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Sorry to hear that Thune was victimized.But, so were all the bars and resteraunts that closed down because of the smoking ban.
What goes around comes around ; )
I knew this story would be here.
The hardware store probably just took it back when Bucky's check bounced.
But the money quote has to be this: "Take away a man's power tools and you've crossed a line."
Heh. heh. heh.
If you've ever seen Bucky's busted down house and junk car collection, you know the only way that fool ever used a tool is as a boat anchor.
I wonder if he has those water stained drapes replaced yet?
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Hmmmm....
Haven't talked to Dave yet... but I am guessing the Mrs is not too pleased....
11:22 can you name me one, just one bar that was "closed down" because of the smoking ban in Saint Paul?
Restaurant sales actually went up with the smoking ban. Those numbers come from gross sales reported by the bars and restaurants in Saint Paul. So, its just the facts...
So, with the exception of the chain smoking drunks that have a hard time getting off of their bar stool to make it outside to puff, just about everyone agrees that bars and restaurants have benefited from being smoke free.
I will tell you a true story.
After they passed the smoking ban and before the law went into effect a survey was done to determine if the public would vote down a smoking ban.
So, the first question to likely voters in the City was; have you been to a bar or restaurant in the past 6 months? If yes they went on to the ban question; if no they asked them; is there any reason why you haven't been to a bar or restaurant? Better than 50% of those called had not been to a bar or restaurant and the number 1 reason, better than 50% of the people didn't go to bars or restaurants..... BECAUSE THEY STINK, THEY SMELL LIKE ASH TRAYS, I CAN'T BREATH IN THERE.
There was no effort to overthrow the ban once the pro-smoking folks realized that half the voters couldn't go to restaurants because of the smoke.
Cigarettes were killing the food and beverage industry by leaving a smaller and smaller customer base that would bother to go to their places. The problem is that the owners have a hard time dealing with conflict and taking the lead at telling the guy who is in the bar spending money that he can't smoke. The change had to be by regulation.
And, remember there is no right to sell liquor. It is a regulated drug. The government gives you the license to sell a product whose sale is controlled. The sale of liquor has been regulated by every country on the planet for a couple of thousand years. "Public houses and taverns" were the first things regulated in this country.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
So is the City Attorney "taking" the Case? or will Thune have to go Pro Se.
Or is this another Ponzi Scheme to break the Insurance Co.
City St.Paul is Self Insured with Risk Managment via www.lmc.org
http://knowyourcourts.com/Archives/Pro_Se_Illusion/Pro_Se_Illusion.htm
Thune probably stole his own Blower?
Dave the "tipesh" Buffoon works in city government and can't even keep his eye on his "own" things, why should he care in the least if any thing of any bodies else or their tax dollars are wasted or stolen.
Soon we will see the Jewish Community up in arms about their family member in the Jewish Sholom Nursing Home in St.Paul that was built on a rock bed with gasoline pockets underground that will cause health problems for the residents there.
They just might run Thune out of town after they tarred and feathered Him for being a shmok!
Shmock Yiddish obscene expression for penis, derisive term for a man. use to describe a self-made fool, and he is a
dick head Urban Dictionary: dick head
Dave is Your friend indeed...
More trouble around Bars because of this NO Smoking Ban.
City Council Members are the blame for the disturbance at Bars, government control has gone to far in our lives.
Bill Dahn
Chuck, while some national studies have reported to show that smoking bans have not had a signifigant impact either way, St.Paul has had at least a few bars close their doors because of it. Any closing of any buisness that is attributed to the hypocritical claims that those patrons in general will be aided by the bans is nonsence.
I am a non smoker and if I were to drop in to a bar for a cold one and detrmined that the joint was more than I could stand as far as smoke,I would simply leave to another. I have the capacity to make this choice without the assistance of a smoking ban.
How hypocritical that the State of Minnesota had invested in tobacco stocks yet Dump the Hump- Skippy Humphrey and his band of lawyers cashed in on the tobacco settlement.
Whether or not the smoking bans attributed to customer improved satisfaction or improved health of smokers surely cannot be shown to have proved the point of Government for enacting the bans.
Some studies out there seem to have determined that bans had no impact either way except that if any bar or resteraunt suffered, that means there was indeed a negative economic impact.
Jeff Matiatos
We see Susan Kimberly aka George SYLVESTER and Dave Thune go back a long ways together hanging it out in the men's room at city hall, is Dave planing a sex change like George SYLVESTER. ... aka Susan Kimberly ... had?
If so He can change his name from Dave Thune to Fat Ass !
Sounds Good.
Bill Dahn
Thune's Shmock
Chuck said... better than 50% of the people didn't go to bars or restaurants..... BECAUSE THEY STINK, THEY SMELL LIKE ASH TRAYS, I CAN'T BREATH IN THERE.
How about the formaldehyde insulation they put in 200,000 homes in Minnesota, and how many people lived in those homes.
Chuck, You and the other shmock Dave Thune could care less about the health of us.
Money is the only thing Dave and you care about, not the people..
Last report was that Minnesota had 281 million in tobacco stocks.
Swiftee said Answer:... One whose garage is already so full of broken down cars, junk and garbage there is no room for anything else.
Bill here, the Political Thorn In Thune's ass.
People complaining about Thune's cars at A democracy and his house and yard, anyone else would have had the "SS" - "Code Enforcement" knocking at the door with papers to "Condemn" the property and then owners or landlords have to kiss asses of Kathy Lantry and then the Fat Ass of Dave Thune just to try to save the home or rental properties.
Dave it's time to face the fact, you are "No GOD"!
On or about 12-15-1998
Dean Barkley received the letter from the people at RAP saying that there was sewer gases flowing though my furnace that RAP's Contractor's installed and cut the beam under the Bathroom floor and caused the sewer gas coming into the bad furnace they installed, just like the shitty 1.51 PPM formaldehyde soaked insulation that causes Cancer.
My home should have been condemned until the sewer gas problem was fixed.
Frank, what did it take to condemn one of your places?
Not Much I'm Sure, with Thune and Lantry on the city council and he is a poor excuses for a "human"!
I plan to move back to St.Paul so I can run for ward 2, I was let out of my lease to run against YOU last time by the same landlords that are suing St.Paul. thank you DADDER'S Properties and you still have my damage deposit plus interest.
You let me out of the lease and I had Cinnamon and Bob Johnson from A Democracy come and cleaned my carpet and the apartment was in better condition then the day I moved in.
Remember "Sue" who worked for you?
She said you let me out of the lease so I could run against Thune.
Bill Dahn
PO Box 7417
St.Paul,MN 55107
What studies Jeff?
What bars closed solely because of the smoking ban?
Jeff
You don't have to do polling to tell, their sales tax receipts tell it all. Saint Paul bars and restaurants made more money after the smoking ban than before.
That is just a fact.
And, now please give me the names of those bars that closed down because of the smoking ban.
I know of two bars that were financial disasters that were in legal trouble before the ban that closed either right after the ban was announced or right after it started and claimed the ban as the reason but if you pick either of those two, I'll laugh at you.
So, again, name the bars that closed because of the smoking ban.
It didn't happen here and it hasn't happened anywhere else. Most people have figured that out.
As to the choice to not go, that was exactly what was occuring 50% of the adult population wasn't bothering to go to bars or restaurants.
Bars are licensed facilities. No peron in this country has a right to own one. The government sets the rules of how they will operate in the publics interest. The smoke was in effect not allowing the public to access the licensed facility.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
I am sure Chuck got his stats from well to do pubs and restraunts on the corner of Kellogg and 7th street and up the street this way or that way.
Those places were able to adapt very well and have smoking areas and had solid financial standing to make the upgrades.
I am sure part of this scheme was to not only get building permit fees and construction contracts for smoking areas,fines for non compliance, but like the DSI program to rid the city of unwanted buildings, this ban effectivley caused some undesired bars that the city considers eye sores, to close for good.
The smoking ban was less about public health than it is about
trying to shield the Governments who's double standard is to collect billions from tobacco sales and lawsuits against tobacco and profit from tobacco stocks..
The true blame rightly belongs against the Government and FDA for enabling it's citizens to be damaged physically with known cancer causing drugs in smokes, especially Minnesota that has at least 281 million in reported tobacco stocks.
I will get you the names of the bar soon.
Jeff Matiatos
Jeffy, are you making shit up again? So close to the celebration of the Lord's birth. You're making angels cry.
10:15 p.m.
I am not religious so I guess you can take your comment and shove it.
You ask if I am making this up ? I think not, so you might as well read what I have to say and believe it because by the looks of it, you really don't know do you ?
Jeff Matiatos
I suppose 10:15 p.m. actually believes there is a lord ? Isn't christmas about going to the department store to buy gifts to stimulate the economy.
It's time you folks get off this Santa Claus shit and Easter bunny garbage.
Wake up to the real world . Go celebrate the lord by drowning your head in a bucket of water and baptise yourself to your grave.
We all know that part of Chucky boy's job is to sell his mouth to aid and assist the city as well as for his own personal gain . Chucky boy and Eric do not like what jeff says because logic and reputation of the city alone supports what jeff says in his 10:10 p.m. post.
10:30 PM I am not sure what you are trying to say.
This is the most anti-christian post I have seen in a long while.
As a former DFLer, I know the hate the DFL progressives show towards christians. I live in Thunes ward, I have seen his "progressives" in action. Anti-christian values are the baseline for their thinking and it appears like you are one of them.
No, I am not a Republican, I am a voter who is tired of all of the DFL crap in St. Paul
8:00 am, I hear you!
8:00 a.m. we all have a right and conscience to believe what we want to believe. Religion is no different and the fact that you express your disliking for those with seemingly anti-christian beliefs is also your right to express. You don't have to have a party affiliation to do this. Your probably the poster at 10:15 p.m. and your defending your god. Knock yourself out.
There is no evidence- that I could find- about an adverse effect of the smoking ban. Mostly because without smoking, a whole new crowd begin coming in to the bars and especially the neighborhood dives like Vogels and Governors here on Arcade.
There are studies that show that the smoking ban has not cost jobs at all- which was the big argument.
Banning smoking in bars and restaurants in the Twin Cities did not appear to have a negative effect on the businesses, researchers found.
"In fact, after clean indoor air policies went into effect in Minneapolis and St. Paul, there was a significant 3% to 4% increase in restaurant employment in both cities (P<0.05), according to Elizabeth Klein, PhD, MPH, of Ohio State University College of Public Health in Columbus, and colleagues.
There was also a significant 5% to 6% increase in bar employment in Minneapolis (P<0.05), but no increase -- or decrease -- in St. Paul, the researchers reported in the July/August issue of the Journal of Public Health Management and Practice."
So that's from just a few months ago after several years of the ban.
Eric
This study confirms smoking bans do have an adverse effect on business.
Selective bias's in the studies on smoking bans were all to common so hold on to your hat Eric.
If even one bar closed due to the negative affets of the ban, it's proof enough that smoking bans harm buisness even if it does not result in closure.
I found something at the link at 11:35am about the study:
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*This is a revised version of a paper presented at the Western Economic Association International annual meeting in San Diego, CA, July 2, 1998, and is based in part on a study conducted for Philip Morris Management Corp. We thank William Boyes, Frank Chaloupka, Keith Womer and three anonymous referees for their helpful comments.
Dunham: Manager of Fiscal Issues, Philip Morris
Management Corp. Marlow: Professor, Department of Economics, California
Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo, CA,
Fax 917-663-5379, Email john.dunham@pmmc.com
Eric
I saw that too Eric....
Hmmmm Phillip Morris TOBBACCO did a study 12 years ago before most cities and states did smoking bans and it says that it is bad for business!!!!
OMG - I guess we better give up on giving them actual data from tax collections that shows that business went UP after smoking in the bars ended and believe big tobbacco.
JMONTOMEPPOF
Chuck Repke
saw that too Eric....
Hmmmm Phillip Morris TOBBACCO did a study 12 years ago before most cities and states did smoking bans and it says that it is bad for business!!!!
JMONTOMEPPOF Chuck Repke 11:45 PM
Chuck and Eric
Lets put a ban on "boss",
Good people? go down the drain from it, Mark Dayton is a recovering alcoholic but if there was no boss he would never messed his life up.
I think I will start a ban on boss like the 1930's
joe blow
Hey "Joe Blow"
Its called Booze.
Was Thune out boozing with his friends when his snow blower just walked away.
It like how they ran St.Paul into the ground with their one sided politics.
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