West End raises concerns about razing homes for invest St. Paul
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Hi All,
I took the time to re-type this story which was originally printed in the Highland Villager.
By Jane McClure
As many as 20 houses in the West End neighborhood of Saint Paul may come down to make way for new development as part of Invest Saint Paul, Mayor Chris Coleman's ambitious program to revitalize the city's most troubled neighborhoods.
The West 7th/Fort Road Federation is now setting up a task force to determine which houses, some of which are more than a century old, have historic value and ought to saved.
The federation also voted unanimously on October 8th. to ask the city to cover relocation costs for any displaced residents. "We want to make sure that people are treated fairly", said federation board director Ken Peterson. The maximum amount families are eligible for under federal guide lines is $20,000, but federation members question whether that is enough.
Nancy Homans, who who is heading up the invest St. Paul program for the mayors office, said the federations request is being reviewed. "In most neighborhoods, we're dealing with houses that are vacant", she said. "The issue of relocation hasn't come up".
Invest St. Paul is Coleman's proposal to revitalize the Payne-Phalen, Dayton's Bluff, North End, and Frogtown neighborhoods by purchasing and demolishing or rehabilitating vacant buildings, improving commercial corridors, stepping up property code inspections and taking a more focused approach to city spending in the targeted areas. Small portions of the East Side, West Side and West End neighborhoods are included.
About 25 West End homes are included in a targeted area roughly bounded by I-35E, Grand, Smith and Goodrich avenues. Until a few years ago, most of those homes were rental units owned by the same family. The federation tried to buy the houses, but didn't have the financial resources. The houses were sold off separately to new owners, but now many of them are vacant and have gone into foreclosure.
Twenty of the houses may have to come down, said federation executive director Ed Johnson. Acquisition and demolition could cost as much as $2 million. The federations long-term goal is to develop new market rate housing in their place.
"Some of these homes are complete dumps," said federation board member Dave Bredemus, "but we we also have some beautiful old houses. People will freak out if you are tearing down houses from the 1860s and 1870s.
However, Johnson said many of the houses maybe to far gone. "We have the best reputation bar none for saving old houses", he said of the federation. "When we say a house can not be saved , that's going to wake up the city."
The Saint Paul Housing and Redevelopment Authority approved the Invest St. Paul work plan in August. It also approved the sale of $25 million in bonds to start the program. The bonds are supported by the city's Neighborhood Sales Tax Revitalization program. The total cost of Invest St. Paul over the next three years has been estimated at $67 million.
I intend to notify the Fort Road Federation of this topic. I appreciate their concerns, only their request of relocation money for displaced citizens will fall on deaf ears.
A note to the FEDERATION, this mayor and city council don't give a damn if citizens are displaced. They are cold heartless people!
Bob, Bob, Bob, I hate to tell you this but both Dave Thune and I are past presidents of the Federation. If they are concerned about relocation expenses for any of the residents in the neighborhood so is their council member.
I think I have said this about 6,000 times now, find me one house in Ward 2 that the City demo'ed where someone wanted an extension (that wasn't a meth lab - he does worry that they could blow up) that Thune didn't give an extension to.
It is no surprise at all that the Federation is going to resist demolission and be looking for rehab and relocation monies instead. When I was the president we did the rehab of a bunch of houses behind Mancinni's and cleaned that area up. NO demo's.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Hi Chuck
Bill Dahn here.
I seen your post here, and you have the incite over most of us about how the city is run.
I see a lot of post that people make it look like I did them.
I really am grateful for you trying to help get my home repaired in 1996, in your own comment that you were trying to get RAP's people to help me and the city attorneys office told people not to assist me at all.
But Leslie Davis isn't done with Ramsey Action Program and the other corruption that in mainly flowing through the Democratic Party in Minnesota.
Leslie is a better advocate then I and most people, he has the Leslie Davis Show that is showing throughout the state on cable.
I thank people in this city, county, and state for neglecting my right to safe environment in living with substandard work from the contractor from RAP.
I am not the person that dogs you all the time on the blog, you have many people that must like picking on you and laughing when you think its coming from me.
Have a nice evening.
Bill Dahn
http://www.billdahn.blogspot.com
-------Bill Dahn's The Man--------
Bill, I was told not to talk to you because there was or was an effort to get a restraining order on you because you were threatening City staff.
It wasn't that people didn't want to help you, it is that there is often only so much help that the government can do when there are consumer complaints.
RAP is a private nonprofit. You weren't pleased with their work. Several levels of the government tried to get them to take actions to please you. You and they weren't able to agree on what that should be. Your ultimate course of action would have been the courts.
The City, nor the county, nor the state, nor the feds nor any other level of government can play judge and jurry.
Only a judge and jurry can do that.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
Chuck maybe they could include your dump for tear down.
Your neighbor
Chuck, I didn't see Dave's name any where in the article.
This proposal by the federation is a common sense approach to assuring civil rights aren't violated.
It has been proven here time and again that the previous administration and this one isn't really concerned about the civil rights of low income people. Many citizens rights have been violated over housing issues.
As Dave's close friend are you saying Dave supports the federations proposal?
Bob, Dave is out of town this week but I got $100 to your favorite charity if Thune doesn't support the Federation 100% on this.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
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RAZING HOMES: Millions of State & Federal Monies at risk
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Chairman Cox was born October 16, 1952, in St. Paul, Minnesota. He and his wife Rebecca have three children.
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Thank You Nancy Lazaryan
People that think they are better then others is why this earth is in terminal.
Bill Dahn
This is just the beginning. Once they tear down the houses, they can make non-profit facilities to help make a final solution to the problem of people they have displaced.
These facilities, run by loyal non-profit operators, would have barbed wire to protect the guests, and have snappy inspiriational signs such as "Arbeit Macht Frei".
Bob,
I grew up in this area by Jefferson School, now Open School. I went to St. Stan's and Fr. Clay was wonderful. I even got married at St. Stan's.
It would be a very sad thing if these houses were torn down. The mayor has this crazy idea of tearing down these homes when they have a lot of history in them.
Where Jefferson School (Open School) now stands, this was the site where Grant Construction once stood. They even had a quarry on this site. The school district purchased this property and put up the school.
The mayor is wrong by wanting to tear down these homes. They should be saved as they represent a very important part of the history in St. Paul.
Goodrich and Western
Then we sould just tear down houses in Cherokee Park area and start with Mayor Chris Coleman, then go and tear down that "sack" of Dave Thune's.
Who said?
What Goes Around >> Comes Around !
Is that close enough to
"Pay Back Are Hell" ?
Jesse is coming out with a new book in April 2008. will it be
"new lies" or
same-o same-o ?
Bill Dahn
http://www.billdahn.com
http://www.billdahn.blogspot.com
Whats so funny is these LIBS go crazy if you cut a tree down but don't even bat an eye at a house that gets the wrecking ball.Come on all you LIBS a house is made of wood.Maybe its a payback to the house for using a destroyed trees wood for building purposes.
Mayor Chris Coleman's ambitious program to revitalize the city's most troubled neighborhoods.
Does anyone know about Chris Coleman's mother in law received relocation money while Chris was a St.Paul City Councilman.
Who knows how much she received?
When Lowry Ave. revitalize, the people in apartment received up to $25,000 for relocating.
Hey
This is St.Paul and they will pinch the one penny they might give some of those people to relocate until it turn green.
Then they will say you have to pay interest and or taxes on the money you get.
They do as they dam will please.
Doesn't anyone but Bill Dahn post here any longer?
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This place has turned into a joke.
A bad joke.
When you get rid of the insulation man I'll be back!!
Even the property rights guys want some distance from Dahn.
Bill why don't you go down to NHPI and bug them alittle.
How ya like it here all by yourself Billy boy? You see, people not only don't give a shit about you or your cause, they're willing to walk away from a legitimate cause just to get away from you........and now SHaron too!!
Congatulations both of you, now you have 2 blogs that no one goes to any longer. You should be proud of yourselves.
Now we can see that you and some of the people in this city only care about your cause and no one else counts.
That is a shame that some of you are more like Chris Coleman and Dave Thune, this is showing the people of St.Paul that you out there are as bad as the rats that run this country.
You have rights, I have the same rights as YOU and the "property rights people".
Would you like me to dog you, like you do to me?
If so, "let go for it".
I have nothing to lose, and to be dogged by you people that think your shit don't stink, will be a good battle.
So contact me and lets talk about it.
Bill Dahn
http://www.billdahn.com
http://www.billdahn.blogspot.com
9:40, most people have the mental capacity to ignore the retard.
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Conspiracy Against Rights,
18 U.S.C. § 241. Section 241 of Title 18 is the civil rights conspiracy statute. Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree together to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the Unites States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same). Unlike most conspiracy statutes, Section 241 does not require that one of the conspirators commit an overt act prior to the conspiracy becoming a crime. The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.
Criminal Interference with Right to Fair Housing,
42 U.S.C. § 3631. Section 3631 of Title 42 makes it unlawful for an individual to use force or threaten to use force to injure, intimidate, or interfere with, or attempt to injure, intimidate, or interfere with, any person's housing rights because of that person's race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin. Among those housing rights enumerated in the statute are: 1) the sale, purchase, or renting of a dwelling, 2) the occupation of dwelling, 3) the financing of a dwelling, 4) contracting or negotiating for any of the rights enumerated above, and 5) applying for or participating in any service, organizations, or facility relating to the sale or rental of dwellings.
This statute also makes it unlawful to use force or threaten to use force to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person who is assisting an individual or class of persons in the exercise of their housing rights. The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.
Hopefulluy Lisa Martin and the others she is covering up for will be sitting in prison soon. What do you think Chuck?......jail or not?
Lisa Martin's name keeps coming again and again. Sounds like a RICO babe for sure. She'll look good in stripes.
Who is this Lisa Martin people are
speaking about?
She's the one who started it all with one of the landlords. She picked the wrong boy to pick on!
I wonder if they would do it all over again knowing what they know now?
Hi,
Did I ever tell you about my house and the insulation problem?
If I have not told you, you see I had my house insulated by the city for free. The stuff they used was pink and gave off gaded. I got sick. The fumes went to my head. The rest is history.
I guess I can assume Dave doesn't support relocation $....
Chuck never answered my question.
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