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http://www.grassfire.com/132/petition.asp?Ref_ID=3481&RID=24439From the Desk of:
Steve Elliott, Grassfire Nation
Obama's Attorney General is attacking Arizona's
immigration law -- without reading the bill!
The Obama team's goal is to set the stage for
amnesty while discrediting the grassroots Tea
Party movement. The ramifications are enormous.
See below.
--Steve
Last week Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX), poked a Texas-sized hole in
the push to stop Arizona's reasonable immigration law (SB 1070).
During a hearing with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who
has threatened legal action to block SB1070's enforcement,
Poe asked, "Have you read the Arizona law?"
Holder stammered, "I glanced at it."
Poe, a former prosecutor and judge then turned up the heat
on Holder, questioning his snap to judgment regarding the
constitutionality of the statute without having first read
the law. Poe then chided Holder by pointing out that the
16-page bill was much shorter than the healthcare bill --
which Holder claims to have read.
Sharon, had Holder read the law, he would have concluded
that SB1070 simply states that violating federal immigration
law is now a state crime as well.
+ + Why the Left is attacking Arizona...
Without even reading the new law, Holder and the pro-amnesty
Left are on the attack. And their reasons are clear...
The Obama team and pro-amnesty advocates are trying
to label anyone who supports border security as
a racist, xenophobe or hate monger -- and then
use this platform to pass amnesty and rally
their base in November.
Never mind that 70 percent of Arizona residents support the
law, or the fact that as citizens we have a right to have
our borders secured. If the Left can succeed in framing the
border issue in hate and xenophobia, they will have created
the political justification they need to pass amnesty while
discrediting their political opponents in the upcoming election.
+ + 100,000 Grassroots Americans Standing With Arizona!
Grassfire Nation is launching a national petition to give
Americans an opportunity to show support for Arizona's
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...but the issue is that what now is the case in Arizona is that municipal cops and other people in authority at city agencies and state agencies are required to investigate/determine if someone is an illegal if they have "reasonable suspicion" that someone may be an illegal immigrant. That allows a ton of abuse and forces a hostile atmosphere against people who have lived here their entire life.
I have read the law, it was posted here.
You guys do know that it is standard practice to determine one's legal status if they have been arrested in Minnesota. You do know that is the norm everywhere in the country and that the Arizona law is a sure fire way to make crime worse and not better because it will make an entire segment of the legal residents and citizens hostile to the cops.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Glad your back Chuck, You are a good Realestate person
Driving around all the empty lots re: Dale and Univ. East Side looks like a War Zone re: 7th and Bates American Linen Site
Well well well ......look who's all of a sudden concerned about abuses of the law and hostile atmospheres! What a f'ing hypocrite.
First 12:44 I don't own the American Linen site nor do I have anything under contract at Dale and University.
I am just a hungry Real estate broker trying to make a living like anyone else in a tough economy.
You want me to assist you in buying something, or putting it on the MLS the brokerage is in the book.
I figured you guys would be giving me shit for representing building owners and bar owners downtown.
...always figured you didn't actually read the papers.
...and then 12:49... I have spent my entire life standing up for those with out power against those who abuse their power. Fat cat land barons who suck the last dime out of a building before they let it go back to the bank on a foreclosure are not the people that I feel sorry for.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
The federal government won't send these "illegals" back. Illegal immigrant workers pay federal tax's using false social security numbers, stolen social security numbers and in some instances several illegals will share the same social security number to work. This money paid into the federal government is seldom returned to the illegal worker. Most do not file tax's.
There is a criminal under belly creating fraudulent identification and social security numbers for illegals to work under.
We need to vote out of office any politician who doesn't enforce our current immigration laws. We need to hold politicians accountable who support the violations of law in allowing these illegal immigrants to stay.
The illegal immigrants are a threat to our national security. How are they a threat? The illegal immigrants take jobs from legal citizens. THEY THREATEN OUR ECONOMIC SECURITY! Send them home, all of them, women, children and men. The governments south of the border are responsible for their economic condition like our government is responsible for our economic condition.
359,000 people last year... 350,000 people a year are sent back Bob! 14.5 BILLION dollars spent on boarder security.
Turn off Fake News, I mean Faux News, I mean Fox News and get some facts.
U.S. deportations double over 10 years
by Kyung Jin Lee
Feb 23, 2010
The United States almost doubled the deportation rate of foreign nationals over a 10-year span, according to the Department of Homeland Security’s statistical yearbook.
In 2008, the last year for which Homeland Security has released figures, more than 90 percent of the almost 359,000 total deportees were sent to either North or Central America.
Mexican nationals have had the highest rate of removals throughout the decade, making up more than 80 percent of total deportations in 1999. However, this share dropped to about 70 percent in 2008, with other nationalities making up more of the total.
Other countries that led in receiving U.S. deportees throughout the past decade include: Honduras, Guatemala, Dominican Republic and Colombia. In 2008, U.S. sent 17 percent of all deportees to Honduras, more than an eight-fold increase since 1999. Comparatively, the percentage of deportations to Guatemala increased 300 percent during the same time period whereas forced repatriation to Colombia and Dominican Republic dropped by half.
The Mexican government has been spending a lot of resources disseminating information on the rights of their citizens for many years, Cicero said.
“That has a direct effect on why people might choose voluntary departure versus fighting deportation,” he said.
Gail Montenegro, spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Chicago, said her agency does not target potential deportees by nationality.
“We target by evidence and intelligence, based on long-term criminal investigations,” Montenegro said. She said ICE has initiatives to target criminal immigrants, including street gangs.
Among deported immigrants in 2008, almost one-third of the cases were due to criminal activity. “The most common categories of crime committed by aliens removed … included illegal drug activity, immigration violation and assault,” according to an annual report issued by the Office of Immigration Statistics. These activities accounted for almost two-thirds of all deportations based on criminal charges.
For the two-thirds of immigrants deported without having committed a crime, Anita Maddali, staff attorney for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund in Chicago, said there are numerous ways undocumented immigrants could get deported.
“For instance, if somebody goes through asylum proceedings, loses their asylum case and loses the appeal, then they would be deported back to their home countries,” Maddali said. Other noncriminal ways immigrants can get deported include: workplace raids, applying for and being denied certain immigration benefits, and/or air travel, where they are subject to identification verification.
Brazil and Jamaica both appear on the top-10 list of deportees nine years out of 10, while Canada and Ecuador appear seven times. Nicaragua, Haiti and Peru have also made occasional showings. In 2004, China ranked No. 10, making it the only country from neither North nor South America to make the list. These eight countries have small numbers and combined make up less than three percent of the total.
The combined budgets of the agencies charged with enforcing deportations have risen substantially over a seven-year span, according to the Department of Homeland Security’s Budget-in-Brief reports. The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection budgets nearly doubled to almost $14.5 billion from $7.5 billion between 2002 and 2008.
Despite their efforts, the number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. has not declined over the past 10 years. The Department of Homeland Security and the Pew Hispanic Center estimate this segment of society has increased by more than 3 million since 2000.
JMONTONEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Just to help you get your head around 359,000 people deported in 2008. That is just a tad more then the population of Saint Louis, Missouri.
Every year this country rounds up as many people as there are living in Saint Louis and ships them back the countries that they came from.
Of those that are Mexican nationals we are talking about 250,000 people. The size of Fort Wayne Indiana (or 30K less than Saint Paul). Every freaking year. Think about that almost as many as every man woman and child in Saint Paul are shipped back to Mexico every year.
But in Fake News world that isn't happening at all, there is a government conspiracy to do nothing. The country spends 41 million dollars a day on border security in the real world, nothing in Faux News world. Over 1,000 people a day every day including Xmas and New Years are shipped back to the country they came from in the real world... nothing in Glen Beck world.
Yup, that Arizona check the papers of US citizen law is going to really make this a better place... what a joke.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Yup, that Arizona check the papers of US citizen law is going to really make this a better place... what a joke.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
My response:
I have a lot to say about this issue but I have to go to work. So here is my short answer.
Federal immigration law states that a person can be stopped without probable cause to be checked for legal status. The federal law on immigration does not have the checks and balances the Arizona state law on immigration has.
The governor of Arizona has begged the president for help with securing the border. She has professed a long list of financial burdens and criminal behavior these illegals have brought to the state of Arizona. Obama has totally ignored her. A governor of the United States, disced by the president.
More from the state of Arizona here
And finally, the over whelming majority of U.S. citizens feel as I do on this issue. Link to poll here.
I am disgusted with our government on a federal and local level.
Most of us follow the law as citizens of the U.S., and yet our government is able to pick and choose which laws they will follow.
On the federal level politicians ignore immigration laws which has lead to very serious consequences for our nation. Locally Saint Paul city officials blatantly ignore immigration laws and housing laws.
I think U.S. citizens should have a tax protest and withhold our tax's in escrow until these idiots in government start respecting the law.
Bob, 14.5 BILLION DOLLARS spent on border security.
The City of Saint Paul being shipped back to Mexico every year.
And you think they aren't doing anything and a law that makes it a crime to walk in Tucson while being brown is a good idea and will actually make something possitive happen.
If we ever have that law here, I will get your ass sent back to Ca
Sad.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
"the Arizona law is a sure fire way to make crime worse and not better because it will make an entire segment of the legal residents and citizens hostile to the cops"
Yeah, because they've been so damn helpful up to now....pffft.
We have 1969 miles of southern border with Mexico. IF, we put the national guard on the border we could put a guardsman every 100 yards. That is approx. 23075 troops to secure the entire border for an 8 hour shift. 72000 soldiers for 3 shifts.
We can put the Navy in the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific to subvert sea going vessels attempting to get around the border patrols.
I think we could end the war in the middle east as it is being fought now. Leave CIA and special ops in the theater there, backed up by the Air Force. Bring the bulk of our guys home to defend the border.
This would be a good start until we can build our own Great Wall of China. We are in an economic war with Mexico. They are winning draining our economy of American dollars sent back to Mexico.
Folk's Canadian citizens aren't flooding our country illegally. They have responsible government in Canada. Things are bad in Mexico. It is the responsibility of the Mexican government to provide economic security for their people. IT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY during hard economic times to carry the weight of the Mexican governments short comings.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
1:34 PM
Chuck stop defending the illegal's that break the law.
Chuck, our government should put a chip in these illegal's, so if they are caught again they would be held in a Max. Sec. Prison.
We as Americans know better then leaving all these millions of all nationalities to remain here taking the jobs and eating the food that could food the homeless.
We wouldn't need any out side worker if they all went back, the hourly wage would stay stable.
Right People.
Message to Chuck and Eric
7:19
The punishment for illegal immigration is deportation. That's been the American way for about 60 years. The previous 180 years we did nothing. Most of your ancestors came here and stayed without going through any process or language test or ten year waiting period. If you got here, you were allowed to stay.
Again, this is some fantasy of Right Wingers that illegal immigration is a imprisonment type crime, its not.
Eric
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