Tenants From Hell
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36 Comments:
People like this tenant are the people that Chuck and Eric always stick up for. They see no problem with the tenant, they always think the "slumlord" is the problem. When you get into the lower income tenants, well over half of them are consistent with what's shown in this news clip.
In the entire time I have read your "works" Repke you've never said anything about how the tenants victimize the landlords and how they go running to the city every time they don't have the rent and have the city issue orders to help them steal money from the landlord. Niether has Eric! Both of you just want to bash landlords with slanderous BS like "land barons" and false assertions regarding their wealth. You're the one that's full of shit and ytou writings prove it. You're just like the rest of the DFL shit in town that has to use "divide and conquer" to get your agenda advanced. Fuck you Repke.
For awhile, I thought that was the Repke household.
10:12 hit the nail right on the head. If St. Paul was really interested in getting the neighorhoods fixed up they would start holding the bad tenants responsible, not attack the landlords. City supporters claim they are looking out for the people, but they keep on supporting the failed notion that holding the landlord responsible is going to make things better when in fact thing just keep getting worse and more people keep moving out.
10:45,
But Repke will say it the landlord’s fault. They keep their properties like a dump.
That’s BS Repke. I am a landlord; I went out of my way to accommodate a renter who was behind. How was I repaid, my place was trashed. Her house was newly remodeled, new kitchen, new everything, both inside and out.
She trashed the place, and refused to pay three months rent ($1,500.00). She left tons of stuff that we had to pay to have hauled away. On top of that we get a letter in the mail from bankruptcy court. Long story short we got stiffed by the rent.
Not long after the renter stiffed us, the city comes by and it seems they got a complaint about the condition of the house. The renter called the city on us after we gave this woman all the breaks in the world.
What the renter did not know is we always take pictures with a date stame on them of the units before they are rented out. We showed the city the pictures, but they still wrote us up for the trash she left.
I wonder if the renters Thune has would get the same treatment from city as my renter did or would the city just cover for Thune.
It seems like this Thune guy can walk on water.
Repke you also seem to be on the same ranking as this Thune guy. They don't stink.
3:48 and 10:12
I don't stick up for anyone in particular. I usually speak up about practices and policies- not individual cases or incidents.
If there is a prevailing practices of sticking it to the landlord and there is no recourse for the landlord, let's talk. I'll get out in front of this. If there is a policy that says rental units must be at a minimum..., then I'm for it. If the practice is uneven enforcement, lets go get them.
You haven't proven consistent pattern of bad practices here. You've given some stories and theories but, you don't have proof of a practice which is why you having a hard time in court.
For the one hundredth time- some of you would be better stepping out of RICO suits, and going after the city on harassment or some form of unequal enforcement on your property- IF what you tell me is true. But this whole RICO thing is not working.
Now back to your original snarky-assed comment:
I speak on bad tenants as much as you speak on bad landlords (slumlords). The difference is, slumlords are making it hard for the small-time landlord to stand up with credibility.
For you who are still crapping on the DFL, go to the Republicans and see what kind of response you get. We all know how they have focused on the poor and minorities in this country.
Eric
Eric,
There are no Republicans in St. Paul.
This whole mess is the on the DFL's shoulders.
There are people who vote Republican, financially support Republicans and run as Republicans in Saint Paul.
Go to them and see how far you get when it comes to support. I'm willing to wager that there aren't any elected because they haven't produced anything of much value to people who live in cities.
Calling what you're in a mess, is subjective. Its why the people you support loose elections and the people with whom you have a problem with, well, they win elections.
(alright Swiftee, that's your que)
Eric
Eric you said, "Calling what you're in a mess, is subjective."
The housing code is the DFL's creation, NO Republican on the City council or the mayor's office.
The budget situation is on the city council and mayor. Don't cry like Chuck and say it is the Governor's fault. The formula for state aide was changed way back in 2003. St. Paul had had five years to deal with it. What do they do, they get on a mad spending spree and then have to pay for it by raising property taxes in St. Paul. NO Republican voted for this increase.
Go to who Eric, all government in St. Paul is controlled by the DFL.
Look what happened on the District Council when there was a Party change, you had a community orgaiizer who was doing some shady things. Back taxes in the tune of over 100,000.00.
So Eric don't try and pass this off onto the Republicans, it is the DFL's mess.
I am rooting for the RICO folks.
I'll go with ricomen also. These city leaders are so arrogant that the only thing they are going to listen to are lawsuits that cripple them. I know someone who did talk to the city by the way. What they basicaly said was if you don't like it then get out. They guy did!
I don't stick up for anyone in particular. I usually speak up about practices and policies- not individual cases or incidents.
I haven't heard you speaking up about crooked housing inspectors who lie about violations Eric.
I also haven't heard you speaking up about how the city rigged the court to get the outcome they wanted against property owners.
Nor have I heard you spekaing up about destrying evidence to cover their criminal acitity.
What "practices and policies do you mean when you talk about speaking up?
I think that tenants who skip out on rent ought to be prosecuted for theft.
Anyone know why we dont have laws on the books ?
How about landlords getting their legislators do draft a bill and pass a theft law.
The city could stand to gain from these kinds of theft laws by reaping in fines instead of trying to suck it out of the landlords.
Jeff Matiatos
Meathead says:
I haven't heard you speaking up about crooked housing inspectors who lie about violations Eric.
Me:
crooked housing inspectors?
Have you filed charges against them? Is there a list of charges that include several of them?
If not, you're talking about individual corruption and there is an avenue for that which I'm sure you haven't used that either.
Meathead goes on:
I also haven't heard you speaking up about how the city rigged the court to get the outcome they wanted against property owners.
Me:
The 'city' rigged the court? (hold on let me get my beer and popcorn for this one)
Even Al Capone couldn't do that in the end.
WHO in particular at the city worked with WHOM in the county and HOW did they ensure the court would be rigged?
I didn't speak out because I'm not a nutbag.
Meathead mistypes:
Nor have I heard you spekaing up about destrying evidence to cover their criminal acitity.
ME:
You read as well as you type.
After the court hearing I attended, I came back and made note that in spite of my disbelief in the conspiracy theory, I was shocked at the inability to produce some documents and emails. That's a long way from calling it criminal as there is no policy that demands long term retention of such- another issue I suggested be examined.
I've said it three different times that before you start accusing the city of covering up, checkout the policy and practices of the city. If there is past evidence of that this is what's done, and other cities have similar practices (both which are true), you've got no cover-up and your conspiracy is dealt another blow.
Does that mean some people were not treated like crap by some or one city employee- no it doesn't. But you've got an all encompassing charge here that is making you look crazy as well as some good people who are not.
Next thing you'll try to do is blame the recession on the way St Paul treats its landlords.
1:06
Housing Codes are not the 'mess'. I thought it was the enforcement of the codes that you were complaining about?
I agree with setting standards. The city (people) have a right to set a bottom standard for housing in their city. You don't like it? Rally support and run for office, lobby the council, get involved in elections, or just move. Notice that 'bitching about it on a blog' is not an option.
Eric
I would agree with you Eric and I think the city should set some standards because the standard they have now of the renter having no responsibility and the landlord being blamed for everything (by you and others) needs to change. It's not working, or haven't you noticed?
Conversations on here are so ADD its ridiculous. You get me or Chuck to make a point, or even agree on something and you're dumping some other crap in our lap.
Solve your own problems. I'm not here to help you feel better about your failures.
Some of you need to first understand what we're even talking about here. RICO does not negate code enforcement. Code enforcement is not only on landlords. City employees who are guilty of misfeasance, are not automatically evidence of RICO.
Too many are here just to bitch about the city or the DFL or anything. Too many others are willing to give them a slide because they look like they're going after Chuck and I. In reality, they make the entire group look like the Tin-foil brigade. Just like the slumlords who you are willing to take in on your suit to increase the numbers. Those slumlords who don't take care of their property, weigh down your case and lighten the credibility of the legitimate ones.
That's why the courts are starting to find this a joke.
Eric
Lets see if the courts want to set a precedent for the whole country on what they think is a joke. The joke is going to be on you Eric.
It's the DFL's fault.
What are the odds the criminal/tenant in this video is prosecuted? That would tell us if tenants are held accountable.
They don't want to proecute them, they just want to move them to your neighborhood so they can show you how tough they can be with innocent 3rd parties and make the problem go away so you vote for them again.
How about the landlord from hell ?
I had to move out of my rental apartment because my landlord had the utilities shut off because he didnt pay the bills.
I suppose that code enforcements fault to !!!!
Chet
12:41 you are so right on the money.
Ms. Moermond from the city is a real piece of work. I had the opportunity to ride up the elevator at city hall and her conversation with a city council legislative aide was really interesting. This conversation gives insight to your comment of making 3rd parties pay while letting the tenants off the hook.
People are really hurting out there. People are being discriminated against by the city at an alarming rate and they should talk to the Minnesota Department of Human Rights (651-296-5663). It does not cost you anything to file a charge with MDHR. The acts of discrimination have had to occur within 300 days of the act of discrimination by the city. It is important to follow up so when the MDHR filed their charge against the city it is not past the 300-day statutory time limit. The Minnesota Department of Human Rights will also cross-file with the St. Paul Office of Human Rights and the EEOC (Federal). You have to check this off on the form when filing. The city has to respond to these complaints. It would be interesting let’s say if 30 to 40 people filed with the MDHR. The message would get out fast. Discriminating against a class of people due to race is a crime. Discrimination against a person due to their disability is a crime. The actions by the city inspectors fall into discrimination area and this MDHR filing has been a concern of the city attorney. The city feels that most deadlines have passed in the cases that have already been filed by the landlords and the city feels they are off the hook.
The nice thing about filing with the MDHR and the EEOC is the city can't influence them like they can with individual city council members and city staff.
These folks aren't interested in Human Rights helping them. There is no money in it for them and they really would have to prove discrimination. One year and one month ago, I listed direct contact information for St Paul Human Rights, Minnesota Human Rights, U.S. Department of Justice Division of Civil Rights and even cited some cases where cities were successfully sued on behalf of discrimination.
Not one call was made.
Half the time they're crying about the city discriminating against their tenants and the other half they are complaining about how the tenants are destructive and worthless.
Then they wonder why no one believes their bull.
S.O.S.
Eric
That doesn't leave mcuh time to complain about you Eric!
I'm sure you'll find the time for that.
Oh, I forgot that everyone is corrupt. Silly of me.
If everyone is corrupt, the courts, the politicians and the commissions- then why don't you just leave? They seem pretty nice and honest in Canada.
Eric
Actually I'm thinking of Mexico myself. The housing standards are not as high. Wanna come visit sometime?
Funny thing is I had a black gal come in the other day to rent from me.She had papers from a SMRLS attorney that represented ger in court on a UD.Judge Yanish ruled for her and awarded her 1,400 to be paid by the Landlord. Some of the things I saw on the tenants deficiency list were strange so I looked further.A tip to all landlords.NO SECOND CHANCES!Check with local police and see how many police calls tey had.Some don't have criminal records like this gal but she had 40+ calls in 1 year.
I'm in a market where I can do this but if you have rentals on the Eastside you might have to rent to this gal and get forced out of business by the code cops.
Landlord
That's just exactly what happens lanldord. East Side and Frogtown are a small market compared to the market as a whole and the people willing to rent or live contain a very high precentage of persons with less than ideal social skills and values. If you don't tent to them you run the risk of being sued, and if you don't rent to them and try to wait for someone better then you run the risk of the city turning you into a vacant building and then needing a $50,000.00 code compliance on top of your lost rent while you go empty trying to please the city. This whole code enforcement thing is a joke. If the city was rteally interested in people saftey, then they would require the property to be inspected before anyone could move in, but they won't do that for obvious reasons. They want run down property busted up by tenants so there is a purpose for people like Lantry Lantry.
It's a "no win" and the city laughs all the way to the bank. It's such a good scam they want to raise the fees now on vacany buildings!
Eric you better start standing up for the blacks in this town or you will be the last one standing here.
Thanks to the group of landlord plaintiffs they are the only one standing up for everyones rights.
Current vacant bldgs 1,800 averaging 3 a day or 100 monthly
Citys website states "Most livable city"
WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE RELOCATING TO?
http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/index.asp?nid=2272
Walked the daytons bluff area, these are nice homes ie: 733 Conway beautiful duplex.
REmember Lantry at 25 Sandralee Lane, have vacant bldg across the street.
Lantry Greed will be her demise from public office.
I do and have been speaking out for minorities.
"I can believe there may be either corruption or discriminatory behavior from the city's end. Those people need to file complaints with... However, I don't believe there is any evidence of RICO."
Every fucking thread I have said the same thing. What's the difference? There is no money involved for the landlords in righting any discriminatory wrongs, only changes in practices or policies- that only benefits the minorities and not the landlords. Hence their resistance to go that route. And, my reluctance to believe they have any concern about the alleged practice.
Look at the comments by landlord and his buddy. Look at the deleted comment (of course I saw it). That's how a majority of them feel and minorities are not fooled by this lawsuit. MOST of these landlords are concerned about THEIR meal ticket not, the rights of minorities.
Re-read this entire thread to get a clue about how they feel about poor tenants.
I have yet to see any of the real civil rights organizations or agencies stand with the landlords. Maybe because they're still fighting too many of them.
Eric
Landlords are concerned about thier "Meal Ticket?" Would be thier lifetime of work to get to where they are and be self supporting just to have the city destroy their business and make them penniless? How about if someone destroyed your career? Maybe then you'd care.
1:39- can you read?
This is so tired and old.
We say we don't believe your RICO case, you play us a sob story about the poor tenants needing a place to live and only you provide that.
We say anything in favor of tenants, you start you sob story about your investment and how these tenants destroy your property and get away with criminal activity.
Which is it? If its the first, then I don't want to read anything about you being blamed for tenant behavior. It comes with the territory- don't buy a bar if you don't know how to deal with drunks. If its the second point, get out of the business, its not for you.
I have my career attacked a few times. You roll with the punches or change careers- I've done both.
Eric
Eric, your 2:48 post raises a great question and brings us nicely to the complaint at hand. Most landlords – including myself – will not put up with disruptive and dirty tenants. I kick ‘em out.
However, landlords who accept tenants who are not clean, quit or really great neighbors are the ones targeted by the city. So the way I see their frustration is, “if you don’t like the way the family behaves in a neighborhood (and I don’t either), than hold the families accountable. But do NOT blame the landlord for the tenant’s disruption.”
I am surprised that so many people advocate for rationing housing. As the city puts landlords who allow disruptive tenants are put out of business, we will increase homelessness and increase the number of transient households (as most landlords won’t tolerate it).
Do you think it is a good idea to threaten someone’s housing just because they are not the cleanest, quietest neighbor? I think it is a slippery slope.
Regards, Bill Cullen.
What they think is obvious from what they have said here in the past Bill. To them the ends justify the means and whatever gets in the way, well then they just slander it.
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