Acquitted in high-profile 1981 Maplewood death, man wants case expunged
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Foster got his money through running drugs for Plukie Duke. Gray is making a killing on Foster's ill-gotten drug money.
If you don't believe me just watch the Dateline NBC program on it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24796236/page/6/
The Pioneer Press has also written about former St. Paul Police Chief Bill Finney's involvement in protecting his good friend Aaron Foster.
Can we say dirty cops, protecting dirty drug runners. Nice real nice.
If you put the name Aaron Foster in the Title or Subject Matter it goes faster on search engines.
http://www.justiceforbarbara.com/Suppressed_Evidence.html
So Eric Mitchell, you defended this creep on SPIF what do you have to say now?
Who did I defend and what did I say?
I don't think I ever defended Foster and never proclaimed him to be innocent.
You got proof or am I arguing with yet another anonymous coward who talks without know what they're saying?
Eric
Foster got his money through running drugs for Plukie Duke. Gray is making a killing on Foster's ill-gotten drug money.
If you don't believe me just watch the Dateline NBC program on it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24796236/page/6/
WHERE IN THE VIDEO DOES IT SAY THIS?
9:06 AM
Here you go right from the DATELINE NBC program:
May 23, 2008 transcript:
That would be Ralph "Plookie" Duke, "Plookie" from the old neighborhood, who became one of Minnesota's most notorious cocaine traffickers and is now serving two life sentences in federal prison.
Snyder: A lot of shootings, a lot of crime going on over here right now.
Producer: What are we doing now?
Snyder: Interview Plookie Duke's old girlfriend.
Plookie Duke's ex girlfriend, Doris, who did 14 years for her involvement in the operation, says she knew Aaron "Bubbie" Foster well.
Bill Snyder: Do you know Aaron Foster?
Doris Admon: Oh, he did things for Plookie.
Bill Snyder: Like what?
Doris Admon: Oh, he moved stuff for him, you know. Bringing drugs from California up to here, you know.
Bill Snyder: When did Aaron first become involved with Plookie?
Doris Admon: I think Aaron became involved with Plookie back in I think the early '80s, I think?
The federal agent who'd headed up the Plookie Duke case, Mike Carey, told Snyder he knew Foster as associate of Plookie's, but saw no reason to draw a bead on him.
Snyder: Did Aaron Foster's name come up in this investigation?
Carey: Aaron Foster's name came up on the wiretap.
According to investigator Snyder, he learned Aaron Foster's connection to Plookie Duke, a known drug dealer, was widely known.
Advertise | AdChoicesAdvertise | AdChoicesAdvertise | AdChoicesSnyder: That never made sense to me.
And if that was true, Barbara Winn's sister-in-law found it shocking that Bill Finney, now the police chief, hired Aaron Foster at the St. Paul police department.
Patti Bruce: You become the St. Paul police chief. And then you hire this guy to transport firearms. And then give him a job in the property room. And then arm with a gun.
That's right: Chief Finney authorized a gun for his friend Foster and access to a squad car, and put Foster in charge of a key part of any police department's operation.
Snyder: He was in the property room, where all the evidence, of all the cases, except crime lab evidence is brought down for storing.
In fact, Snyder remembered that when he was a cop for the St. Paul Police Department, he occasionally saw Foster.
Mike Taibbi: What did you think of him?
Bill Snyder: I didn't know him very well. I knew that he was Finney's friend. The rumor in the St. Paul police department was that he was untouchable. That if you get into an argument with him, you're going to lose because he'll take it right to Finney and Finney will back him up.
They didn't hide their close friendship, either. The chief gave Foster a medal once, for breaking up a fight, and the two were often seen together, on and off the job
Patti Bruce: Bill Finney knew that Aaron Foster was a suspect. He had absolutely no business being there. He was out of his jurisdiction.
Bill Snyder: That was extremely bizarre to me.
Mike Taibbi: Not illegal?
Snyder: No, not illegal.
In fact, Snyder says he looked for and couldn't find any evidence that Bill Finney had influenced the investigation of Aaron "Bubbie" Foster.
Bill Snyder: As a sergeant at the time, I can't see him having any weight. My personal opinion that he was down there to glean the facts of what happened. He wanted to learn what happened that night.
Still, at that autopsy, according to police reports, Finney made statements he saw with his own eyes six months before Barbara's death.
Finney told police that his friend Bubbie Foster had assaulted Barbara in the backseat of his car.
During the Winn death investigation Bill Finney attended the autopsy of Barbara Winn, Norm Green who was investigating the Winn Death for Maplewood police stated the following, "I've never seen another agency come in like that and view an autopsy," (St. Pioneer Press 09-26-2006).
Not only was this a conflict of interest, but was highly unethical, but there is more, Bill Finney also talked to the Ramsey County prosecutor, James Konen about the investigation, (St. Pioneer Press 09-26-2006).
On March 7, 1985, Aaron Foster was arrested after a disturbance at his home.
It seems Aaron Foster became upset, pointed a gun to Linda Foster's head threatening to kill her. Once again Bill Finney interceded for his friend and even went to the Ramsey County prosecutor, James Konen, again.
In a police report, the following was written, "Lt. Finney explained the situation to James Konen who allowed that Aaron could be released pending further investigation."(St. Paul police reports and St. Paul Pioneer Press 9-26-2006).
Ant the point is? Who really gives a damn?
Anonymous said...
Ant the point is? Who really gives a damn?
12:17 AM
Most reasonable people give a damn! That's who!
Next this crooked democrat will run for mayor of his town, "if" its true about drug and Aaron Foster he live above St.Paul Harley Davison Motorcycle Shop.
"What we've got here is (a) failure to communicate"
I'm pretty sure that Sheriff Fletcher would have found something, he's not exactly known to be soft on his opponents. Not sure why Finney is again being attacked like he murdered Barbara when there is no evidence that he did anything on this case to protect Foster.
Finney has had some questionable relationships but, where's the proof of wrong doing. Clinton had Roger, Jimmy Carter had Billy, George Bush had- well had himself. Lots of high profile people have/had associates that don't rise up to the public opinion bar.
Fletcher's best friend and one of his hand-picked deputies is in federal prison. He also was given a gun and car by the Sheriff.
Barbara's investigation was botched by the County Attorney in the beginning and Aaron Foster got away with murder. That's the story.
Eric
Eric
People that proclaim to be DFL'ers are always getting away with murder or...?
Lots of high profile people have/had associates that don't rise up to the public opinion bar.
That's an asinine statement, Eric.
Finny was the Chief of Police. He not only *associated* with the scumbag, he armed him and hired him.
Common sense dictates he screwed up, big time...which of course makes him a prime Democrat candidate.
If he gets caught in flagrante delicto with a thirteen year old boy, he's a shoe-in for SP mayor...or at least a seat on the School board.
Eric 11:03 AM,
You know Finney's involvement in getting Foster off the murder charges.
The Pioneer Press reported this all back in 2006. Finney went to the Ramsey County Attorney three times and got Foster off the hook. Three times mind you and he then sold him numerous handguns and even gave him a permit to carry when at the same time he denied law abiding citizens these same permits.
In 1981 Finney put his nose into the investigation even when it was a Maplewood case. This is well documented in MPD police reports and also article in the Pioneer Press.
When Foster assaulted his wife, Linda Foster, when Foster put that gun Finney sold him up to Linda's head and threatened to blow her brains out, Finney went to the Ramsey County Attorney as Lt. William Finney and got him off. This was documented in SPPD police reports and the Pioneer Press 2006). Linda Foster even went to Finney for help and Finney just brushed her off.
Finney protected his drug running friends with "Get Out Of Jail Free" letters (Pioneer Press, 2006).
Eric Finney was DIRTY, he protected his drug running buddies like Duke, Clark, Pluff and Foster at all costs, all the while he was on the St. Paul School Board.
Look at how many African American children are in jail today or their lives have been ruined because of Finney and Foster’s drug running? What really gets me is how you, as an African American can support this slime. Finney is slime and with your constant defense of him is really telling as to the leadership of the African American Community. Protecting a DFLer at all cost, but at what cost Eric, children strung out on the drugs Foster, Duke, Pluff (Brennan) and Clark were selling. That my friend is what you supported in your endless defense of Bill Finney, the most corrupt police chief in the history of the St. Paul Police Department.
Eric you make me sick.
Eric makes everyone sick. The only spin he has is the DFL party song and the hell with anyone's rights. I was apalled that he has stuck up for the city and their criminal actions in the landlord lawsuits but this takes him to a whole new level.
When Foster assaulted his wife, Linda Foster, when Foster put that gun Finney sold him up to Linda's head and threatened to blow her brains out,
The name is Lisa not Linda
Lisa works for Saint Paul DSI.
"In 1981 Finney put his nose into the investigation even when it was a Maplewood case. This is well documented in MPD police reports and also article in the Pioneer Press."
That's what you say but Bill Synder said this after his investigation IN 2006:
In fact, Snyder says he looked for and couldn't find any evidence that Bill Finney had influenced the investigation of Aaron "Bubbie" Foster.
Bill Snyder: As a sergeant at the time, I can't see him having any weight. My personal opinion that he was down there to glean the facts of what happened. He wanted to learn what happened that night.
So who do I believe, some unnamed coward (you) or the guy who Finney let go and Fletcher hired that investigated this case (Snyder)?
You also said that:
Eric Finney was DIRTY, he protected his drug running buddies like Duke, Clark, Pluff and Foster at all costs, all the while he was on the St. Paul School Board
Foster is the only one mentioned that Finney protected. In this murder case, they couldn't find anything to connect to Finney as doing wrong. If there was anything, Fletcher would have found it and used it.
You've done what Fletcher has done and that's a diservice to the family. Its clear that the county attorney dropped the ball on this and no one will say it but I'd bet everything it had to do with a black man accused of murdering a black woman who had no political or money connections. They saw no need to be thorough. That's where this case should have led to, then getting Foster his just desserts. But, some of you have such a hard-on for Finney that you're blinded by everything else.
Doesn't matter if i like the man or not, the facts did not bore out that he tampered with evidence or influenced the case as a sgt on the SPPD.
You also said:
What really gets me is how you, as an African American can support this slime. Finney is slime and with your constant defense of him is really telling as to the leadership of the African American Community.
Slime is your definition. Community leader and stand out is the definition the African American Community has given him and you are in no position to tell us or them who they should look at as their leaders.
You have put yourself in position with a lot of other whites who have tried to take down credible black leaders because of their own racism. Why? Throwing out accusation that are not true or have been proven otherwise. Why should they listen to you about Finney?
You don't even have enough character to write you name on a blog that supporters your view 99%.
Eric
Actually, DFL has nothing to do with this.
In hundreds of posts you'll never find me defending someone just because they are DFL, you'll find me putting facts behind any pushback on accusations.
What we do see, is some of you attacking them and me just because we're DFLers.
Its as if Republicans are not involved in anything.
Anyway, all of this DFL noise is nothing but a distraction from the story. Aaron Foster, who beat the rap for murder due to incompetence on the prosecutions behalf, is seek to have this case closed off from his record during a general search.
The question is, should he get one? I mean, regardless of what I believe, he was found not to be guilty of murder.
Eric
It is a fact the DFL has over many years built a bureaucracy within local government. There is a very small number of influential folks within this bureaucracy that have a questionable character and they use their status to achieve objectives that are appalling to many of us.
As seen in the Maplewood police report from Lisa Foster Aaron's ex wife,(AKA Lisa Martin DSI Inspector city of Saint Paul)Lisa acknowledges the retaliation she could get from Finney and other city employees.
There has been stories over the years that point to the favoritism handed out to insiders of the DFL by this DFL bureaucracy.
That being said, most of the folks within the DFL bureaucracy are good people with good intentions.
Does one, two, or 3 bad apples spoil the whole bunch? I don't think so, but it doesn't look good for the rest of the DFL when these bad apples aren't ostracized.
There is many politicians who affiliate their name with Finney for example, Congress woman Betty McCollum. These politicians should be pressured by their constituents to separate themselves from folks like Finney.
If it wasn't for the ignorance of the voters these corrupt influential DFL bureaucrats would be held accountable and those like Betty McCullom wouldn't want their names attached to these people.
Bob,
Until Finney ran for Sheriff, we were not sure if he was a DFLer or not. Even as a DFL candidate, his campaign was managed by a Republican who was an elected official and candidate for higher office.
Most people don't understand the world of police work. I don't. The more cops I get to know the more I realize that its a world that is not easy to label. Complex, high pressure, corrupt, and camaraderie are all daily occurrences. Even through that race as I remained a volunteer campaign worker for Finney (for a few months), I was still close enough to the Federation President who help navigate the endorsement for Fletcher.
Today, we look at this last term of Fletcher and see that its been a disaster for both him, the office and some of his close associates which are currently in federal prison and others under indictment or investigation.
However, both of them have strong followings an loyal support from good cops. Arguing Finney v Fletcher is like playing tic tac toe, its the same thing over and over and nobody wins. Unless Fletcher goes to jail after one of these pending investigations.
The whole Democrat Republican thing is not personality based, its party based. Bush had six of his eight years with one party rule in DC. How many of them went to jail? How many were charged with crimes? How many were indicted? One clue, way more than Reagan had under Iran Contra.
Eric
Eric, Flethcher is no longer sheriff because of the company he kept.
"Does one, two, or 3 bad apples spoil the whole bunch? I don't think so, but it doesn't look good for the rest of the DFL when these bad apples aren't ostracized."
You are wrong Bob. A couple bad apples do spoil the whole bunch because the whole bunch sticks up for the bad apples. Eric siding with the city and against the landlords is just one example. The whole damn bunch of them are dirtballs.
Eric,
The "Republican" who ran Finney's campaign was Sheldon Anderson, the owner of Capital Security who is a close friend of Finney, Foster and Pluff (Brennan), all drug runners in St. Paul.
Anderson was no Republican, in name only. Anderson was kicked out of the Republican Party for being dirty. Anderson lost his job as mayor and he lost his house race. The Minnesota Republican Party will not talk to Anderson, as he is damaged goods.
Anderson, Finney, Foster and Pluff(Brennen)are all drug runners?
When did this happen?
Foster ran drugs for Duke.
Pluff (Brennan) was convicted of major drug running along with his sister Cindy. Ken Pluff was a cop in White Bear Township who misused his position as a cop to protect his family drug running business.
Finney hired both Pluff (Brennan) and Foster to work at SPPD and was also good friends with other drug runners in St. Paul. Foster worked in the police property room where the evidence to his murder trial was kept. Ken Pluff (Brennan) was hired through Capital Security to guard the police impound lot.
This is interesting on Ken Pluff and family. A Finney and Foster friend:
http://www.citypages.com/1997-11-05/news/welcome-to-pine-county/
In my opinion, Eric and Chuck only like court opinions when those opinions support what they agree with.
Proverb. The Bible: Matthew 26:52 :
“He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.”
Here is St.Paul's Proverbs
“He who lives by drugs will die by drugs.”
He who lives by the gun, dies by the gun.
Hope to see some of these people in "Heaven".
More Bribes
Where is the justice, or what is the price.
Is there any one out there that knows anything about the Judge in this case?
Post it "NOW" and lets not have a O J Trial...
"expunged" O J... Sure!
Listen, like it or not, he was not convicted of murder. Its dirty, underhanded, anti-constitutional to make him 'officially' keep the murderer label in the legal world.
The law is the law. I don't know him, like him or believe his story but, once this goes to the courts on this question, its not about him. Its about how we apply the law and has to be for people who are likable as well as unlikable.
If I was a judge, you'd expect and deserve the same interpretation of the law whether I was sentencing Chuck or Frank Steinhauser. Doesn't matter what I or the public thinks of either, if they failed to present their case then, its illegal to "back door" someone.
Being smarter than most of you on here, I wouldn't worry about the expungement. I then be sure that he was led over into civil court where we can surely get him for wrongful death.
This case was fumbled and handled correctly from the beginning and believe its because of the race and social status of the victim.
You're showing the same short-sightedness that you've demonstrated in the phony landlord suits. I hope Barbara's family do not rely on advice from here.
Eric
So Eric is all concerned about the constitution except when it comes to white landlords, then it is a whole different game.
white 'slumlords' who provide less than humane conditions for people to live in while stealing money from the government (me) by lying about the housing they provide.
Eric
Eric,
I sure hope you sleep good at night. You are one of the most two faced individuals I have ever met.
Sleeping quite well.
You got any proof of me being two faced on anything? Nope.
You're a hypocritical anonymous coward. You take cheap shots from the cover of being anonymous and think that you're in any position to judge me.
The reason anybody can see I've been consistent on my position is because I sign everything I post here. Which makes me a much better man than you. You words mean nothing and that's twice the quality of the meaning of your character.
Eric
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