing out every claim that could ever make any one of these landlords one thin dime.
What it reversed was the lower court saying that the charge of disparate impact should be thrown out. So, there will be a trial to determine if the impact of the City's housing enforcement adversely affected minority groups and if it did what should be done about it.
So, from my end of seeing things, everything that I care about or concerned about comes out fine.
Every claim that the landlords had about them being picked on... thrown out.
Every claim of conspiracy... thrown out.
Every claim of not producing evidence... thrown out.
All of the Rico claims... thrown out.
What is left. Did the housing code enforcement have an unfair impact on minority members?
It is clear from what is left standing in the suit is that the policy was designed to give the people who live in those units a better living environment and to stop the landlords from exploiting them.
If those policies had a disparate income on minorities then the City needs to develop a way to assist those impacted tenants or to reduce the impact.
That is the question that is left to the court. Did the City's actions have a disparate impact of residents of color and if so what was the City doing to reduce that impact.
We shall see if there was disparate impact and if the City had taken adiquate actions to reduce that impact.
One of two things will happen; either the City will be found to have not created disparate impact or had developed adiquate ways to address it; or it will be determined that there was disparate impact and the City will need to find a way to reduce the impact on communities of color.
And if anyone is going to get something out of this it would be tenants not landlords.
Sounds like a win - win to me.
Just My Opinion Not Those Of My Employers Past Present Or Future (or anyone else that knows me)
Chuck Repke
Did you read the courts writings Chuck? There is no longer a question regarding if there was a disparate impact. The court has said there was and it also doesn't make a difference whether or not the city did anything to address it. They took actions that created a disparate impact and people were injured by that disparate impact. I think they are going to get socked with a huge judgment against them.
11:37, I can't do that! Anybody is welcome here whether I agree with them or not.
Personally, I have missed Chuck lighting the fire of debate here.
Spin your merry ground at will Chuck. I don't think you will win any minds over on this one.
No it doesn't say there was disparate impact it says that there is "evidence" that PP2000 might have been as successful and had less impact see below:
"There is also evidence that PP2000 generated a cooperative relationship with property owners,
achieved greater code compliance, and resulted in less financial burdens on rental
property owners. It is reasonable to infer from these facts, viewed most favorably to
Appellants, that PP2000 would significantly reduce the impact on protected class members. Thus, there is a genuine dispute of fact regarding whether PP2000 was a
viable alternative to the City’s aggressive Housing Code enforcement practices.
Appellees do not advance any other basis for dismissing the FHA disparate impact claim. Accordingly, summary judgment was improper as to Appellants’
disparate impact claim."
So what you have is ONE dispute of facts that the court felt that the city had not given enough reason to dismiss and therefor should not have been dismissed.
That is it kiddies, what you have above you is what is left of the case. Was there a better way to enforce the code that would not have impacted minority groups?
Find anything else in there.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Ok Chuck, seems your not that well in tune with the landlords position on disparate impact. Your almost right on the definition but your ignoring the beef of the landlords position here.
That position is very precisly explaind in their appellate brief starting on page 28-43.
Can you post this Bob ? ( 28-43 ).
Well Chuck, talking about damages, here is a case where a plaintiff got 3.2 million in damages 83F.3rd 1546 ( 5th Circut ).
Jeff Matiatos
"No it doesn't say there was disparate impact it says that there is "evidence" that PP2000 might have been as successful and had less impact see below"
So what do you think this says Chuck?
These premises, together, reasonably demonstrate that the City’s aggressive
enforcement of the Housing Code resulted in a disproportionate adverse effect on
racial minorities, particularly African-Americans. Viewed in the light most favorable
to Appellants, the evidence shows that the City’s Housing Code enforcement
temporarily, if not permanently, burdened Appellants’ rental businesses, which
indirectly burdened their tenants. Given the existing shortage of affordable housing
in the City, it is reasonable to infer that the overall amount of affordable housing
decreased as a result. And taking into account the demographic evidence in the
record, it is reasonable to infer racial minorities, particularly African-Americans, were
disproportionately affected by these events.
If they were affected there was a disparate impact you fool.
I agree, if a JURY were to determine that their was a disparate impact towards tenants, then their is irrefutable cause to assume it affected the landlord it's that simple Chuck and any damages as a result of that impact are compensable under the Fair Housing Act.
I think it's sometimes called collateral damage.
Jeff Matiatos
If there is evidence of disparate impact, it might make sense to find someone injured by this and file a complaint with HUD which will have its own remedies including stopping bloack grant funding.
This is great. It's about time the landlords get a trial. And after the trial I can't wait for the criminal charges against some of these people.
Chuck, I'm convinced you can spin anything. But a jury won't be so inclined to believe any of your kind of crap.
too bad this won't come to trial before the election so the citizens can see what kind of leaders they really have. The news media will just brush this off like they have in the past. Eventually though, the truth will be known and the citizens of St. Paul can vote the bums out.
Did you read the courts writings Chuck? There is no longer a question regarding if there was a disparate impact.
No, it means that there IS a question, and that question deserves to go to trial.
Chuck, don't you think that if there were mistakes made on some of the issues, that this is a road map for the next suit. You are something else
Hello All
I Bill Dahn is sitting back laughing at Sty.Paul and it's DFL Party for screwing the people of St.Paul.
The "landlords" are helping pay your way with their tax dollars and they are now dueling a good job to expose the city for the RICO Act.
Let's all support these brave people that brought the law suit against the DFL Tyrants.
Bill Dahn for the next Attorney General of Minnesota.
www.billdahn.com
Thanks to all of the good people left in St.Paul for their part in cleaning up St.Paul City Government.
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Bob you should have your Blog to Facebook and Twitter
Nancy's SPIF automatically
Thanks Nancy O
http://www.justalandlord.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/St.Paul_.pdf
Sharon tried but is blocked by this nonprofit Title 26 501c3 contrary to their tax exempt status
Channel 5 made a FOOL of CityAttorney Jerry Henderickson who makes more money than the Governor $137 thous in 2007 2010 ?
link above
Jeffs request-
Linked above is most of the beef supporting the disparate impact claim.
Pioneer Press
St. Paul housing-code lawsuits are given new life
Apparently my previous comment about sodomizing Steve Magner with a toilet plunger was deemed too incendiary by list management.
I apologize.
With a day for reflection, let me merely say that I hope this suit leads to justice for the many honest, hard-working people who've been screwed by this autocratic city, and that the likes of Magner, Martin and Dawkins find themselves looking down the business end of the legal process they manipulated against so many people that are, by any rational measure, better than them.
Bring on the trial.
Bitches.
Sorry. Still fired up.
For any persons who want to believe that the remaining claim (s) of the plaintiffs here will not yield anything more than a verdict in their favor and attorneys fees, think again Chuck.
While the courts I believe erred in dismissing the claims that were dismissed, claims under the Fair Housing Act and the damages permitted can and do get into the millions of dollars. I provided an example here.
All the evidence gathered in by the plaintiffs will be used in every faccet of this case and the court must permit evidence to show motive and malice.
These code enforcement Nazi's will have to answer each and every question and a jury made up of folks like you and me will judge not only the answers, but the looks on their faces while answering.
It's going to come down to credibility and the jury is going to be in awwww when they hear all of the witnesses testimoney and see how the plaintiffs attorneys are able to link each and every Nazi to the way all this went down.
Thanks Bob for providing that link, the brief of the plaintiff and the article in the pioneer press spells it out.
There you go Chuck, try to spin all that.
Jeff Matiatos
Jeff they don't get any new charges in the case. There is one charge left; that the code enforcement had a disparate impact on minorities. Any other crap that is attempted to be brought up will be thrown out by any judge.
Now, the landlords have to prove that the enforcement had a disparate impact on minorities, by offering real evidence... like data, statistics, something that would look like facts. And, the City will get to defend themselves by explaining what they did to make sure that there was not disparate impact. What were the efforts that did to improve the housing situation?
So, as an example Housing 5,000 and the number of affordable units that the City added during this time period will be a defence for their more aggressive code enforcement.
With me? At the time that 300 (a guess at a number) units of affordable housing went away as a direct result of code enforcement 1000 (a guess at a number) units of affordable housing were built by the City then a jury could reasonably find that the City made sure that there wasn't impact on protected classes, because it more than replaced the potential lost units.
Remember the time period in question here was while Mayor Kelly was building housing all over the city. And, it was long before the foreclosure crisis created all of the vacants.
Another defence is any action the City took to help evicted tenants. If everyone of those people were successfully placed somewhere by the City (and I have no idea if they were or weren't) then there would be NO IMPACT. Which in my eyes would have been the best result. If the City actually assisted the tenants in relocation.
So, if these actions had an impact on tenants, do you really think that any jury is going to give any money to the jerks who wouldn't maintain their properties? No chance. If there is any financial issues on this it would be directed towards the tenants, people who lost their living arrangements and were not adequately assisted by the City during that transition.
So, like I said the landlords lost on everyone of their counts that could have made them a dime.
And, the good news is that the City has been put on notice again that it always has to watch what unintended consequences occur to the poor when they take action against the people who exploit the poor.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Bill Dahn Position Paper, he also is a Victim of City's Disparate Treatment with his Homestead at 256 Morton
Chuck says "No it doesn't say there was disparate impact it says that there is "evidence" that PP2000 might have been as successful and had less impact"
The court says "These premises, together, reasonably demonstrate that the City’s aggressive enforcement of the Housing Code resulted in a disproportionate adverse effect on racial minorities, particularly African-Americans. Viewed in the light most favorable to Appellants, the evidence shows that the City’s Housing Code enforcement temporarily, if not permanently, burdened Appellants’ rental businesses, which indirectly burdened their tenants."
Who's got it right? The court or big mouth Chcuk?
The city does not have a defense Chuck. They can harp all they want about what they did and how many units they built but if their actions affected soem renters that were not helped by the city then they are on the hot seat. Landlords presented affidavits from tenants who were hurt and not helped. Case over and the city pays.
11:19 - Read it again sllllowwwlly.....
What the court said is, "Viewed in the light most favorable to Appellants"
Which means if you assume no defence and believe everything possible on the other side, could there be a case?
On EVERY Charge but one. Disparate treatment the court found no case... dead, over.
What it says in this one charge is there is, "IF viewed in the light most favorable to Appellants.." the chance for there to be a case.
That is why it is going to court.
Everything else, "viewed in the light most favorable to Appellants.." was still garbage.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
For 3 years you told us this would never get through the federal courts Chuck. Look at where the plaintiffs are now.
Can you do a better job of giving us the odds the city will attempt a settlement?
Looks like the St,Paul Port Authority may be on the hook for about 51 million , how bout them apples !!!
St. Paul is going down the tube because of bad leadership. Time for a change.
Where's that Cuulen at? That's the voice I want to hear. Repke and these stooges are going to spin the DFL bull no matter what. Cullen never seemed to really side with either side all the time but rather just called them like he saw them and that's the opinion I value - one that's based on reasonable interpertation of the facts before us and not some political BS? He on vacation or something Bob? I notice he didn't even post in the pioneer press and that makes me think he doesn't even know what's going on.
where is errric? you running from the truth errrric? where is the naacp? where is the black mn caucus? no where to be found. they holdin their grant money from whitey real close. black folks don't have any community leaders.
No matter what these guys get to trial with or what they call it when the jury hears what the city has been doing to people I think they will want someone's head on a platter.
2:57, we will hear from these groups when it looks like the city is about to settle. They will be standing there with their hands out for cash (reparations) to supposedly rebuild the communities.
I don't think any of these groups should get a single dime. ALL of them have known what has been going on for years and they turned a blind eye.
Saw this on the news last night and immediately thought about you, Bob.
I must admit I don't understand the nuts and bolts of the issue at hand, but I do know that the reporter stated this could cost the city millions....heh.
That would be a shame, because as we all know the mayor and council have been scraping the barrel to keep all of their moonbat programs afloat, and everyone is sick of watching chris coleman squirt tears all over his shoes about LGA.
Gee, they might have to cut funding for the bicycle advisory board! Horror!!
Congrats to the plaintiffs, and to you Bob for your persistence.
Dittos here! This battle has been brewing for many many years and it will be nice to finally see the city held accountable for their dirty deeds. Too bad it will not go trial before the elections.
I agree about Bill Cullen. He was never all the way to the right or off the deep end on the left. A steady voice of reason and that is needed here sometimes.
This shows REAL leadership by the landlords. The court case proves the chickenshit leadership by the city council. I am disappointed by the lack of action by the NAACP (that's you Nick)and the other black community groups.
Folk's I'm sure Bill Cullen has plenty to say about this issue.
I am hopeing we hear from him soon!
Sad thing is Chuck and Eric are always citing the betterment of the renters and running the landlords down in the process and now when a Federal Court says there's some merit to these claims and orders them to trial, one would think that these guys would think that maybe just maybe there may be some merit and if so maybe some people have been hurt by the actions of the city and maybe the upcoming trial will expose some wrong behavior and put an end to it so the people that Chuck and Eric just months ago were claiming were victimized by these evil landlords could now have a better life. Don't hold your breath on that one! Chuck just flip flops and keeps spinning and Eric apparantly is hiding under a bed somewhere too scared to show his face here.
Interesting that the DOJ is suing the AZ Sheriff http://legaltimes.typepad.com/files/us-v-mcso-complaint.pdf
We should have Sheriff Fletcher arrest Magner MS609.43 forCivil Rights Violations More to Come
Bob,
In the mayor's speech a few weeks ago, he mentioned that DSI boss, Bok Kessler is retiring. I wonder if he got wind of this?
" Dirty Deed Done Dirt Cheap!"
Look's like St. Paul's previous city anthem is about to change! Justice served would change that anthem to Folsom Prison Blues!
All I called him was a butt wipe and I get deleated? Ok I'll behave.
Where was Eric while the city was doing all this abuse of African American. It's the same place he's gone now.
Wait a minute here.
How is this good news? PLEASE EXPLAIN.
The appeal was only granted in the "Disparate Impact Claim."
All other claims or appeals were thrown out.
I don't see this as a victory, as 97% of the appeals were affirmed and only "one" claim was overturned.
Bobby having trouble with PC since Rick Mons apparantly has hacked into account www.e-democracy.org However check Paper New City Attorney Sara Grewing will handle the Federal Jury Trial for City Sara makes $125 thous when Henderickson is the highest paid City Attorney $137 thou in 2007. City Attorney is Cash Cow for the City
So the salt, pepper, and steak sauce was thrown out. So what.
The good news is "disparate impact" is the beef of this lawsuit.
I haven't met anyone who would turn down a steak without seasoning.
Repke would turn down that steak and try to tell you it is a hamburger.
"Every Dog Has Its Day" !
Hey Chuck and Eric how does it feel to be on the side of the losers, St.Paul City Government aka D_F_L_ Party?
The Dumb Fucking Liar Party runs St.Paul's Government, they do some pretty dumb stuff and tell people that it for the good of city or its people.
Now they put their foot up there own asses and just watch for bribes, that's so they don't have to pay out millions in law suits.
Remember Nancy O's home that she had remodeled and the St.Paul's Code Cop's condemned her home and tore it down and even tore her garage down, was that a mistake or done in spite?
E Democracy people must feel like their dead Ma ma's got rape in their graves by their lying St.Paul City Democratic FRIENDS that told the people in the TWIN CITY area that they were treating people fairly and not discriminating on the landlords that were renting to low income people.
Vote Nov. 2, 2010
Bill Dahn
For
Attorney General
www.billdahn.com
You could always put a little magner sauce on that steak.
Years ago there were pictures posted on SPIF showing Styeve Manger taking things out of Nancy's home, what ever happened to those pictures Bob?
Please scrool down this blog techinally http://divas1.blogspot.com/
Some of Nancy's Pic's at 14 . Jessamine
What has the City of St.Paul_Ponzi Scheme to Demo Propertys_ gained by demo 14 E.Jessamine the empty lot is in TRUST by the State of MN techinally under th control by Lori Swanson MN AG
http://rrinfo.co.ramsey.mn.us/public/characteristic/TaxValueStmt.asp?pin=302922210160
Copy for records before City and County manulipate the records with Software www.mnccc.org
Bob do you have that link for pictures for the following:
1. Nancy's house and Steve Manger and the guy in the red pickup taking things from Nancy's garage?
2. The pictures of Dave Thune's trash appartment/tea house building on 7th and Dave's trash house where he lives?
Delete if you want but Twitter and Facebook http://www.scribd.com/doc/36900473/JustLandlord-SA-1Sept10
You've Won_ So We the Citizenery of St.Paul must also
Delete if you want but save the URL
Sharons 1058 Summit Homestead "taken" 22 years ago comes into play AntiTrust Issues , when taxes paid, No Mortgage and the Judge Kathleen Gearin embellezid over $110,00 Equity_Skimming for her pecuniary gain....
Tired Have a Safe_Labor Day
Best I can find http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/city_watchman/?start=0
Thune is a class act all the way!
8:15 = Chuck Repke all the way.
Chuck was Thune's aide down at city hall.
Repke will do anything for Thune, defend anything Thune says. Heck if Repke could be Thune's blood brother he would.
Thune is a fraud. His support for disparate impact goes against everything he claims he is for.
I just have to laugh... Thune is the one guy on the City Council that regularly votes against demo's of properties, and the first person you guys go after....
I was Thune's aide from 1/1/90 - to 12/31/97. I haven't worked for him for more than twelve years. At some point when do my opinions not have you girls whining about Thune?
I said in an earlier post with the lone issue left in the case being disparate treatment of minority members, I don't care how the case comes out, because it is win-win as far as I am concerned.
If the City wins, nothing changes. If the plaintiff wins then the City will have to improve how it deals with displaced tenants and if anyone benefits from the suit it would be prior displaced tenants.
Look I am a freaking LIBERAL if the City had to pay relocation to the tenants every time it shut down one of your dumps I would be more than happy. The City has to pay relocation when it uses eminent domain, if it had to pay relocation to the tenant when it did condemnation for health standards it wouldn't bother me at all. Hell tack it on to the bill to the landlord as a part of the assessment!!!
The landlords have nothing left to gain financially out of this... so, I'm pleased.
Just My Opinion Not Those Of My Employers Past Present or Future.
Chuck Repke
Chuck, if the city loses, the tax payers are gonna pay a hefty penalty for the corruptness of those responcible.
This remedy you propose of assesing landlords for re-location costs as a result of the cities enforcement tactics is ass backwards.
Hell, if I was the plaintiffs attorneys, I would be getting a list of all the tenants names who resided in the plaintiffs properties during the period of time pertaining to this lawsuit.
Hell, put them on a witness list at least to get impact statements for the jury.
Next, once a jury finds that specific defendants for the city engaged in discriminatory practices under the fair housing act, use the authorities vested in the city and state laws to have those responcible fired and or suspended.
If the plaintiffs win, there will be protests at city hall calling for resignations !!!!
I am sure we here can get alot of backing for a huge demonstration at the courthouse and city hall !!
We will invite the media and pressure the mayor to fire those responcible.
You seeChuck, we can do more than just win in the courtroom, we can win in the streets to.
Jeff Matiatos
Right, and those responcible might lose their pensions.
Let's revoke Bob Kesslers pension to !!!
"If the City wins, nothing changes. If the plaintiff wins then the City will have to improve how it deals with displaced tenants and if anyone benefits from the suit it would be prior displaced tenants."
How do you figure Chuck? If the plaintiffs win they get compensated for the damage caused to them. Tenanats will not benifet from anything unless they bring their own lawsuit.
Chuck,you got some 'splaining to do. How come you and all your friends support dispparate impact. Stop your yacking and come clean. Just cause Thune is slow to vote against demo's, a lot has happended before that and its a small part. Why doesn't he stand up for what's right?
Any persons running this election cycle should be putting this issue and decision front and center to oppose those seeking re-election.
Jeff Matiatos
I think also that politicians, like doctors , should be required to obtain Liability / Tort insurance and pay for it out of their own pocket. This would eliminate the burden for tax payors and provide an incentive for politicians to not be as corrupt.
Think I will pass this along !!!!!
What do you folks think ?
Jeff Matiatos
Anonymous said...11:55 AM
Live like a nazi, die like a nazi. The trials are going to be just like the Nurenberg trials after the war. All the city's nazi's will be saying, "We were just following orders."
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SPEAK OUT
Sounds like the Democratic Party got its start from Adolf Hitler's Team.
Speaking out against St.Paul's Mayor Christopher Coleman or any body on the St.Paul City Council, you can expect a couple of armed officers knocking at your door, they show up with the e-mail I sent to Mayor Chris Coleman saying that he's just like the other
King A Hole the ran Germany
Adolf Hitler and how the smell of burning flesh is round him like cologne.
That was about the NEW Shalom Nursing Home built on the land that the city condemned for the many pockets of gasoline under the ground.
Bill Dahn
WWW.BILLDAHN.COM
The Next Attorney General
on The Independence Party
I almost forgot to say,
City Attorney Gerald Hendrickson is full of shit when he said the plaintiffs properties were the worst property's in the city.
The only thing the plaintiffs had in common was, they rented to tenants deemed undesirable by bigots.
Gerald Hendrickson is new to the city attorneys office. it is his turn to defend bigots.
"The landlords have nothing left to gain financially out of this... so, I'm pleased."
Remember these words Chuck. You are going to eat them at the end of this ordeal.
I don't think Gerald Hendrickson is new to the city attornies office. In fact he has been around forever. He is the one who sits to the right of Queen Lantry and he has routinely told the council not to do things because the city would have liabilitiy, just to have the council go ahead and do it anyways.
In the last weeks the federal courts have the told the city of St.Paul. That you can not take away grandfather law and have try
to kick out low income resident.
And pick on old and weak for code enforcement.
Now is the time from the risidents of st>Paul to tell the City council to stop making bad decides. And tell them that the grandfater of the widows. You can force me to put the ergress windows.
I want my money back now. If you file for appeal for the ergress window demand the money back. Or if you put in the windows demand the city to pay you back for it.
The fire Mrshall has right to tell you need to pit new windowin.
The City has no right to force you it too. That what a federal court said three weeks ago.
On the fire inspection for rental is iilgeal, City can notorder to fix things under morrison vs sax.
All you landlords need to sick together and file lawsuite from all stuff. I lanning sue the city now. First on the ergreess window in small claim . It cost $900.00. Then I am head to federal court for making me bring all my unit to current code.
Oopps , what about the grandfather law??
And do not forgett the port Auth. Lawsuit. No more money for the city. It time to riase taxes.
Make the risidents of st.paul pay for their bad decides.
City Attorney Gerald Hendrickson is full of shit when he said the plaintiffs properties were the worst property's in the city
City Attorney Gerald Hendrickson must have forgot to look at Mr.Thunes property or many other properties in St.Paul when he made that statement!
hopefully Nancy may reopen her cases? http://www.scribd.com/doc/23617037/NancyLazaryan-MN-Appeal081577-1201
HAVE ALL COURT ORDERS PUBLISHED
Only cases that the court considers to be significant ones are published.
Jeff - I assume that is exactly what the Plaintiffs will want to do. Statistical data and individual tenants who were displaced is what you will want for what is left of the case.
The first test of disparate impact, will be impact. Did tenants end up homeless, what did the City do about it? And then second did it fall harder on minority tenants than white tenants?
So, data is what is needed. Who got displace, and what was being done to assist? It isn't going to be won with a few selected stories, they are going to have to put real info together.
As to your issue about having Government officials carying liability insurance for their actions to protect tax payers, anything that they have done as a part of the job they are doing for the tax payers and the City is self insured. If any elected or appointed official is found to have done something personally against the law, they are personally liable.
But the last charge left "disparate impact" is not a "curruption" issue. It is a policy impact issue. And all of us citizens of Saint Paul are responsible for the action of the government on a policy issue.
12:57 - the only charge that is left is disparate impact.. on minority tenants. That is who is the potential victim and you would have to explain to me how you think that the building owner that had the violation should benefit because of his failure to maintain his property minority members were displaced.
Makes no sense they aren't going to see a dime.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Unpublished opinions are not published because the citations of law in these unpublished opinion briefs are simply repetative to whats already been briefed in the opinions already published .
Sound confusing ?
However, unpublished opinions can have some signifigant value when the circumstances of these cases can be similar to circumstances being researched in pending litigation that is about to be briefed.
Jeff Matiatos
Well, I cited a case here Chuck where the landlords were compensated in the millions as a result of Disparate Impact. Now the circumstances are not exact, but it goes to show that collateral damages are commonly awarded.
The Fair Housing Act adequately sets out the damages that can be awarded and if you still contest that plaintiffs cannot seek damages pursuant to this act, i will gladly set out the law to convince you Chuck.
Jeff Matiatos
Jeff Matiatos
Cities have been sued all over the country for fair housing violations and property owners have won those suits. All they have to do is show that they were damaged by outcome of the cities policies and they win money. Happens all the time all over America.
Elgin, IL - Bellview, IL - Longbeach, CA - Aurora, IL - Armendariz v. Penman.
The following link show tons of these lawsuits and the cities do not look like they come out too well - http://www.justice.gov/crt/housing/fairhousing/pressreleases.htm
You are all wet Repke!
but isn't it the landlords who are violating the law by not keeping their property up to code?
I mean, don't they get a fair chance to bring their property to code before its shut down?
So, how does this, if its proven, benefit the landlords?
12:23 - exactly my point. Everyone of the properties mention in the suit had time to make repairs and the ability to appeal any decision that the City made concerning their property on to district court.
The cases that are sited where discrimination occurred real victims were paid..
Elgin Illinois did this:
Create a $200,000 victims fund to compensate Latino residents who believe they have been discriminated against in housing code enforcement;
Enter into a four-year, $300,000 contract with HOPE to provide fair housing education, testing, counseling and other services;
- Real victims... no money for the property owners, money for the people who were discriminated against.
Again the issue here... the last leg standing of the case is that the City's policy though it was not intended to discriminate had a disparate impact on people of color.
To prove the case, the plaintiffs have to prove that there were people who were forced to live in substandard housing because of their lack of income and that when the City forced those landlords to repair their properties these people were unable to find housing in the same price range, because these landlords refused to repair their property.
So... if all of that is proven, why would any jury give any money to the SOB that didn't fix his property? Makes no sense at all. The only people who may see something out of this are those who were displaced.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Hey Repke its time to go back to School and learn the Constitution
www.taxthemax.blogspot.com
It's not just the Landlords Case but the Port Authority as Well
If Gloria becomes a Judge and you are living together without Marriage In my day thats Moral Turpitude.
MARRY THE JUDGE???? FACE REALITY
well in my day people knew to stay the hell out of other peoples business. Who is 9:35? is i the same person that keeps writing these things that makes no sense and then links you to a website full of jumbled information?
Her name is Sharon Anderson and she's harmless. We just go with the flow with her.
Sharon - Gloria and I are getting married this year, before the election! It took me a long time and a lot of asking but she finally said yes. So, despite having the campaign going on, she is still going to take a weekend off for us to get married.
As to the Port Authority... that has been an issue for a long time. The current question is can/should the investors be able to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. The Port's actions are not backed by tax payers money, only by the assets of the Port. The bond holders on the largely hotel assets went to court because the Port has been using the monies it gets from leasing space on the river to maintain the river. The bond holders are saying they should get all of the cash. The Port is saying if they can't maintain those sites, then the rent dries up and the bond holders get nothing.
We shall see what happens there, but it isn't the City. The Port is the Port.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck Repke
The landlords have the same protection as the renters do Chuck because of their asscoiation with the renters. That fact is well settled law. And as far as the city forcing the landlords to do repairs you seem to forget that the one big repair was the code compliance deals. Those code compliances were illegal. Thanks to Morris verses Sax, that fact has also been clarified by the supreme court of Minnesota....not to mention the fact that the city was arbitrary with who it was that they required to do these code compliances. These things have been proven already. The only left is to figure out the damages the city owes to these people.
Better yet, lets burn a copy of the city code enforcement books lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Chuck Repke Congratulations for making an Honest Women of a Judicial Candidate as far as the Port Authority with the Trillium BTU Fund re: J&J PortAuthority Grant of 1.3 million read it again at http://sharons-mn-id.blogspot.com/
Further the City Council is Board Members of Port Authority Certain Persons on this Blog have no idea of Fidicuary Trust and the LandLords claim for million against the City which must be covered by the Risk Insurance at the www.lmc.org League of MN Citys.
"Sharon - Gloria and I are getting married this year, before the election!"
Congratulation to you and Gloria Chuck!
First - thanks Bob...
then...
1:43 go read the what the court said... all the code compliance issues gone, dead, over, the court threw it out; the Morris V Sax issue is gone, dead, over the court threw it out; any other claims about the code on these cases gone, dead, over, the court threw it out. There is one issue left in the case... disparate impact on minorities. Thats it on everything else summary judgement in favor of the City.
Then Sharon, anything that Kathy and Dan do on the Port they do as members of the Port Authority not as City Council members and are covered by the Port.
And, as far as I know the City of Saint Paul is self insured and does not use the LMC's risk insurance.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
I remember writing about my experiences with the inspectors and staff here on ademocracy. It was well documented and researched, showing a number ofshoddy and wrong things. The first thing a city official did was threaten my mother (on this site).
Never forget we are dealing with a bad bunch in the city that needs to be removed for the good of all.
Bob G.
Who was the crook that had this job?
Job Title: Director of
Safety & Inspection
Opening Date/Time: Mon. 07/26/10 12:00 AM Central Time
Salary: $92,000.00 - $120,000.00 Annually
Job Type: FT
City name: Saint Paul
I will also add to my original complaint, that the inspectors entered my private residence illegally, after making threats to three other people. They did not have a search warrant, as required. I held this information out for possible later legal action.
What a bunch of creeps!
Bob G.
Chuck said !
Then Sharon, anything that Kathy and Dan do on the Port they do as members of the Port Authority not as City Council members and are covered by the Port.
Chuck always sticks up for the cronies that run St.Paul and its dirty government.
First time I met Chuck was when He came to my home in 1996 when I called Dave Thune about Ramsey Action Programs "bad" insulation.
Then Thune and the city attorney's help cover the fact that the Department of Energy's money was being misused and Bill Dahn wouldn't shut up about it and it did cost the tax payer more then people can ever imagine.
Everyone in St.Paul's Government call me a thief, liar and a extortionist.
That was then and this is now.
After Jesse and Dean Barkley became sick in my home after being there 20 minutes and then Jesse and Dean had to shut me up why they were there, that was to get me to change from the Reform Party to the Republican Party and Dean Barkley paid for the change.
LOOK WHO THE CROOK's WERE Jesse and Dean Barkley.
YouTube - JESSE VENTURA AND DEAN BERKLEY BRIBING BILL DAHN TO CHANGE POLITICAL PARTIES
Bad Boys ran Minnesota, just like THE BAD People That Ran St.Paul and its government from 1995 till now!
The People at
The New Sholom Nursing Home
will be able to bring a law suit on whom ever authorized the construction of it, it is still in litigation for another 2-3 years according to Kathy Lantry
Chuck where is the 5 million dollars that EXXON MOBIL gave to St.Paul when they sold the other part of that contaminated land to the city for 1 DOLLAR.
Chuck-- ask your cronies if it was worth all the aggravation about Bill Dahn's home?
www.BillDahn.com for Attorney General
St.Paul, MN.
This Code of Ethics is a working document
I. Contribute to society and
human well-being
II. Avoid harm to others
III. Be honest and trustworthy
IV. Be fair and take action not to discriminate V. Honor property rights
VI. Respect confidentiality and privacy
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Professional Responsibility
I run out of beer so I end up here
St. Paul has a lot of work to do on their ethics code. Too bad they don't worry about that half as much as they do their housing code.
Bill - two points.
One, Thune was then my boss and he wanted me to try and help you. You and I had several discussions over the phone, and I went out to your place to meet with you and see what his office could do to help.
I was trying to work with you and would have continued on, but our office was instructed by the City Attorney to stop making contact with you, because there was a restraining order on you for harrassing city employees and scaring the women by threatening them with physical harm.
That is why I stopped. Don't forget that. Thune's office was stopped from trying to help you because you get your kicks out of scaring young women over the telephone.
You probably pissed away your best shot at getting help because you couldn't stop getting your jollies from scaring women.
Two, as to Exxon, that is called a tax write off. Exxon values the land at 5 Mil and gives that to the City, they then get to write off the 5 mil on their taxes. The City doesn't get the money, there is no money that ever changes hands.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
This place is a mad house.
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"Better yet, lets burn a copy of the city code enforcement books lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5:20 PM"
Book burning? WTF?
and this Bill Dahn? I think is the same person as Sharon. They write their ramblings alike and both make about as much sense as a kickstand on quarter.
I don't know you Chuck but why bother with these people? They hide behind their computers and write anything because they will never have to prove anything or worry about accountability.
I went back over the archives on this case and holy shi-ite! All of those accusations without an iota of proof. All of that tax payer money wasted. Who's funding this clown attorney for the landlords? In all of these years, he's gotten a possible settlement for the TENANTS!
All of the criminal claims by the landlords are gone. All of the civil damages appear to be gone. At worst, the city will have to adjust its policy for displacement due to violations and compensate some specific tenants. Problem with the landlords case from the beginning is that they agreed that their property had violations. They owned up to it under oath, so how can they now claim that they were done wrong?
And, what is with Bill/Sharon ranting about everything against the city?
Sharon Scarrella Anderson aka Peterson has never hidden behind her PC with over 100 Blogs Thousands and thousands of Forensic Files on her 13 propertys "taken" illegally by the City of St. Paul, Ramsey Co, Aitkin and Itasca Co triggering the Murder of Sharons 2nd Husband Cpl Jim Anderson Silver Star,Purple Heart Marine Korea and without Compensation Sharons Mother Bernice A. Peterson was thrown in Jail by the City and Victor Tesdeco by Sharons Property at 2194 Marshall triggering Sharons Mother's Death May 1st 1984
NO WAY IS THE LANDLORDS SUIT OVER,
The Jury has the Right and Priviledge to have information of Homeowners Claims Google Sharon4Anderson v. City St.Paul
In Answer to Bob G. visit www.crimes-against-humanity.blogspot.com
O by the way Tedsco's son is another GAY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF ST.PAUL......
By information and belief the City Attorneys office has 42 attorneys making over $100 yrly
Sharon and Bill will fight to the DEATH so no other person's HOMEOWNERS will go thro what they have. Sharon's HS 1058 Summit Ave "taken" without Quiet Titles with Tenants in Common Decedants Bill and Bernice A. Peterson
Bill Dahn's Homestead 256 MOrton "taken" Sept 11th, 2001 without Quiet Titles or Just Compensation's Sign your name or seize and desist from publishing False Info to descredit Candidates for Public Office.
Bobby this is your blog but when my name is mentioned you should have the Right to ;publis
Sharon is very busy blowing the Whistle on the City http://www.whistleblower.org/index.php
This site is for educational purposes It a huge WORLD out side of City St.Paul
Hennepin County gives gang Strike Force a free pass !!!!
NO CHARGES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Right 9:24, why don't you take accountability for your post by telling us who you are DUH lol
9:24, two wrongs don't make it right. If the landlords had violations
(and no one is perfect), then so be it. Seems the citys conduct has far more reaching consequences than any code violations by the landlords. Thats what this is all about and the way the city went about driving tenants out with their strong arm tactics had a snowball affect on the landlords right to do buisness.
One thing that perplexes me is how come plaintiffs attorneys didn't sue the city for intereference with contractual relations between the landlords and his tenants ? This is a seperate cause of action !!!
Jeff Matiatos
"The city went about driving tenants out with their strong arm tactics had a snowball affect on the landlords right to do buisness."
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The 'right' to do business does not exist. The privilege to do so is granted through ordinances by the city. No more than a butcher shop has the right to do business here( they are still subjected inspections)
"One thing that perplexes me is how come plaintiffs attorneys didn't sue the city for intereference with contractual relations between the landlords and his tenants ? This is a seperate cause of action !!!"
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Because the city, through the council and mayor, have the authority, granted to them by the people, to make the rules and govern. Landlords agreements do NOT supersede local, state and federal laws.
D. Johnson
Now it's true that Government has the right to regulate one's buisness and dis allow any form of buisness that is illegal and unconcionable.
Courts can construe and void contracts.
If a citizen want's to apply for a liscence to operate a buisness, the Government may set the conditions for which that liscense is obtained but may not discriminate in it's issuance.
But, It is possible that a cities disparate impact discrimination that has had an adverse affect upon the contractual relations between the landlord and his tenants can be compensable in a seperate legal action.
The Constitution specifically prohibits the states from impairing the obligations of contracts.
www.law.georgetown.edu/gelpi/current_research/contracts/
Now read this page Johnson, and realize that if your going to try and school me, you better do your homework first.
Jeff Matiatos
www.law.georgetown.edu/gelpi/current_research/contracts/
Jeff Matiatos
that last word in the web address is
contracts/
Jeff Matiatos
"Because the city, through the council and mayor, have the authority, granted to them by the people, to make the rules and govern. Landlords agreements do NOT supersede local, state and federal laws.
If your statement was an hoinest one you would win the argument.........maybe. However you left out the part about how when the city only found minor violations they then fabricated other serious vioaltions in order to condemn the properties. They then used that condemnation status to require a code compliance which they had no authority to require either under local ordinance or state law. Maybe you think the above behavior is OK but I suspect the jury is not going to think that, especially with the anger toward government in the country today.
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9:24 is not posting a name because no one else does. inlcuding me.
I deleted off topic comments.
After leaving The Jesus Truck with wild rice soup in hand Thurs 3:15pm walking to downtown on 4th by LIbrary, SAW City Attry Gerald Henderickson, he's puffing on cigeratte and or ??? He looks GREY PALLOR, Affiant said WHERE IS MY CAR_ YOU MAKE MORE THAN GOVERNOR IN SALARY, YOU AND THUNE BANED "SMOKING" WHAT ARE YOU DOING SMOKING ON THE STREETS OF ST.PAUL, Hendrickson never said a word, started to run, apparantly to his car possible parked near Ordway. WISH NOW I WOULD HAVE THROWN THE SOUP AT HIM, "but for" the wildrice soup was to waste on this city attorney and his Ponzi Scheme's against Taxpayers.
Proceeded to check the old Minnesota Building "Owernship" by Chris Coleman isn't that a Conflict of a City Official Will get the Address and YOu Tube later
Please check out the Minnesota Building now APTS_ Financing questionable. This Building will be a comparable with Landlords Suit.
Of course Sharon will be a candidate against Dave Thune the public has the right to know whats going on with their money
\http://cop-corruption-minnesota.blogspot.com/2007/06/criminal-charges-joel-essling-tanya.html
Jeff Great Work for those who do not know how to copy and paste
Contracts http://www.law.georgetown.edu/gelpi/current_research/contracts/
Yuppers, I try .
Jeff Matiatos
Sharon
You should know by now that St.Paul and its government makes their own laws, they also think that the people in this area are stupid and don't know that graft is the main source of income for government and their workers.
City Attorney "Gerald Henderickson" might be making 3 times what you think under the table. and He does what the mayor tells him.
apparantly to his car possible parked near Ordway. WISH NOW I WOULD HAVE THROWN THE SOUP AT HIM, "but for" the wildrice soup was to waste on this city attorney and his Ponzi Scheme's against
Could I get you another cup of soup?
You know, I realize that it's been years since he was Thune's butt-boy, but I can't help but wonder if Chuck ever told Thune "Fix your properties, you SOB".
I wonder if he ever says it today, since the condition of Thune's slum empire is the same today as it was 12 years ago.
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