Strike Force was rife with misconduct, panel charges in new report
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94 Comments:
So, who was the gang again?
I've got a friend who went to school with me and he does narcotics work for a far suburban department where he's a detective.
He wasn't too surprised about the stealing but, was shocked at the lack of cases brought to prosecution. Almost zero. These guys just basically mugged people for their money and materials.
That late night shredding has already been connected with ongoing investigations. So, the Sheriff was wrong in saying that these guys were just cleaning out their desks.
A few damning statements from the findings:
"It's going to be for the FBI and the United States attorney's office to determine, but when you take something home that doesn't belong to you, and you know it doesn't belong to you, it's a crime," he said.
The property included flat- and large-screen TVs, laptops and other computer equipment, electronics and recreational items such as water scooters.
Luger said that while "properly conducted, aggressive investigations can save lives," force officers "engaged in serious misconduct -- misconduct that was appalling and outrageous." The report said much of the force's activity had little to do with gang investigations."
Little to do with gang investigations and lots of stealing.
"One witness called the taking of property a "free-for-all."
Repeatedly, officers or their families paid nominal amounts to take items from the evidence room, including water scooters and a trailer, the report said."
"In another case, 20 watches potentially worth $2,000 were missing, and the case file contained a false statement that they were given to a jeweler for sale, the report said.
The report said the officers searched people's cell phones without warrants, photographed people -- including children -- who had no gang connections, and took property without search warrants."
The report described cases where thousands of dollars were taken from people who were not drug dealers but possessed small amounts of marijuana.
Thanks goodness these group didn't work toward taking any real gangbangers off the street because with this information, the courts would be forced to throw out the evidence and let them go.
Eric
Hi All,
I was asked to post this by Mike Smith, Jamoke Cryers cousin.
This is a message to the Saint Paul Police. Jamoke would like his confiscated van back. He was acquitted of the charges. This property should be given back to Jamoke OR, he should be compensated for it.
I don't think you totally get "it" Eric?
Many of us hold the belief the rogue housing policies you support have contributed to this mess!
This misconduct by the "housing goon" gang squad will play into any future jury trial of the fair housing lawsuits. You can count on it.
This is what we have been saying all along. There was limited or no charges and yet citizens were condemened from their homes.
Your ignorant egghead friends who have called the shots for so many years now in local politics, have let a dangerous dog (rogue law enforcement)lose among it's citizens. All in the name of making Saint Paul supposedly "The most livable city".
When people at the top of local government create a climate with law enforcement it is OK to bend the rules to meet an objective, this is the outcome.
Like I have said a hundred or so times here in almost 4 years, these policies to rid the city of undesirables has done nothing but breed contempt and disrespect for local government.
""""ALL"""" of you who have been players in local politics for sometime are responsible for this mess. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Bob,
You should go back to keeping your mouth shut. You show yourself to still be void of facts and full of contempt.
The MGSF was not under any political or authoritative control of the local government.
The fiscal agent in charge of over seeing those operations was the guy who started the strike force, Bob Fletcher.
I have worked twice to unseat Bob Fletcher. Guys like you hear him talk about law and order and arresting criminals and you send him back into office.
I could blame you and your ilk for sitting back and not getting involved in anything. For playing games with people like you're really helping them or going to help them but, not telling them the truth.
I could blame you for being part of the group who work against their own best interest, because you have an ax to grind with a council.
You and your friends don't like code enforcement because you guys either believe that poor and minorities should live in filth and be happy they got somewhere cheap to live or, living in filth is normal for you, so why not for others.
Its one or the other. Every major city in America and thousands of small towns have strict codes for rental property. St Paul is not unique or standout.
Eric
Bob,
Well said!
Now are you all going to get out and support change?
Are you going to support Eva for mayor?
How about the stuff going on with the St. Paul School Board? http://www.twincities.com/ci_13174376
It seems our school board wants to defy the State of Minnesota to let their buddy serve as superintendent and she does not have a license to be superintendent.
"Its one or the other. Every major city in America and thousands of small towns have strict codes for rental property. St Paul is not unique or standout."
St. Paul is unique you jackass! Other citys have codes yes but they don't violate the law and people's civil rights when they enforce their codes. And to add to that most fo them don't ahve motor mouths like you who stick up for the illegal behavior by using your distraction tactics. Where did you veer read here even once that people don't like code enforcement? You haven't! People realize code enforcement is neccessary as is the Police Department. What people don't like is the illegal tactics they use. Many people have told you this and your so damn stupid it goes in one ear and out the other like there's nothing in between. Get a life man.
I know politicians in Saint Paul want desperately to distance themselves from this mess and put it all on Bob Fletcher. And it is part of your job to do this, isn't that right Eric. There is a good possibility that a officer with the gang strike task force will come forward and tell us their misconduct trickled down from the top and I'm not speaking of Bob Fletcher.
Eric, how many raids do you think the gang strike task force carried out in the city of Saint Paul over the years? How many times did a code inspector tag along?
We will see Eric. ;)
I bet the task force didn't have code inspectors tagging along with them on raids outside Saint Paul city limits.
It is many citizens belief Eric, not just mine, your good friends in high places contributed to these good officers running astray giving them the green light to screw citizens out of their civil rights to chase them out of the city.
Many of us are confident the fair housing lawsuits will go before a jury. And if they do the civil rights violations will come to a grinding halt and retribution will be in short order.
As far as my FACTS on housing go, I hope a jury decides that Eric. Local politicians have EARNED contempt and disrespect from all of us who are not ignorant of these issues.
Hanoi Hannah comes to mind every time you come here in defense of your friends in local politics Eric.
I hear Chris is thinking of a run for governor. FAT CHANCE! And as far as the mayoral race. I will spend every extra dime I have to get out the "Anyone but Coleman" flier. I believe our next mayor will be a woman.
So Eric, you really have your work cut out for you defending the idealist you support in local politics.
As far as our fine sheriff goes. Well he hasn't been arrested or charged with anything. He maybe ignorant of what was going on in the task force.
By the way, this topic was a request from a dfl reader of the town hall.
Of course it trickle down from the top. With these politicians it's like "monkey see - monkey do." The ones on the lower rungs of power see the top dogs thumbing their nose at the law and due process so they do it too, all the way from Bush to Obama from the Feds to the States to the counties and citys. Eric and Chuck know what's gong on but it's not politicaly expedient to say anything against the powers that be because that's their side in the game.
8:36 AM
Tell Eric about his friends at city hall and the police who protects what they say and do.
Billy D.
I am not going to say too much on this topic because I do not feel like dealing with the typical feedback from one of the posters here and I have moved on with my life but...
I guess this Strike Force investigation report answers some of my questions as to where some of my property such as jewelry went too after the raid, the missing items were not on the inventory sheet, I figured the items were stolen when my house was left unsecured by the Task Force. When I tried to file a theft report, I was basically told there was nothing to file... Yes the Task Force (Joel Johnston) did have a housing inspector with for the raid(Steve Magner).
I was in the St. Paul area a few months back when a plain clothes, unmarked officer recognized me...yes Chuck he recognized me! He told me so... He pulled me over just because...he could! He searched me, my car, and my purse...no big deal cause I am clean citizen with nothing to hide and he found nothing, let me go and said he will pull me over every time he see's me because of my past. I try to avoid St.Paul but part of my job requires me to travel to the Dept of Health. I am sure this was just his way of trying to intimidate me and feel like he has power.
Looks like my past plans to haunt me forever even though I feel I have closed that chapter of my life...
Nancy O
Dear FBI,
I would like to redirect you all to some actual police reports about crime in St. Paul that is directly related to former St. Paul Police Chief Bill Finney while he was our police chief. http://www.justiceforbarbara.com
Here you will see the involvement Bill Finney since 1981 in the murder case of Barbara Winn. You will also see many drug dealers who were protected by Bill Finney. Some names will be interesting to watch, Aaron Foster, Plukie Duke, Ken Pluff, Brennan Jr.. All dirty and protected by our former police chief, Bill "Corky" Finney.
Aaron Foster is a close friend of Bill Finney who used to run drugs from California to Minnesota for Plukie Duke, as reported in the recent DATELINE NBC program, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24796236/
It sure is nice to know that Bill Finney, as our School Board Member and later as our police chief, watched over our children and all the while he was covering for his drug running friends like Aaron Foster, Plukie Duke, Ken Pluff (Brennan). Finney was also involved in the cover-up of the murder of Barbara Winn. Finney also put Foster to work in the St. Paul Police property room where the evidence was kept in his own murder investigation.
You will also see a name on these police reports that is very interesting. Ken Pluff Jr. Ken Pluff Jr. was a major player in a drug dealing family on the East Side of St. Paul. Ken Pluff Jr. was also a former cop who ratted out his fellow law enforcement officers and gave his drug-dealing family info about the cops that were watching his family. This put law enforcement officers at great risk. Ken Pluff Jr. had his name changed to Ken Brennan and he is also mentioned in these police reports. Ken is also good friends with Bill Finney. In fact Ken helped put up campaign signs for Finney in his last election bid for sheriff.
Former St. Paul Police Chief Bill Finney hired this Ken Brennan guy to provide security for the St. Paul Police impound lot. This is like having the fox watch the hen house. It seems Bill Finney is also close friends with a majority of the major drug dealers including St. Paul’s most notorious drug dealer, Plukie Duke. These police reports also tell of Bill Finney calling Aaron Foster to get out of Duke’s house just before the police raided it. It is nice to have a friend like the police chief to warn you to get out before the place is raided. Another St. Paul cop provided classified and secret information to his relative in jail who in turn gave this information to Plukie Duke was also serving time with him. Instead of firing this St. Paul Police office like the St. Paul Police Civilian Review Board had recommended, Bill Finney gave him only a 30-day suspension and he is still currently working for SPPD.
Also here is an interesting story about papa Pluff, Kenny’s father, http://www.citypages.com/1997-11-05/news/welcome-to-pine-county
The motto of the FBI is Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity, I wish you would practice what you preach. Go after dirty cops like former police chief, William Kelso Finney.
Bob, Eric's friend who is on the radio and also on the Ramsey County Charter Commission lead the push to get the position of sheriff appointed instead of elected.
Eric states he does not have a dog in this fight, but that is not the case. Eric hates Bob Fletcher and is doing everything in his power to trash Sheriff Fletcher.
Nancy O. said;
I was in the St. Paul area a few months back when a plain clothes, unmarked officer recognized me...yes Chuck he recognized me! He told me so... He pulled me over just because...he could! He searched me, my car, and my purse...no big deal cause I am clean citizen with nothing to hide and he found nothing, let me go and said he will pull me over every time he see's me because of my past.
My response;
Nancy, this offends me greatly this cop would violate your rights like this. Any cop who would violate a citizens rights is a PIG! What is his name? I want to chew his ass here and invite him to my tongue lashing.
Let's get this straight.
There is over-whleming evidence with some of the strike force members that you don't have with DSI. You've got over-whelming whining and hearsay as evidence. The two aren't even close. You've got four criminal investigations going on with the strike force-NONE with your complaints against DSI.
I have repeatedly said I don't support corruption and its not tough to believe that there may be some horrible employees within DSI - but, you have done nothing to prove it to be a city wide conspiracy. I've even mentioned the police and park employees where I am sure some need to find other work because they suck at their city job. However, you have not brought forth one piece of evidence of a conspiracy.
As a matter of fact, when I mentioned how I could believe some of the misconduct that was alleged in the Police Department, I got raked over the coals from the same jackass that continues to think if he brings up Bill Finney that will give cover to Bob Fletcher.
I've been consistent on this Bob and you know it.
Eric
I was brought up in a good family and taught as a child to respect the Police but I hate them to the core and I'll make damn sure my grandchildren feel the same about them. They ARE NOT your friend any longer.
Bob thank you... I know what he did was wrong too. My first thought was to file a complaint but I also fear of possible retaliation. I have experienced retaliation personally and have also heard plenty of stories and/or allegations regarding what some bad law enforcement officers have the ability to do.
I have done too well with my life to take risks a dirty law enforcement officer could really make life tough on me again. With my past history I feel credibilty has been destroyed, but I am continuing to work on that factor of my life too. He did call for a squad whom stood by me as he did his search, that officer was very polite and made it clear he had nothing to do with what was happening to me that he was just called there and was standing by...
Nancy O
Metro Gang Strike Force scandal threatens police relations with minority communities
Review found strike force members targeted minorities
By Mara H. Gottfried
mgottfried@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 08/22/2009 01:15:58 AM CDT
Metro Gang Strike Force probe said to focus on officers from handful of agencies
Metro Gang Strike Force officers stopped two men in the Minneapolis impound lot last summer, frisked them and took $4,500 from one and $100 from the other. Neither was a gang member and neither had drugs on him.
The men didn't know each other, but they had something in common — both were Hispanic and they were illegal immigrants.
An independent review released Thursday found some strike force officers would stop people who were not suspected of gang activity and seize their money.
"These encounters almost always involved a person of color," the report said.
For some, the report gives credence to a perception of a police propensity to target minorities that those communities have tried to bring to light for years. A St. Paul community leader said he hopes the report leads to a wider discussion of race and law enforcement. But a sheriff expressed concern that the report's disclosures could further strain relations between law enforcement and communities of color.
The report by former federal prosecutor Andy Luger and retired FBI agent John Egelhof didn't mention racial profiling and Luger said the panel couldn't reach that conclusion, but some said they had little doubt about what was happening at the now-defunct strike force.
Three lawsuits filed in recent months detail gang unit officers seizing cash and property from people not engaged in criminal activity; most of the plaintiffs are Latino.
"Members of the MGSF engaged in a pattern and practice of using their apparent authority as police officers to extort cash and property from people coming into contact with the MGSF, particularly from those concerned about their immigration status who would naturally perceive that they had no ability to assert legal rights," says one suit in federal court in Minneapolis. It was filed by six people who claim strike force officers took their property in illegal seizures; they were not charged with a crime and they did not get their property back. They claim civil rights violations.
One plaintiff in that lawsuit, Zelaido Rivera Garcia, was highlighted in the Luger-Egelhof report as the man who had $100 taken from him at the Minneapolis impound lot. The man who had $4,500taken him from, Dagoberto Rodriguez-Cardona, has filed a lawsuit against the strike force in Hennepin County District Court.
The Luger-Egelhof report — commissioned by the Minnesota Department of Public Safety after a state legislative auditor's report released in May found at least $18,126 in seized cash and at least 14 cars couldn't be accounted for — detailed the impound lot case.
"A minimally documented strike force case file indicates that officers received information that people of Hispanic descent would arrive at the Minneapolis impound lot to retrieve a car that had narcotics in the trunk," the report said. "There was no information in the file to suggest where this information came from, or whether the source was a reliable informant."
THE TARGETS
Two families — one of Honduran descent and the other of Mexican descent — arrived at the impound lot. They didn't know each other, the report said. Strike force officers lined up all the family members, frisked them and found no drugs, weapons or evidence of illegal activity.
Rodriguez-Cardona had $4,500 in his pocket from his position as foreman of a construction crew. Garcia had $100 in his wallet. Strike force officers took the money and called Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
"The facts of this case are deeply troubling," the report said, and cited five reasons:
"(T)he case file does not make clear why the strike force officers took on this matter. The tip that they received makes no mention of gang activity and is both vague and of questionable reliability."
"(T)he stop itself is of questionable validity. Officers conducting a stop must have reasonable suspicion that individuals are engaged in criminal activity."
"(W)hen they stopped and frisked the two families, the strike force officers developed no information leading to the conclusion that they were engaged in illegal conduct. To the extent that this interaction had any validity, it should have ended there."
Rodriguez-Cardona said $4,500 was taken from him, but "the limited documentation in the file indicates that $4,014 was seized. There is no documentation regarding the $100 the second man claims was taken from him."
"(W)hile the men were undocumented aliens, the Minneapolis Police Department has a policy against contacting immigration authorities or asking suspects about their immigration status in situations like this. ... The two men now face deportation."
The federal lawsuit also says a "targeted, deliberate place (for officers) to conduct their thefts was the Minneapolis impound lot. ... MGSF officers would often call the impound lot and ask if there were any 'Mexicans' there attempting to pick up vehicles."
A response filed by a gang strike force attorney denied officers "acted contrary to law."
Phillip Fishman, a Minneapolis attorney who represents Rodriguez-Cardona and is one attorney representing plaintiffs in the case involving six people, said the Luger-Egelhof report validates the lawsuits.
"But what's tragic is the underpinning of all of these cases," he said. "Police know that these clients are vulnerable: They're undocumented and they're targeting them. What's tragic is these are sworn police officers. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. This is a community scandal of the first order."
'IT WILL SET US BACK'
Luger said Thursday that 10 to 12 of the strike force's officers, who came from departments from around the metro, were involved in misconduct or criminal acts, including taking seized property home for their own use.
"This is not condemning law enforcement," he said. "This is condemning the conduct of certain officers at a certain police agency."
Still, Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek said he believes some information in the report could put a damper on relationships between law enforcement and minority communities.
"In some cases, maybe rightfully so," he said. "Our job as law enforcement officers is to build relations with diverse communities, while at the same time policing them in an ethical, fair, just manner; not tearing them down as it appears may have happened with the Metro Gang Strike Force. It will set us back for quite some time as a law enforcement community."
Nathaniel Khaliq, president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's St. Paul chapter, said his organization has received complaints over the years about vehicles, money and drugs taken and no charges filed. While the Luger-Egelhof report validates many concerns voiced for decades by minority communities, it's "just the tip of the iceberg," Khaliq said.
"This report certainly doesn't surprise me and shouldn't surprise anybody who's been involved in fighting for justice," he said. Khaliq said people the NAACP has heard from were mostly reluctant to file complaints because they didn't think anything would come of it or they were concerned about police retaliation.
And when someone did want to lodge a complaint against the strike force, there didn't seem to be a mechanism to do so, Khaliq said.
Khaliq said he hopes the Luger-Egelhof report is "a wakeup call to the whole criminal justice system that leads to an examination of the system from the top to the bottom."
Mara H. Gottfried can be reached at 651-228-5262.
Bob, Eric's friend who is on the radio and also on the Ramsey County Charter Commission lead the push to get the position of sheriff appointed instead of elected.
Eric states he does not have a dog in this fight, but that is not the case. Eric hates Bob Fletcher and is doing everything in his power to trash Sheriff Fletcher.
...and now for the rest of the story:
Eric has been on that radio show and E-Democracy debating his friend over this issue.
I am not for eliminating the position. I said the only way I would consider supporting that is that the county attorney becomes appointed, the county board becomes part-time and have little executive power and we ELECT a County Executive, like some counties out east do.
A county executive would be accountable to the people for the actions that go on in the county like the mayor in the city. The county board would ave a role similar to the city council. Right now, they have a combined executive and legislative role but, the accountability is diffused through seven electeds.
When you're upset over taxes, services or "appointments" who do you go to? You go to YOUR county board rep- who then may go to the rest of the board for some action.
How much more accountability would their be if we went to a County Executive (one person) elected by us and demanded action? A lot more, without six other to blame.
Even with that set-up, I'm still hesitant on eliminating the elections of the sheriff and attorney.
I don't hate Fletcher. He's just another politician to me. I know that is loyal and good to his friends and he has fought to expand the scope, staff and budget of the Sheriffs office.
As an elected official, I find too many of his decisions run against the best interest of the public that elected him. So, I worked to have him replaced. When he won- you didn't find me bitching and complaining about the process or results. I didn't insult him personally. I publicly congratulated him, looked for areas I can agree with the mission of his office and moved on. Until the next election. That's how professionals do it.
Eric
Eric, your friends are in big trouble! They F...ked with the wrong people and WE THE CITIZENS are not going to quit until there is convictions and retribution.
You bet I have CONTEMPT, and so do hundreds if not thousands of other citizens. I and others in this fight aren't punks that can be intimidated. We will not stop until this city truly is the most livable city. And Eric, when many of the folks you defend are in jail or unseated politically Saint Paul will be a better place!
When you say you and your friends had the support of the community in your wrongful actions to rid the neighborhoods of citizens deemed undesirable, all you really had was a minuscule proportion of angry often bigoted citizens driving the agenda. And your friends found away to capitalize off these angry citizens complaints.
Now the time is coming near for your friends to reap what they have sowed. And I'm telling you, the harvest is blighted just like the communities where the low income rentals once were.
St. Paul's chickens are coming home to roost!
And Eric, when many of the folks you defend are in jail or unseated politically Saint Paul will be a better place!
Who in particular Bob have I defended that's going to jail.
Its time to stop barking like a little dog and start biting Bob.
Who is a 'friend' of mine that is going to jail?
What elected official is going to jail Bob?
I'll remind you that there is NO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION going on here. Its a thrown out civil appeal that's going nowhere.
So, angry Bob, tell us who.
Eric
First of all Eric, when I stated your friends, it was lose terminology. They really aren't your friends. It is your job to get these people elected so I'm sure there is a lot of pandering.
I'm almost certain Magner will be facing federal charges. I'm rather confident some officers of the gang strike force will be facing criminal charges, because whether you want to believe it or not Eric, they have been part of this issue with housing. I'm afraid there maybe some city council members in hot water.
It is illegal to force the sale of a home through intimidation. Any council member who was aware of the civil rights violations and voted dishonorably to condemn a home maybe facing charges.
It's possible anyone who intentionally destroyed evidence will be prosecuted.
Don't be surprised Eric when the fair housing lawsuits go to trial criminal charges come from the hearings.
I have a surprise coming up real soon concerning the fair housing lawsuits. These civil lawsuits are piling up because our government hasn't acted honorably in dealing with this issue. Soon we will reach the tipping point as the evidence mounts.
First of all Eric, when I stated your friends, it was lose terminology. They really aren't your friends. It is your job to get these people elected so I'm sure there ia a lot of pandering.
Not my job. Wrong again.
I've worked on one city campaign and it didn't work it well. When it comes to campaigns, I stick to federal campaigns. I've had better luck there.
Don't understand the pandering comment. I don't work in the city or contract with the city. I am a DFLer and do support DFL endorsed candidates. You're free to do the same pander-free.
I'm almost certain Magner will be facing federal charges. I'm rather confident some officers of the gang strike force will be facing criminal charges, because whether you want to believe it or not Eric, they have been part of this issue with housing. I'm afraid there is some city council memebers in hot water.
You really think you're going to squeeze a defense of the strike force or rogue employees out of me?
I haven't done it in the the past and don't plan on it now.
Be sure to get that evidence before you're "almost certain" of someone facing federal charges. I wouldn't want you to look like a fool by promising results month after month.
It is illegal to force the sale of a home through intimidation. Any council member who was aware of the civil rights violations and voted dishonorably to condemn a home maybe facing charges.
You start off with a statement of fact. You then move to a connection that doesn't exist.
Here's an example of that you did:
It illegal to have sex with a duck on Maryland Ave. If any named Bob Johnson had sex with a duck on Maryland avenue, then he may be facing charges.
It's possible anyone who intentionaly destroyed evidence will be prosecuted.
Its possible anyone who sold that duck knowing it would be abused in public will be prosecuted.
Don't be surprised Eric when the fair housing lawsuits go to trial criminal charges come from the hearings.
I will be damn surprised. Its been years now and I'm still waiting for something. Anything.
I have a surprise coming up real soon concerning the fair housing lawsuits. These civil lawsuits are piling up because our government hasn't acted honorably in dealing with this issue. Soon we will reach the tipping point as the evidence mounts.
So there is evidence now?
What are you waiting for? The five anniversary? Bring it out man, c'mon. You've had this blog going for four years now, you owe something solid.
Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting...
Eric
From the article;
Metro Gang Strike Force scandal threatens police relations with minority communities
Review found strike force members targeted minorities
My response;
Exactly what I and other civil rights activist have been saying all along!
Probe said to focus on officers from a handful of agencies
By Mara H. Gottfried and Rubén Rosario
Pioneer Press
Updated: 08/21/2009 11:47:24 PM CDT
The 10 to 12 Metro Gang Strike Force officers believed to be involved in misconduct or criminal acts appear to come from a handful of the 13 agencies that were part of the task force as of March.
The focus is mostly on St. Paul and Minneapolis officers, and some from the Ramsey County sheriff s office, according to reliable sources.
With an ongoing FBI investigation, former federal prosecutor Andy Luger said Thursday it was inappropriate to start naming names and he wouldn t say what departments they were from. Luger co-led a state-sponsored probe of the defunct gang unit that issued its report Thursday.
St. Paul Police Chief John Harrington hasn t been advised of any of the names or the specific allegations involving personnel from our department or any other department, said Sgt. Paul Schnell, police spokesman. The department has requested the information, he said.
Harrington said when and if we become aware of information directly implicating our officers in policy or criminal violations, it would trigger the regular process of an internal investigation and action, Schnell said.
Holli Drinkwine, Ramsey County sheriff s office spokeswoman, said the Luger panel hasn t told her department of any misconduct by any current employee. However, based on the report, we have opened an internal affairs investigation into one employee. Our investigators will yield to the FBI probe.
A Minneapolis police spokesman said he couldn t discuss gang strike force matters.
From the article;
The focus is mostly on St. Paul and Minneapolis officers, and some from the Ramsey County sheriff s office, according to reliable sources.
My response;
Sure has been a lot of effort put into blaming Sheriff Fletcher. And now it is starting to surface his deputies had a lot less to do with this issue than the Saint Paul and Minneapolis police department.
Sure has been a lot of effort put into blaming Sheriff Fletcher. And now it is starting to surface his deputies had a lot less to do with this issue than the Saint Paul and Minneapolis police department.
Bob, if you want to tie yourself to Fletcher fine but, stop beating around the bush.
Bob Fletcher the Ramsey County Sheriff fought to create and fund this strike force. The Ramsey County Sheriff's Office was the fiscal agent for the Strike Force. Ron Ryan Sr., a close friend of the Sheriff and a nice guy in person, was also a ranking deputy with the Ramsey County Sheriff's Office was the SOLE commander of the Strike Force for 11 years. The evidence room clerk and bookeeper was an in-law of the Sheriff.
You're right the Sheriff had nothing to do with this. Wait until the next report from the Feds come out. 27 days and counting.
Do you understand the role of a fiscal agent?
Then you know where the responsibility falls. For 11 years no one said anything until they were able to get a new commander from Hennepin County.
You've got about eight posts on here about this unit. Put them together Bob. Look at the growing number of separate criminal investigations and the evidence that keeps coming forth starting with the officers shredding paperwork the night of the legislative auditor's report.
This was a failure of leadership.
Eric
Eric said, "Bob Fletcher the Ramsey County Sheriff fought to create and fund this strike force."
The task force was funded by the state until Stanek messed with the funding when he was in the house and later when he was in charge of the Minnesota Public Safety Dept.
Now Champian and Stanek are all over this, but it is their doing that the strik force had to resort to other funding sources.
Eric you sure talk big here, you THINK you know all the stuff, but in reality you don't know shit.
Sorry for the typos, but Eric you just piss me off at your lack of knowledge of the facts.
Eric 11:39 AM >> Thank you for your personal insight on organized crime in most police stations.
These ongoing investigations have been ending up the same as the St.Paul's RICO Suit.
Evidence get destroyed if it has been showing that the law makers are the biggest law beakers.
I seen it first hand with government employees, covering the back of some other political letter head that will pay them back in some manner. " a better job " or cash ?
Planed Stealing from these homes
or people is called conspiracy,
and covering up for a crime is called aiding and abetting !
Bill Dahn
Whistle Blowing on government sense 1996
6:22
How the hell am I talking big.
You must be a cop. No one can ever say anything critical or else you get labeled a trouble maker or having a big mouth.
Of course the state funded it- after Bob Fletcher lobbied hard to get it.
I'll say this- it was a good move and a show of strong leadership and creativity to bypass the county board and go straight to the legislature. My problem, and people's problem is the management and productivity of that unit after that.
Obviously Stanek and Fletcher haven't been friends but, as the story plays itself out, it appears that Stanek's instinct to cut the funding was a correct one. Especially when we look at their prosecution rate.
Eric
"Let's get this straight.
There is over-whleming evidence with some of the strike force members that you don't have with DSI. You've got over-whelming whining and hearsay as evidence. The two aren't even close."
The landlords have over-whelming evidence Eric. The trouble is that you just don't want to believe it because the bad doers are your political buddies. You know the score man and the only reason you're not poo pooing this strike force deal is because of the criminal investigations.
"Be sure to get that evidence before you're "almost certain" of someone facing federal charges. I wouldn't want you to look like a fool by promising results month after month."
He's not propmising anything that won't be delivered. Bob may not deliver it but it will be delivered. There's a couple of people from within the city talking to the attornies for the landlords Eric and you have a rude awakening coming up the road.
I always thought Chief Harrington was too decent a man for this city. But how do you lead when things are this screwed up?
Eric said;
Bob, if you want to tie yourself to Fletcher fine but, stop beating around the bush.
Bob Fletcher the Ramsey County Sheriff fought to create and fund this strike force. The Ramsey County Sheriff's Office was the fiscal agent for the Strike Force. Ron Ryan Sr., a close friend of the Sheriff and a nice guy in person, was also a ranking deputy with the Ramsey County Sheriff's Office was the SOLE commander of the Strike Force for 11 years. The evidence room clerk and bookeeper was an in-law of the Sheriff.
My response;
I am not tying myself to Fletcher.
Frankly, I have heard dirt stories about Fletcher from his own deputies and past friends. I have heard dirt stories about Finney from people who are or were close to him. I haven't posted any of the crap here.
And as far as the circumstantial evidence you commented on Eric, it is a lot like the evidence the landlords have. The truth is right there before our eyes and we believe it. Some think there is evidence to show misconduct in the fair housing lawsuits. I don't think there is enough, but I hope and pray a jury will decide that.
I do believe that when there is an attitude from high ranking city officials to rid the city of undesirables anyway possible, that message trickles down to law enforcement. There is over whelming statements from citizens claiming they were harassed out of their livelihoods and homes.
And I will say it again. The responsibility of this mess belongs at the mayors office and the city council. These are the people we the citizens need to hold accountable.
Bob,
You said, "The responsibility of this mess belongs at the mayors office and the city council. These are the people we the citizens need to hold accountable."
I couldn't have said it better. Hows the fishing?
I couldn't have said it better. Hows the fishing?
10:11 PM
The fishing is good! Not as good as last year but, it is good.
Thank you for asking.
The fishing is about to get a whole lot better real soon. Bet the farm on it!
Bad Boys are going to come calling Finney!
All over the country the FBI is busting corrupt government employees.
Why aren't they investigating here?
Answer: Because Bill Finney graduated from the FBI Academy and he is one of them and an untouchable.
"FBI could put Gang Strike Force cops on hot seat"
Former Metro Gang Strike Force officers are lining up defense attorneys in the wake of a report detailing widespread misconduct.
By RANDY FURST, Star Tribune
Last update: August 21, 2009 - 9:13 PM
http://www.startribune.com/local/stpaul/54021432.html
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2 Ex-Ramsey County Sheriff's Employees Sentenced
Two former members of the Ramsey County Sheriff's Office were sentenced to nearly three years in prison Friday, after each being convicted in August of stealing government money and conspiracy.
U.S. District Judge Patrick Schiltz gave former sheriff's investigator Timothy Rehak a 35-month sentence.
Mark Naylon was sentenced to 30 months. Naylon had been hired as spokesman for Sheriff Bob Fletcher.
http://wcco.com/crime/ramsey.county.deputies.2.928646.html
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Finally the FBI doing their job.
What has finney to do with this? THe owner of this blog needs to get some control and delete these comments that are way off the mark.
Wasn't there a finney title back when his friend went to court over the murdered woman from maplewood?
This is serious. There are badges out there who are stealing and violating civil rights all over the place and one nut wants to grind an ax with the ex police chief and a couple of more want to talk about code enforcement.
Get a clue.
4:01
All the content here has one thing in common, corruption.
Unless Finney is connected with the topic, its spam. To be fair, Bob has been deleting off-topic stuff posted by Dahn and Sharon. So what gives now Bob?
Eric
I'll be sure to keep my comments on topic. To do that I'll comment in response to the post on Rehak and Naylon. Finney set them up while he was still the police chief because he knew he wasn't getting rehired as chief and decided to sling mud at Fletcher in hopes it would help him win the election. He also started this whole mess. Finney is a slime ball who left a black cloud over SPPD and he is no better than the crooked cops in this current story.
Hows that for relevance Eric?
Nancy O. 7:56 AM
Hello Nancy,
Bill Dahn here, and seeing that police are trying to intimidate you witch is uncalled for.
We all seen that your life here in St.Paul was hell and filled with harassment from Steve Magner the code cop !
Cindy Brucato dogged you in her news report, your home was all remodeled and everything was like a new house.
I see that all was harassment do to who you knew, and now they are pulling the same shit again.
You mentioned that he would stop you each time he sees you, do they think they will get away with it again?
The city police and "who-ever" came through the back door of my home after kicking it in, they came in with their guns in their hands.
Forced me to the floor and
cuffed me, with a gun to my head. Many times this happened over the years.
I was never held, just intimidated.
Nancy, I need votes on 9-15-09
Bill
Eric,
May I remind you this is NOT SPIF. There you have the moderators pulling anything and everything that is anti-DFL. You can't pull that crap here. Bob lets it all hang out.
Finney is very much involved in this. Finney has directed several of his closest friends to do some of his dirty work for him. Cane to know who Stanek's PIO is? You guessed it a close and personal friend of Bill Finney.
I see you want to suppress the truth, and I see Bob is holding true to his principles.
We appreciate Bob here for his constant efforts in seeking the truth. Bob doesn't suppress information like SPIF does to protect the DFL Party.
Only the DFL and their reps try to supress the truth with their constant denial, propaganda and slander tactics.
FBI arrest of Rehak and Naylon happened under the Republican appointed US Attorney.
Both men, close friends and confidants of Fletcher, were indicted in early 2007 after they failed an FBI "integrity test" in November 2004. Jurors found they had taken $6,000 of $13,500 that the two men had been told had been left in a hotel room by a drug suspect.
In reality, the FBI had placed the money there, and agents were filming their actions in the room.
http://rnc08report.org/archive/761.shtml
You blame someone else for their actions? Says a lot more about you than the person you're trying to set up for blame.
A DFL coverup?
Public Safety Commissioner Michael Campion is a Pawlenty appointee.
Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek is a former Pawlenty appointee and Republican legislature (I should know, I lived in his district).
Bob Fletcher floated from Republican to Independent but, never was a DFLer.
If this is political, the DFL is on the outside looking in.
That should DFL angle.
Some of you rather say the stupidest things in order to be contrary to me.
Eric
Oh and Bob,
You're a pitiful phony. You should have taken Chuck's advice.
ERIC<----Just in case you get confused.
Eric you said, "Bob Fletcher floated from Republican to Independent but, never was a DFLer."
Bob Fletcher and Tony Bennet ran as DFLers when they first ran for sheriff.
Later Tony Bennet ran as a Republican for the seat he currently holds on the Ramsey County Board.
Just like Dave Thune used to be a Republican and when the Republican Party would not retire his campaign debt, Dave switched parties and now is a DFLer.
5:17 - You have no idea what you are talking about.
Bob ran as an independent with GOP support for his council seat.
Bob and Tony both claimed to be DFL when they ran for sherrif because they could. People can claim to belong to any party they want to. The DFL never endorsed either of them for anything ever.
Thune was a DFL'er until ran as a Republican against Tom Harrens for an open house seat in 1982.
After that election, Thune supported the DFL and then ran as a DFL'er in 1989. He has run with DFL endorsement in 1991, 1993, 1995, 2003, 2005.
We have forgiven his youthful mistake.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Oh and Bob,
You're a pitiful phony. You should have taken Chuck's advice.
ERIC<----Just in case you get confused.
2:36 AM
My response;
Eric, I considered deleting the off topic comments. However, this thread is about corrupt cops. There has been many story's in the """newspapers""" claiming Finney is corrupt.
For me this isn't about party affiliation. Both major parties in Saint Paul SUCK! We have spineless Republicans and power hungry rogue DFLers willing to bend the rules to meet their objectives.
The DFL has dominated every facit of local government and they cover each others ass to hold onto power at any cost. It is getting real hard to disquish good dflers from these bad apples.
Linked above is a message from our future mayor.
Bob,
Whatever. You're one the less informed out here dancing for the same ones who create the shitty situations you bitch about in other threads.
You perpetuate this Finney/Fletcher thing. It generates traffic to your blog. Although I'm willing to bet that if Chuck and I stop writing for a week, this place goes dead silent again.
1. You equate the two though one has been a private citizen for years, and one is still spending millions of our tax dollars- you equate both of them.
2. Finney and Fletcher both have had shady characters around them.
Most of Finney's came out in the 80's and 90's and there were headlines and court cases and accusations of set-ups. Fletcher's friends are working their way through the headlines NOW. That's why we're talking about it.
3. The only thing that has come up lately related to Finney was the Aaron Foster indictment. Foster went to a federal court- AGAIN. And was not convicted. Fletcher just had two friends who were also his deputies- convicted.
Anyone without their head up their tails can see the difference. One is history the other is an ongoing story and investigations.
You got anything new and developing on Finney, by all means post it. But, to take a very general topic, STRIKE FORCE..., and let is devolve into the same ol' Finney vs. Fletcher post marathon just to gin up traffic is really weak. Even for you.
ERIC <----(wouldn't want you to confuse it with you anonymous sycophants.)
For me this isn't about party affiliation. Both major parties in Saint Paul SUCK! We have spineless Republicans and power hungry rogue DFLers willing to bend the rules to meet their objectives.
Bull!
You care. You have no proof of any of these accusations. You just throw it out there. The reasons republicans don't win in MOST urban areas because they have rejected the needed programs strong infrastructure that has made cities work for over a century.
You usually don't get to govern the people you hate.
I've answered the concerns about this being a DFL thing already(2:35am). Its a case of the worse example of public servants abusing power.
Eric
"Some of you rather say the stupidest things in order to be contrary to me."
Well their reason for that Eric is because you are so far out in left field all the time that people have come to think if they are completely the opposite of where you are then they will be pretty close to being on the right side of the issue at hand.
Eric said, "You got anything new and developing on Finney, by all means post it."
When we did post or bring up such things as the golden gun and numerous other things like the Get Out Of Jail Free letters or Finney's protection of major drug dealers in St. Paul we were called racists by Tyrone Terrill. We were told by Terrill many times, "this type of high tech lynching of a Black man is not acceptable in our community."
Your logic that somehow Finney isn't in power anymore or the stuff happen so long ago that it is somehow ok. Please tell that to the kids who were buying that crap the Pluff family was selling on the East Side. Several known drug dealers were working on Finney's campaign for sheriff.
When one of Finney's friends, Benny Williams turned over secret information to a known drug dealer, John Clark who in turn gave this to Plukie Duke, Williams was not fired as recommended by the civilian review board, but just given a 30 day suspension.
Eric, just because Finney isn't in power now doesn't give him a pass on the crap he has rained down on the citizens of St. Paul for so many years. Finney did this under the cover of his badge. As someone who wears a badge everyday, I can tell you the effect Finney has had on our community and it isn't a good picture.
Finney sat all proud on the St. Paul School Board in his uniform and then in as soon as the meeting got done he was back to his old ways protecting his drug dealing friends who in turn sold this crap to our children.
So Eric defend, excuse Finney all you want, but history will not change. Finney was a dirty cop and he is still running his little scams.
My response;
I see Hanoi Hannah coming out in you again Eric. You are using your favorite tactic. Destroy the messenger. Then you go on to leave an innuendo that this town hall will not exist without you and Chuck. Believe me, the town hall will go on "actively inviting and informing" the public of this site.
If you and Chuck quit, and weak arguments fill your void your oppositions side of the story will go unchallenged. And as close as elections are in Saint Paul, that could be very bad news for your party. Look at the in fighting you are having now within your party.
Republicans do not have to take over politics in Saint Paul. Good DFLers will come to say enough is enough.
You and Chuck do a fine job of defending your party's objectives.
The Fltcher/Finney stories I have posted here over the years have been request. I rarely if ever comment on these stories. And I do not post the stories to generate traffic to the town hall. IF, it was as you say to generate traffic to the town hall, I'd post the requested stories from people close to them who have an axe to grind. I haven't done that.
I and MANY others hold the opinions I have expressed here. If you want to hold the belief or convince others Eric these opinions I have expressed here are solely mine concerning local government, you are making a big mistake in forecasting the political climate. Hardliners within your own party are tired of vindictive politics and the status quo.
The corruption we are seeing surfacing now, is the tip of the ice berg.
So Eric defend, excuse Finney all you want, but history will not change. Finney was a dirty cop and he is still running his little scams.
12:40 PM
I haven't defended him you jackass. Nobody on here has. I'm wondering why every-time there is story that is connected to Fletcher, you and other deputies come out with Finney stuff? That's all.
You've had 35 years to get Bill Finney and you the stuff you got him with was not enough to call for his removal but, all this is stuff you've brought up before. You took it the course and lost, on some this over 20 years ago.
Why is it relevant now? And why is it only relevant when Bob Fletcher's name or connections come up?
Reasonable question.
Finney or Terrill are not employees with the city anymore. Why not file charges- you're a deputy, you know how charge someone with a crime. You can't believe that by posting on every Fletcher string that it makes people think anything about Finney that they haven't concluded already.
I was around his campaign for Sheriff enough to know that there were NO drug dealers working on his campaign. However, the Sheriff had a couple of convicted dirty cops working for him.
See how that back and forth goes?
You spend a lot of time running from comment section after section, and blog after blog- only to post 15 to 30 year old information about Bill Finney whenever new and relevant information about the sheriff comes up.
If you were really decent cop, you'd be appalled at the actions and decision of the Strike Force (remember, that's what this post was about). You'd admit that actions like this make it tough for law enforcement all over. At least that's what the honest ones have admitted.
Its time for you to retire.
Eric
Then you go on to leave an innuendo that this town hall will not exist without you and Chuck. Believe me, the town hall will go on "actively inviting and informing" the public of this site
OK- we'll see.
Eric
A Democracy - "This" is the peoples blob,
E Democracy is the Democratic, DFL, Union Blob.
Did Chris Coleman run St.Paul in the hole yet?
This is going to get me more votes because of Chris also running in the Minnesota Governors Race one year later.
Chris Coleman will win and then January 2011 he would take his new job as governor and leave the St.Paul Mayor Seat to "WHO"? or is that "WHOM"?
Someone that we did not elect in as mayor.
Watch Out St.Paul, "who" will the DFL sliding in as mayor?
Bill Dahn
Eric said, " was around his campaign for Sheriff enough to know that there were NO drug dealers working on his campaign. However, the Sheriff had a couple of convicted dirty cops working for him."
Ok Eric, do you remember a guy on Finney's campaign named Kenny Brennan? Kenny changed his name from Ken Pluff.
The Pluff family ran one of the largest drug operations in St. Paul history. Ken also was a cop who ratted out his fellow officers by using police resources to run license plates around his family's drug business. He informed his family of the cops, putting the cops in danger.
Ken Pluff/Brennan was the security officer who showed up at Lucy's when Finney's son got into that fight. Kenny took Jon's handgun so he would not get into trouble. Aaron Foster was having drinks with Jon at Lucy's. Foster is also a known drug runner. Finney hired this slug to work in the police property room. Foster didn't even graduate from high school, but Finney hired him.
Kenny Pluff/Brennan because of a plea agreement, ratted out the other members of the Chicago part of the drug gang. Kenny received a shortened sentence and changed his name to Brennan. Kenny now works for Sheldon Anderson's security firm. Finney hired this company to guard the St. Paul Police impound lot. Kenny was in charge of the security at the impound lot. Later Foster worked at the impound lot. Sheldon Anderson was Finney's campaign manager for sheriff.
There was the issue of guns. One in particular the golden gun. The bottom line is Finney purchased a $1,200 gun for $200. This gun was engraved and gold plated. The issue was investigated and had the statue of limitations had not run out he would have been charged.
Eric the list is very long, my break is ending. Oh BTW, I don't work for Ramsey County. I will be happy to post more if you like, but this is an arguement you are NOT going to win.
Time goes by, but a crime is still a crime. Just because some of the things Finney did happened several years ago, doesn't mean that they didn't happen and people were hurt in the process. Don't come here and say the drug dealing friends Finney helped didn't hurt people or the passage of time makes them all right. The damage is done, the people are hurt and many lives have been ruined because of Finney actions. Just think Finney was hired to protect and serve, but the only one he protected was his drug dealing friends and his pocketbook.
Ken Pluff/Brennan was the security officer who showed up at Lucy's when Finney's son got into that fight. Kenny took Jon's handgun so he would not get into trouble. Aaron Foster was having drinks with Jon at Lucy's. Foster is also a known drug runner. Finney hired this slug to work in the police property room. Foster didn't even graduate from high school, but Finney hired him...Kenny now works for Sheldon Anderson's security firm. Finney hired this company to guard the St. Paul Police impound lot. Kenny was in charge of the security at the impound lot. Later Foster worked at the impound lot. Sheldon Anderson was Finney's campaign manager for sheriff.
Sounds criminal. Who got charged? Even the landlords can bring a flimsy case court. You sound like you have some sound stuff here. You're a 'cop'. Where are the charges? Are they still running the impound lot under Harrington? Why? Again, what has this to do with the MGSF? Nothing? All of the above is within the last four years right?
By the way, Sheldon is a staunch Ronald Reagan republican and active in that party. I've got no political reason to defend him. I was there during the Sheriff's campaign and can run through the list of employees, Kenny Brennen wasn't one of them. The rest of them were, for the most part, suburban, white, drug-free. I said for the most part because two were non-white- all were drug free. Campaign reports are public records and accessible for free online. Look at the list and tell us who was a drug dealer. (I know you won't but I have to put it out there).
Here's my argument that you think you're beating. I'll be slow so that fabulous tech school degree can work for you:
What has Finney to do with this subject of the Strike Force? These are recent discoveries and he never had anything to do with the Strike Force.
Why do you haters that were unable to catch Finney when he was a cop, find it necessary to pit his rumors against Fletcher's ongoing legal issues?
Why aren't you the least bit concerned about a rogue unit at least at HALF the rate you seem to be concerned about a retired police chief?
What kind of 'cop' are you?
You say that these past accusation against Finney, if true, have relevance today with people who are still around. Fine. Makes sense. But, as a 'cop' aren't concerned about a cowboy unit that has been basically robbing and threatening innocent people?
According to other cops, its makes their job that much more dangerous when working those areas where some of this rogue activity happened.
Not to mention the lack of prosecutions and charges from people detained.
Maybe you're a desk jockey and not out on the streets so you don't care. If, you're a 'cop' at all.
Bob willingly posts all negative information he's given by you folks. Why not submit your whole argument with the links to the articles and then tell your story?
It just looks suspect that everytime there is a story remotely connected to Bob Fletcher, people start comparing it to rumors about Finney. Everytime, everywhere. You think it helps your guy Fletcher? Really?
How about being a cop and leaving that internal shit behind and stepping up to comment this mess of unit that has been bullying citizens as bad as any gang they're supposed to protect us from? Aren't you supposed to serve and protect as well? Why are you so quiet on this issue? Were you part of the strike force?
Eric
Eric said:
"3. The only thing that has come up lately related to Finney was the Aaron Foster indictment. Foster went to a federal court- AGAIN. And was not convicted. Fletcher just had two friends who were also his deputies- convicted."
Eric. Who do you get your information from? For the record:
The murder case against Aaron Foster was only brought to a grand jury ONCE! Foster was not charged with murder in Federal court. He was charged and tried in State court ONCE. And by the way. Finney was on the SPPD payroll in 2007. That is a fact.
Eric, nobody is talking about Corky's private life here. We are talking about his public service.
I see the relevence of the comments. Saint paul has a long history of corruption.
Eric,
Try these for a starter:
If you want to read actual police reports, try this website: http://www.justiceforbarbara.com
Last yeas Dateline NBC did a special just on Finney and Foster.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24796236/
As for Ken Pluff, a close and personal friend of Bill Finney, here is an interesting story of Ken and his family: http://www.citypages.com/1997-11-05/news/welcome-to-pine-county
Eric I almost forgot there was an interesting article in the City Pages about the Tucker and Finney. It was titled The Fall Of The House Of Tucker.
Clem Tucker was a close friend of Finney and was arrested at Finney house.
He was caught with 22 pounds of cocaine and 13 pounds of methamphetamine valued at $4 million.
Here is a link: http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2007/05/the_fall_of_the_house_of_tucke.php
So what? Finney is dirty.
What's up with the gang task force? You got any information for me on the dirty cops that took my watch and cash? Naw, you're on the take too. The whole damn county.
Folks, these cops are not your friends. Never trust them. They are not here to help you. Some are here to help themselves to your stuff. They want to arrest you or steal from you. Helping you is last thing they are here for.
Eric, you better watch your back, these thugs will not like what you writing here. thats why they keep trying to change the subject. Don't leave your house with cash or anything valuable. Make sure you always got someone with you.
You dirty cops are going down one by one. I hope you go prison where they sent some of the gangbangers, maybe you'll do your job there.
Amen brother!
The truth always comes out here and that's why I like it.
10:36,
Here is the link: http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2007/05/the_fall_of_the_house_of_tucke.php
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2007/05/the_fall_of_the_house_of_tucke.php
The Tucker story was in the May 2, 2007 City Pages.
For some reason when I post the link it is getting cut off.
If you go to the City Pages swebsite and search Tucker it will bring you to the story.
Eric how many murderers are working for St.paul besides Aaron FOSTER?
You think you know it all, your just somebody's party stooge.
Protect and serve is the work, the people of St.Paul aren't the people protected.
Look at Lucy's Bar and Finney's BOY, who was protecting the people at the BAR from the cops.
Daddy was chief and the BOY was
protected from being prosecuted for Gay Bashing.
Wow, this was the sweetish crime in St.Paul and the lesbian judge who own the bar did nothing.
Eric have a nice day, work is done till 11 tonight and will see what your lips had to say in responds.
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7:12 is stinking dirty corrupt cop- as if there is any other kind. Your more ready 'serve' Eric than 'protect' us from your brothers in blue. Check in on your donut break why don't you.
Your so dirty that you can't see your doing exactly what Eric does, shutting down people that tell the truth.
I wish the whole city could see how you dirty cops act when someone catches your brother with hs hand in the cookie jar. but knowing this town, they would probably make you mayor.
Why anyone would buy a home there is just beyond me.
Fletcher tried to stop initial investigation into Gang Strike Force:
http://tinyurl.com/ljr7p8
Fletcher defends Strike Force members shredding documents and evidence after investigation is launched:
http://tinyurl.com/ovslwk
Fletcher magically finds some cars and money after being reported missing in independent investigation:
http://tinyurl.com/mdfmzh
Fletcher's city pages interview, he tried to intimidate the writer June 2009:
http://tinyurl.com/lhu3y3
Fletcher is subject of recall petition after he threatens people at political forum after being accused of dating Kris Reiter:
http://tinyurl.com/nssm9t
Fletcher marries Kris Reiter less than a year later.
Fletcher spending follies of handgun permit money:
http://tinyurl.com/lvtvz9
Fletcher violating civil rights gleefully:
http://tinyurl.com/mfj7sg
Fletcher allows gun permit for disturbed woman who kills boyfriend- with a gun. She was a relative of a friend:
http://tinyurl.com/le4ogs
Fletcher's one week record of the RNC violating the Bill of Rights:
http://tinyurl.com/ngu8ge
Fletcher's closest two deputies, including his best man found guilty:
http://tinyurl.com/mtg6fj
Fletcher defends his Strike Force:
http://tinyurl.com/lpr7yq
Fletcher's Deputy steals $200,000 in taxpayers funds:
http://tinyurl.com/mfwpgt
More to come. Fletcher has six of his former employees in prison so far. he is under four different investigations and up for re-election in a year. Loosing the campaign may the best he can hope for.
You are really a sorry sack of shit.
You said, "Fletcher's Deputy steals $200,000 in taxpayers funds"
This woman was an employee of Ramsey County and NOT a friend or relative of Bob Fletcher. Sheriff Fletcher did not tell this woman to take this money. He fired her when it was discovered. This is something Finney failed to do as police chief. Finney protected his friends who were drug dealers, just think the impact this has had on our CHILDREN. Finney promoted drug dealing thugs for personal gain.
Come on Finney run for office again, I would like to see it.
I don't have time right now, but I will respond to your post in much greater detail.
The stuff Finney did has hurt all of St. Paul for many years to come. No time will heal that wound.
Got a lawyer Pig. Its the only way to deal with any official in this town. Just didn't get my stuff back. Of course no record of anything except a bogus charge that was dropped. there are many of us who knew it was a matter of time before someone actually brought it to the right attention, or got killed by resisting one of these Pigs.
Take advice from your defense attorney little Piggie and stop creating another paper trail on here, one that can't be shredded.
Dear Drug User,
You can go live in Minneapolis anytime you want! In my town drug dealers go to jail.
I don't know what you are talking about, but all my busts are good and I have a high conviction rate. There were good busts!
It looks like you got busted and are now crying over your lost weed. To fricking bad!
Just remember not all cops are dirty, in fact very few are. I woul dhave no problem turning in a fellow officer who breaks the law. I can also sleep very well at night knowing I have done a good job putting drug dealers in jail.
Listen to the Piggie squeal. The stirke force didn't put anyone in jail. The took other peoples money in their pocket and their stuff. Read the article.
Listen to that Nancy or Bob. Your brothers are dirty PIGS and you did nothing to stop it or report them. Sure you say it now but, where were you when the strke force commander was driving a Mercedes SUV? When the 14 cars came up missing?
You call me a drug dealer. I smoke weed. I don't sell it, I barely share it. That's not dealing and your PIG brothers got mad and decided not to waste their time with a petty charge and just take my shit.
So where were you when these dirty cops were playing police? Covering their reports or planting evidence. YOu know what they say, once you grease a PIG its hard to catch them.
So where was I, I was doing my job putting drug dealers in jail.
I can't speak for the MGSF, but I can speak about what I have done and will do.
There are always two sides to a story. In our business it isn't over until the fat lady sings or in this case the jury if it ever gets to that point.
Who knows, just like Foster and Finney, maybe they will buy enough time and it will just go away. Finney walked because the city was scared of trying a black cop with his community connections.
Buddy, stop the drugs for your own health. I have seen too many folks doing weed and it has ruined their lived.
The liberals in this town came up with the No Smoking ban for bars, so who knows what is next?
Cops must be the most self centered group in earth. They never know whats going with other cops who are dirty. They were just doing there job. Right? Wrong. Just say something about a cops action and they all swoon in about how tough police work and the cop is never wrong, even a young unarmed kid is gunned down.
Then you get this clown coming here talking about 'he was just locking up drug dealers' and doesn't know anything about the MGSF. I guess he doesn't know about the code enforcement cops either. He never heard about what they do to people everyday. I guess he is unaware of the ethical violations from one end of the town to the other.
No. He was just doing his job. He's working so hard for the people that he hasn't witnessed any of this. I've been reading this blog for about nine of ten months and many of the regular posters, with the exception of Chuck have had their run ins with cops who should still be flipping burgers somewhere. They ran good people like Nancy and Bob's son out of town. Ask Bill Dahn what's it like inside of one of those cells.
This guy tells you that he was harassed and robbed by cops, and you first try to make a drug dealer out of him (how you can conclude that from his story is a real stretch), then you direct the focus on him for three different posts. You say nothing about how he can find restitution if he has a problem with how his situation was handled.
This clown with a badge with a badge seems to have only been paying attention when Finney was screwing up. Since then, he's seen nothing. He knows nothing. I wonder if his rank is Sargent and name is Schultz.
He didn't know about the cops that let the W St Paul Chief in the back way to beat a prisoner for dating his daughter. He knew nothing of the cop got his crazy aunt a gun permit from the Sheriff, which she then used on her boyfriend who wanted to break up with her. He's not aware of the other cop who let's the dog chase minors playing the park.
He was just doing his job while Rome was burning. Now this disgrace wants to come on here and promote an agenda. One which it appears forced him to be a jailer with County Sheriff's Office.
What did you say above? "I would have no problem turning in a fellow officer who breaks the law."
Well, we're waiting.
And I stand by what I said. I hear stories everyday about cops doing this or that, but you need facts to back up these stories. IA hears stories everyday of how cops have mistreated them, but I also know that 99% of these stories are unfounded, they are just upset they were caught.
You don't like a ticket from the cop who caught you speeding, but have you ever had to pull a hurt individual or a dead body from a car crash because the driver was speeding? Once you do you will see the error in your thinking.
Have you ever seen a kid so high on drugs jump off the Civic Center Parking Ramp and then try and get up and walk away with two broken ankles? He then fought with four cops and several fireman trying to help him. Have you ever seen a 18-year-old kid so high the crap Finney's drug dealing friends were selling that his heart was racing at over 300 beats per minute? The kid made it, but it damaged his heart. He can't play sports anymore. What a waste.
How about the cop who jumped into Phalen Lake to try and rescue a 14-year-old kid who was drowning. He jumped in without a second thought. He got the kid out of the water before Fire arrived and they worked on the kid for over 30 minutes. They were not able to save the kid. After risking his life to save a kid he didn't know, his whole uniform was wet, cell phone, wallet everything and this smartass from the crowd yells out a very inappropriate comment, that is the thanks we get.
I can't speak for others, but I know what the job that I do everyday is a good one and I do my job well. You probably have NEVER walked in the shoes of a cop, you don't know what the real world is. It is not like the cop shows on TV or the movies. It is professionals doing a very difficult job. You come here and gripe about a ticket you got. Until you see the things I have seen then you can judge.
Until you have worked undercover and have seen the drug dealers and the effect these individuals have had on society, how they have ruined the lives of so many, all for that almighty dollar then come here and judge.
Can you be more predictable?
He said you would claim to have witnessed nothing but, attack anyone who questions the police.
Read the topic article and explain how you missed all of this. Explain why its OK for corruption in your eyes but, not criticism.
If the job is so tough, find another. There is no shortage of people willing to be a cop. Its not like its organ transplanting.
Can YOU be more predictable?
Talking about things that are way over your comprehension level.
Simple things for simple minds.
shut up PIG!
No oinking or squealing from you until someone calls these dirty stinking cops out.
your the worst kind of cop. A quiet coward who just sits back and pretends that everything they is OK! just like that facist buzzcut that stood over me while his buddies ramsacked my place.
Can you smell that? Some one is cooking a lot of bacon in St Paul. Your in the pan and don't even know it yet.
One clue about my watch. When you by the nice ones, that serial number is recorded with the receipt. You dumb pigs, when you see a new watch and plan on stealing it, steal the receipt to! Haha! Squeal PIG Squeal!
1:59,
What we have here is a failure to recognize that you are a very disrespectful individual. You think all cops know everything everyone else does. I worry about what I have to do. You seem angry, have you been busted?
There is help for this, don't break the law.
Yawn.....
"wee, wee, wee" all the way home (prison).
As President Obama would say, they are getting "Wee, wee-ed up."
I guess he doesn't know about the code enforcement cops either. He never heard about what they do to people everyday. I guess he is unaware of the ethical violations from one end of the town to the other. "
If this piece of shit is doing his job then that emans he's bringing in code enforcement to throw innocent women and kids on the street because fop the actions of their boyfriends which is what it is most of the time. Some job! They can't get the boyfriend or don't charge him but they ALWAYS get some inspector to throw the people out. The they go after the landlord and prosecute the shit out of him. 150 years ago we settled things with a rope and a gun and we were a hell of lot better off than we are with dirty cops stealing people's stuff, good cops covering for them and a police department that in general enforces political agendas and goes after people on technecalities rather than the real criminals. I wouldn't trust a cop for nothing. They're dirt.......all of them.
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