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Thursday, September 04, 2008

Saint Paul Fair Housing Lawsuits Update/ part 6, DAWKINS’ KNEW THAT OVER-ZEALOUS ENFORCEMENT WOULD LEAD TO WHOLESALE ABANDONMENT OF PROPERTIES IN THE

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Blogger Bob said...

Dawkins, as Director of Code Enforcement, and former state representative from the inner city who focused on housing related legislation at the State Capitol from 1987 to 2002, acknowledged that “in most cities a balance has to be struck between aggressive enforcement to preserve livability and over-zealous enforcement potentially leading to wholesale abandonment of properties or the inner-city.” Ex. 108 to 3rd Engel Aff., STP 0658.
Dawkins studied the relationship between aggressive code enforcement and resulting abandonment of inner city properties: “Whether it was part of the Kitchen Cabinet discussions or the city council discussions, I don't remember. But I used the example of Baltimore where the aggressive enforcement had tipped the scale so that there was a start of abandonment of properties more than the city had hoped for in Baltimore. And I wanted to make sure everyone understood that using whatever levers or rules or policies the city has, that we need to make sure that we didn't hit a tipping point. … All I know is that I read a study that was in a journal about stepped up code enforcement in Baltimore and that it had tipped the scales so
Case 0:05-cv-00461-JNE-SRN Document 237 Filed 08/25/2008 Page 42 of 78
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that there was more abandonment of properties than the city had thought or wanted to have happen.” Dawkins depo. pp. 159-60.
POLICY ADOPTED FOR “PROBLEM PROPERTIES”:

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Dawkins knew abandonment would happen and they did it anyway.Well Repke it looks like abandonment has happened.



Tim Ciani

7:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tim

It shows that the City was aware of the potential, concerned about the issue and constantly took efforts to mediate it.

That is why there were extentions after extentions, year after year to get work done.

Only the worst of the worst would be demo'ed.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

9:29 AM  
Anonymous Jeff Matiatos said...

With all the mold problems in PHA chuck, and a host of other serious PHA housing violations, name me one instance where a PHA property was toredown ?





Jeff Matiatos

9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tim

It shows that the City was aware of the potential, concerned about the issue and constantly took efforts to mediate it.

That is why there were extentions after extentions, year after year to get work done.

Only the worst of the worst would be demo'ed.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

9:29 AM




Chuck you talk about how they mediated it and gave extensions-could you point me in a direction so I can see your evidence because I haven't seen it.Talk is cheap Chuck and the ricomen have evidence after eveidence and all you have is talk.


Chuck its also funny that you were worried about the emails but went to bat for the city and showed no fear.Could the case be that you're scared as all hell now and thats why you come here to ease your worries.Chuck we all know you know that the money train to you will be shut off when and if the city loses.



Tim Ciani

11:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This sure is a funny twist of events. Ricomen turning into Fair Housing men right before our eyes. Rico claims that Chuck says were bogus now being legitinate when the evidence shifts to Fair Housing and now it's the Fair Housing that's the bogus claim even though all the evidence I've read about here points directly to it, and Repke spinnng like a top all the way through it. Do you even know what you're talking about any more Chuck? I don't remember what they all are, but I remember from reading here that there were a ton of different claims against the city in this lawusit. It's never been about just Rico or just any other one thing.....it's about ALL of the claims. I find it unbelieveable that some of those claims are not going to go to trial, and when they do the city is going to lose big time. Whatever the legal determination of what the city did Chuck.......IT WAS WRONG, and if they're dumb enough to go face a jury with the evidence I've read about here, they're going to get their lunch handed to them. In case you haven't noticed Chuck, juries don't like wrong doing by Government. It looks like St. Paul and it's leaders are going to learn that the hard way because there's going to be more of these lawsuits and after them there'll be more yet. I have an idea the city of St. Paul is going to be getting sued for a decade or more over their code enforcement actions. Is it worth it Chuck just because the city leaders want to have a crime control program that goes after innocent landlords verses the person with the behavior or crime problem? We shall see, someday the end to all this will come and then we can tally up the loses and successes. Personally, I think the city is going to come up on the short end.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:09 I strongly doubt that this case is going to be around much longer.

Everyone agrees that the origanal RICO charge is gone. They have no evidence of anything remotely resembling a RICO case.

And for the Fair Housing Case to stick you have to believe that the goal of the Federal Government in passing the act was to allow white's to exploit minorities and what the Fed's were trying to protect was minority people's right to live in substandard housing.

Sorry guys its over.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

5:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck why don't you get off your lazy ass and come to the trial on the 12th.I'm sure you have time cause your a total failure of a business man and i don't think the city is handing out any money right now due to the fact their in a holding pattern because of the suits.Another reason your pissed.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone agrees that the rico charges are gone? Who is agreeing Chuck? It hasn't even been to court yet! What the hell are you talking about?

10:31 PM  
Anonymous henry said...

Sorry to diappoint you Chuck and any other disbelievers, but you will soon see that the Rico claim is not gone.

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When everything looks bleaker for the city, the city will always have chuck to us as a 'character' reference.

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Henry, you can claim what ever you want to claim, but the City asked for it to be dismissed and the only part of the claim that these guys objected to is that Magner is somehow in a conspiracy with himself.

The RICO charge will be gone soon.

JMONTOMEPPOF

Chuck Repke

8:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck do you trust Magner?What do you know about him?How about Wally Nelson?

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stolen from;

http://www.stpaulrealestateblog.com/st_paul_real_estate/historic_homes/index.html


Screw Driver Showing
Close your eyes and imagine a red brick Victorian house, a good sized one with a turret. I can't post a picture of it, because it isn't one of my listings and is for sale.


The place needed a lot of work, and the work was under way when the owner stopped making his mortgage payment. Maybe the owner watched to many shows like "flip this house", who knows. The bank owns the place now and it is on the market. What a shame, banks can't sell real estate. The city of St. Paul stopped by the home and now it has four pages of code violations. Registered vacant homes are held to the highest standards when it comes to code compliance. Often the local rules make too expensive to rehabilitate a home.

I made an appointment to see the place. I got the usual showing instructions, and the combination for the lock box. I was also told to bring a Phillips screw driver.

Preparing for the worst I grabbed a cordless drill, and my husband handed me four bits, each a different size. I got to the property, and went to the front door. I get why they suggested brining a screw driver. There were two "L" brackets mounted to the front door and the porch ceiling, held in place with four screws. The city requires that these vacant homes be secured, often the back door is nailed shut but generally the front door is just locked.


Many of my readers have never seen me, so I'll just mention that I am not tall. I took the picture with my camera phone, and I think it shows how far out of my reach the screws are.

I never got into the house. I will go back, with a ladder, or a tall person. I would like to see it. The last owner thought enough of it to buy it and put on a bunch of new windows, and upgrade the electrical, plumbing and heating. The roof looks decent too.

The home is being sold for almost nothing but I suspect that it will cost a small fortune to get it up to code and livable. The amount of money that it would take is more than the value of the home. It is located in an area where home values are low. Many of the homes that are in foreclosure are in similar condition.

It won't be torn down, which is a good thing, but it will be vacant for a very long time. The bank that owns it can not be too serious about selling it or they would work out a better way to secure it. I love historic homes and it bothers me that this wonderful brick Victorian has gone into the system, a system that makes it almost impossible to buy and renovate such a home.

10:15 AM  

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